He still did it though. Despite constantly talking about how he hates doing it, he did it anyway. DC was clearly in a hoop. Maybe he was under pressure from Dana though.
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He still did it though. Despite constantly talking about how he hates doing it, he did it anyway. DC was clearly in a hoop. Maybe he was under pressure from Dana though.
Cruz is great. I miss Goldberg though. Anik is a bit meh. I love Rogan's enthusiasm but he is so biased towards certain fighters. His love for Rousey for example was nauseating.
Felt sorry for Goldie when RR was around being the once in a lifetime human being that she is. Must have smelt the rosy scent of her gash on rogans breath.
Yep, that was absolutely ridiculous and so fecking obvious. Just because he's had him on his show I bet.
Yeah maybe, I think Cerrone's probably the more exciting fighter, but listening to the commentary you'd never know Lawler's the one who's actually been a champion.
I'm a casual UFC fan so I don't watch it with the same intensity I do for Boxing but does anyone else think it's a bit tedious and over the top the way every single card I seem to watch multiple times the commentators seem to say "Greatest ____of all-time" about something. A fighter, a fight, this part of a fighters game, a round etc; it just seems like too much hyperbole. I enjoy the fights, but I feel they are always trying to sell you on something that's perhaps not there. Rogan seems guilty of it and obviously is way over the top (he said Rousey is a once in a lifetime talent FFS), but even the other dudes on Saturday's team matter of fact stating Mayweather is the best boxer ever. He most certainly is not and you'll never hear Showtime, HBO team make those type of comments even HBO who are biased and over the top.
I used to tune in and be like "Oh this guy must be badass because he's one of the best ever" and then realised they say this pretty much about every fight between top guys. I appreciate the enthusiasm but just find it a bit tedious and corny.
I used to tune in and be like "Oh this guy must be badass because he's one of the best ever" and then realised they say this pretty much about every fight between top guys. I appreciate the enthusiasm but just find it a bit tedious and corny.
It's a single company hosting the events so is quite different to boxing.
But then again you will hear similar stuff spouted in the U.K. About the premiership.
Ronda Rousey though was hugely important for women's MMA and for the sport in general and brought the sport into the mainstream. She deserves the plaudits
MMA is still a sport in its infancy. A lot of the time, they are right. Jones, Silva, GSP, Aldo etc are some of the greatest ever and their careers have only spanned the last 12 years, they are still fighting now and at the highest level.
Also there are many facets to MMA. So striking, boxing, muay thai, grappling, wrestling, judo, BJJ, guard, top game, bottom game and so on. So to the casual, "the best mauy thai in the 145 division" or "the best judoka to ever step inside the octagon" might sound like hyperbole but it could very well be true.
I think Rogan got ahead of himself with the Ronda Rousey comment, but he wasn't totally wrong. She was finishing other female fighters inside a round and often inside a minute, so in that sense she was special talent or, at the very least, far ahead of her peers. She got rushed at the start of one fight and ended it inside 15(?) seconds with a submission (armbar) which is actually fecking insane.
Just ignore Rogan. He judges people by his standard and what he sees. Everyone in the UFC are killers but against other killers the standards differ. Joe doesn't see it that way, every fighter could kick the average guys ass so everyone is brilliant. He doesn't take into account of the UFC talent aggregate.
Look at Cerrone, he chokes in the big fights and when the pressure is on but you'll never hear that when they're breaking down the fights. You'll get buzzwords about his fantastic all-round style and his hunger just to come forward. It's actually ridiculous
I mean in fairness the UFC is a business and it's completely different to Boxing in that regard.
They could probably expand their vocabulary when talking up fighters I agree but they're always going to talk them up. I agree with the above re Cerrone choking in big fights but that wouldn't really benefit them saying that! It'd be like United agreeing when people said Ronaldo used to disappear in big matches and having club ambassadors saying it before our games.
The UFC is meant to be the elite as well (and it is) so they do have a case for a lot of their athletes being the very top level.
They could probably expand their vocabulary when talking up fighters I agree but they're always going to talk them up. I agree with the above re Cerrone choking in big fights but that wouldn't really benefit them saying that! It'd be like United agreeing when people said Ronaldo used to disappear in big matches and having club ambassadors saying it before our games.
The UFC is meant to be the elite as well (and it is) so they do have a case for a lot of their athletes being the very top level.
I believe he stated that she could beat men at one point. This may or may not have been before he cried over her awesomeness.
Just a ridiculous human being.
Thats like wondering why Goldenboy never announced that Amir Khan had a glass jaw
Its not a recent phenomenon either. Belfort choked in big fights his whole career. If you want that sort of analysis, you'll need to look elsewhere.
Its probably worth pointing out that during the Pride and then the Affliction days, Rogan would talk about fighters outside of the organisation when comparing them to the UFC fighters. Particularly the likes of Fedor and Wanderlei.
Rogan had little issue in giving fighters plaudits where they felt they were deserved but like you said, the UFC has all the best talent.
I must say that the last card killed a lot of enthusiasm that I had for UFC. They're also straying to much to WWE showmanship for my liking.
