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It sounds like Bisping v GSP is going down at MSG in November. I'm not a big fan of this matchup but with Whittaker out injured until 2018 I'm more okay with it now. When the fight was first made I thought it was ridiculous because Romero was tearing through the division and deserved the title shot over a returning welterweight moving up in weight. You have to wonder where the likes of Rockhold, Weidman and Romero go from here. I would like to see a Rockhold and Weidman rematch before the end of the year.
 
Woodley had to go for the finish though, especially with the state of Maia's eye.
The fact they managed to beat the striking record by halfing it is a disgrace tbh.
GSP is in it for a big money comeback, having the champion being booed out of his last 2 fights for being boring doesn't help this.
Look at his first fight with wonderboy, Woodley doesn't need to fight that way. It's a choice he has made and its something he has to deal with.
 
It sounds like Bisping v GSP is going down at MSG in November. I'm not a big fan of this matchup but with Whittaker out injured until 2018 I'm more okay with it now. When the fight was first made I thought it was ridiculous because Romero was tearing through the division and deserved the title shot over a returning welterweight moving up in weight. You have to wonder where the likes of Rockhold, Weidman and Romero go from here. I would like to see a Rockhold and Weidman rematch before the end of the year.

I'd quite like to see some fresh fights that haven't happened yet. Jacare/Weidman and Rockhold/Romero would make a lot of sense. Of course after all his moaning about wanting a title rematch with Bisping though, Rockhold suddenly returns out of the blue to fight David Branch in September. If he get's through that in good shape I'd be fine with seeing the above fights with Bisping likely tied up to fight GSP later in the year.
 
Rogan is an asshole. Wtf

Rohan has been on Twitter all day apologising for interviewing DC. Reiterating that he was kind of in shock and that he has maintained a position of not interviewing knocked out fighters. A stance he has had since Miocic Vs Overeem I think.

He puts it a lot better than me.
 
I'd quite like to see some fresh fights that haven't happened yet. Jacare/Weidman and Rockhold/Romero would make a lot of sense. Of course after all his moaning about wanting a title rematch with Bisping though, Rockhold suddenly returns out of the blue to fight David Branch in September. If he get's through that in good shape I'd be fine with seeing the above fights with Bisping likely tied up to fight GSP later in the year.
I didn't even realise Rockhold v Branch was confirmed. Good match up for Luke I fancy him to come through that fight without any problems. Romero was offered to Rockhold btw and according to Rockhold Romero was the one who turned it down.
 
To be fair, Evinger is the champ at Invicta and one of the few women who wanted to take the fight.

GDR refused, Holm just had a fight, Nunes didn't want to fight and their original opponent (Meghan Anderson) pulled out for personal reasons.

Not much else UFC could have done.
Dana said afterwards that he talked to Holm and she's interested in Cyborg.
 
I found Rogan's biased towards certain fighters more annoying than interviewing DC. People feck up ut happens but in recent times he is just intolerable with certain fighters for me.
 
Absolute disgrace from Dana white the way he's treating Woodley
Why? It's his job to put together fights that people want to see, no one wants to see Woodley fight, if he'd won impressively the wonderboy fights would have been forgotten - and he'd have rightly been fighting GSP, but that's not something i'm desperate to see headlining a PPV
 
Jones is born for this sport. A natural killing machine. As much as I was rooting for DC to get the win and set up a future trilogy fight, it does feel really exciting to have Jones back in the UFC competing in championship fights. Hopefully he can stay on the straight and narrow. Feck the Brock Lesnar fight, no interest in that freak show, lets get the Gus rematch going.
 
Woodley is a tough one. The two boring fights are against:

Wonderboy who is a known counter striker, so Woodley had to be cautious.

And Maia who is only thinking about one thing, taking his opponent to the ground so makes sense why Woodley focused on his TDD.

Styles make fights and he was up against styles that require a certain type of mentality to get through.
 
Woodley is a tough one. The two boring fights are against:

Wonderboy who is a known counter striker, so Woodley had to be cautious.

And Maia who is only thinking about one thing, taking his opponent to the ground so makes sense why Woodley focused on his TDD.

Styles make fights and he was up against styles that require a certain type of mentality to get through.
I dont' disagree, but he could have finished Maia
But then at the same time, I don't want to watch him again in a hurry
 
I have to admit that I'm thrilled to see Cormier lose the way he did.:D
 
I found Rogan's biased towards certain fighters more annoying than interviewing DC. People feck up ut happens but in recent times he is just intolerable with certain fighters for me.

He was in love with Cerrone last night, Lawler barely got a mention off him.
 
He was in love with Cerrone last night, Lawler barely got a mention off him.

Yeah Cerrone is one, DC was another and Cyborg (though in fairness she was dominating) I dunno I get that he will have friendships with fighters and that and it's fine to do that but at times it just takes away from the fight a bit for me. Should be impartial to it all.
 
He was in love with Cerrone last night, Lawler barely got a mention off him.
He routinely does this though. He's good friends with the Diaz brothers and was all over the place in the McGregor fight. He's very close to Cerrone and has him on his podcast every so often.
He apologised for interviewing DC last night by saying he did it because he was in shock. Why was he In shock?
It's this level of emotional involvement that is getting overshadowed by Dom and he's not allowed to colour fights the same way he did with Goldie. He's getting called out a lot more about it now.
 
Basically anyone who has a close relationship with pundits and presenters is going to get a lot of favoritism. Last night before the fights, Kenny Florian and Bisping each predicted DC would win. They also went for Woodley over Maia. Rogan on the other hand tends to get far too over the top in characterizing fighters, just as he did with Rousey a couple of years ago. The biggest mistake UFC made was getting rid of Goldberg, as he and Rogan were the perfect combination of calling fights. The likes of Cruz/DC/Stann/Anik etc just aren't the same as the iconic Goldie/Rogan combo.
 
Basically anyone who has a close relationship with pundits and presenters is going to get a lot of favoritism. Last night before the fights, Kenny Florian and Bisping each predicted DC would win. They also went for Woodley over Maia. Rogan on the other hand tends to get far too over the top in characterizing fighters, just as he did with Rousey a couple of years ago. The biggest mistake UFC made was getting rid of Goldberg, as he and Rogan were the perfect combination of calling fights. The likes of Cruz/DC/Stann/Anik etc just aren't the same as the iconic Goldie/Rogan combo.

Rogan with Rousey was embarrassing before her loss to Holm. Him crying over her in interviews and the podcast with her and Edmund on was unwatchable.

Re the commentary teams I've got to say I do like Cruz as a commentator he's really good to listen to even if he was bias towards DC, in particular the Woodley fight I found him good last night.
 
I like listening to Dominick Cruz on commentary. Think he has some great insight. Anik is also fine as play by play but rogan makes the blood boil.
 


That's quite devastating to watch. He had no idea what happened, he had a go at the ref for stopping the fight prematurely, tried to leave the cage but they blocked him in, his corner weren't allowed in the ring, then Rogan decides to interview him sobbing.

He looks severely concussed.
 
I like listening to Dominick Cruz on commentary. Think he has some great insight. Anik is also fine as play by play but rogan makes the blood boil.

Yeah I don't mind Anik either he stays out of it a bit more and therefore doesn't have as many mishaps as Goldberg used to. Think the 3 man booth can be good at times when Rogan isn't biased but that's rare.

 


That's quite devastating to watch. He had no idea what happened, he had a go at the ref for stopping the fight prematurely, tried to leave the cage but they blocked him in, his corner weren't allowed in the ring, then Rogan decides to interview him sobbing.

He looks severely concussed.


Just shows how big of a cnut Rogan is. He clearly sees him concussed and not himself and still goes for the interview.
 
Dana is harsh on Woodley, what's the guy meant to do! He is fighting a guy that obviously wants to go for takedowns and get him on the floor. Woodley primary objective is to win the fight and come out with the least damage.

Rogan was out of order interviewing DC but he's apologised. There are obviously a few conflicts with fighters that get involved with Rogan, TV shows etc. but it doesn't bother me. It's either funny to see one of his fighters lose and he gets the hump, or he goes over the top wild for an average performance by one of his fighters.

Cerrone deserved at least the draw in my opinion. Apart from the first 30 second flurry I think he was in control for the majority. 1st round only just Lawlers because of the start. 2nd round Cerrone dominated. 3rd round was very close to call.
 