Joes problem is his over enthusiasm in the moment. When he reviews after the fact he's far better.
In his podcast today he was solid in his support of Lawlers win. He gave Cowboy one round and supported the judges. He had a 10 minute hands up apology for the DC interview. He spoke at length in support of both Woodleys conundrum and seemed to come down on the supportive side of the fighter.
In the moment though he's the sensationalist. Cruz calls him on a lot and they're not as good a team as Goldberg but he's very much the 2nd mic, albeit with a louder voice. Not the principle analytical mic. American audiences seem to love him a whole lot more though.
I've been beating that drum for ages. Trouble is, they have created a formula where investing in the hype machine is tantamount to better PPV numbers, which will only make them do this more in the future.
Jones calling out Brock Lesnar at the end of what must have been the most dull sporting viewing experience in my life was really the icing on the cake.
What was so dull apart from the co-main event? It was a good card overall and Jones finished Cormier in spectacular fashion.
strange comment. Apart from the Co-main, it was an awesome card.
That card was great apart from Woodley and Maia.
These are comments I never understand from you
What hype train? He has had a little bit of hype and headlines a small card in England. He has finished his opponents so deserved a little bit of hype
It was nothing major, and why are you glad it's over. I thought you want to see them make new stars
You confuse the feck out if me
Edit. I'm only watching the card tonight, as I was on holidays
Its not rocket science Randall. Manuwa was being hyped up for a potential title shot due to his alleged knockout power. Him getting knocked out seconds into the first round derails his hype train.
Watch the card.
Not sure this sport is for you, if you found the card dull
I'm watching it even knowing the results and as was said, apart from Woodley v Maia, it was a great card
So what though, he will be back and is still an entertaining fighter
Now the they will hype Oezdimer. Maybe even get a card in Switzerland. And eventually he will get knocked out viciously
Who are they meant to hype? Surely those that go on a streak and have fun fights deserve a push.
Manuwa has great knockout power but he's always had a weak chin. I didn't think that fight with Oezdemir would go past the first round though I must admit I thought Manuwa was going to catch Oezdemir first. Manuwa is always going to be entertaining to watch but he's just not on the level of the likes of Jones, DC and Gustafsson. Maybe they'll do DC v Manuwa early next year if DC is returning to LHW.
They should do DC v Manuwa and Gus v Oezdemir.
Not sure what this even means. My statement on Manuwa was pretty straight forward. He was being irrationally hyped up as a title contender and was humiliated in 42 seconds by a newb.
"I'm out there painting greatness", "beating fighters at their own game". He's such a deluded twat
He also said he's a better version of GSP in the post fighter presser.
"I'm out there painting greatness", "beating fighters at their own game". He's such a deluded twat
He also said he's a better version of GSP in the post fighter presser.
I don't necessarily disagree with a lot of what he said. He's beaten Wonderboy twice and now Maia. I'm sure he doesn't mind the boring label as long as he keeps winning.
Was hard to watch that DC post fight.
Hope Rogan sticks to his promise to not interview knocked out fighters.
Hope Rogan sticks to his promise to not interview knocked out fighters.
Would tend to agree with you on this
He had to fight two extremely awkward fighters and had a near perfect gameplay in the 2nd wonderboy fight and against Maia.
They were both very boring fights. But the 1st fight with wonderboy was great but he scraped a draw. Before that he was mostly in very entertaining fights.
But still has a long way to go to think he is the next GSP
He drew with Wonderboy then won the rematch. Coasted through the Maia fight.
Can't stand his attitude towards navigating through his fights. I'm team Dana on this (ffs).
Cruz was purring over Woodley during the fight and said it was amazing to watch, or words to that effect. Who gives a toss what Rogan says or doesn't - counts for zero, although he's really annoying lol.
Cyborg was awesome. Cowboy was decent, but everytime I see him fight he loses!
Jones as brilliant as he ever was...thought the tribute to Cormier was a nice touch, came across as genuine and more so because it's true, Daniel is a classy guy.
Cyborg was awesome. Cowboy was decent, but everytime I see him fight he loses!
Jones as brilliant as he ever was...thought the tribute to Cormier was a nice touch, came across as genuine and more so because it's true, Daniel is a classy guy.
He's being smart, why do anything different. He dominated Maia, and respected Maia's strengths and kept it standing. No shame in that.
What do you expect him to do? Try to knock Maia out then get taken down and get choked out?
feck that, if the matchmakers want action then just match him up against a brawler. Him vs Lawler was the perfect matchup, problem is such a fight will hardly ever last more than a round or two.
He knocked out lawlor to win the title, so at this stage that match made no sense
Maia deserved the shot, but the fight always had the chance to be the snooze fest it was
I actually love it when one dimensional fighters like Maia get shown up like that. How people can blame Woodley I'll never know.
I don't really understand what you mean by that. Striker vs striker is the best matchup for an exciting fight surely?
As in lawlor and Woodley fought almost a year to the day ago. Lawlor was knocked out very quickly and hasn't fought since. A rematch was not on the cards, although after his win over cowboy he is back in contention