Basically anyone who has a close relationship with pundits and presenters is going to get a lot of favoritism. Last night before the fights, Kenny Florian and Bisping each predicted DC would win. They also went for Woodley over Maia. Rogan on the other hand tends to get far too over the top in characterizing fighters, just as he did with Rousey a couple of years ago. The biggest mistake UFC made was getting rid of Goldberg, as he and Rogan were the perfect combination of calling fights. The likes of Cruz/DC/Stann/Anik etc just aren't the same as the iconic Goldie/Rogan combo.
Goldie never checked Rogan like Dom does though. Joe did spout some nonsense and over dramatised incidents that the opponent just brushed away. Joe is now being corrected by a man who knows what he's talking about and that's why he appears subdued.
Gone are the days when Joe told us that fighter A needs to explode out of a submission attempt /hold or how that was a nasty leg kick to the abdomen
 
Why are people still slating Rogan over the interviewer? He clearly regretted it straightaway and has done nothing but apologise since. Hopefully he learns from it and we move on.

Plenty of other reasons to call him a dixk, pick one of those.
 
Why are people still slating Rogan over the interviewer? He clearly regretted it straightaway and has done nothing but apologise since. Hopefully he learns from it and we move on.

Plenty of other reasons to call him a dixk, pick one of those.

Since he apologised I haven't seen many people slate him for the interview. In fact it seems we were all slating him for the other stuff.
 
Since he apologised I haven't seen many people slate him for the interview. In fact it seems we were all slating him for the other stuff.
I saw a post from this morning slating the interview.
 
If they want Woodley to 'fight' they should give him an opponent who isn't a specialist. It's really that simple. Woodley is doing the smart thing by his family, his health and from a purely logical standpoint: why should he put himself in jeopardy when he can win without having to do so? Give him some foolhardy 'lionhearts' and watch the K.O's and action go up.
They are all specialists. Woodley is a specialist in wrestling, with powerful hands. He played the percentages at weekend, kept it standing but still had no intention of finishing.

As far as doing right by his family, he's on the fast track out of the UFC after last night. If fighters like Rory and Mousasi can be moved on, coasting fighters like Woodley certainly can. There is nothing appealing about him.

Dana is harsh on Woodley, what's the guy meant to do! He is fighting a guy that obviously wants to go for takedowns and get him on the floor. Woodley primary objective is to win the fight and come out with the least damage.
Well that seemed to be the extent of his ambition so he should stop asking for big money fights against McGregor or GSP.

Even after you become champ, you still have to show something. He could have used his wrestling to out grapple and potentially nullify Maia or if he wasn't confident of that, he should have knocked him out standing. Either would have raised his stock. What you don't do is do nothing.
 
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Its weird how there seems to be so much controversy now a days over interviewing TKO/KO'd fighters.

They used to do it pretty much without fail before and it was never a problem.
 
In fairness that post said he was out of order but apologised (that's the obly 1 I can see anyway?) so it's not like it's a massive criticism.
I haven't seen the apology. Still can't tbf, but fair enough.
 
Its weird how there seems to be so much controversy now a days over interviewing TKO/KO'd fighters.

They used to do it pretty much without fail before and it was never a problem.

In fairness to Rogan he was the one who introduced it himself after the Overeem vs. Miocic fight wasn't he? Where Overeem said he felt the tap.

It's a good rule to implement and at least Rogan tried to do it. I suppose he didn't do a brilliant job though as he broke his own rule after 10months and just 11 UFC events!

I haven't seen the apology. Still can't tbf, but fair enough.

Sorry bad wording on my behalf, I meant they said Rogan was out of order but Rogan apologised the poster didn't apologise to Rogan. Not that it matters much now anyway.
 
The problem they've got with her is that there's no actual division for her. They're just scrambling around finding 135ers who are big enough to jump up a weight (I.e the Holm talk.) they need to build a division and get fighters in there instead of scrambling all the time.
Yes. I'm sick and tired of seeing lambs thrown to the slaughter for her to feed. And even at that, she kills herself to make weight. It's all farcical - they really should do an UF season for women of that weight and at least properly get that division up and running.

It doesn't help in the case of Cyborg, but at least it's a start.

Another thing that annoys me about her, is this billing of monster and beast when all she's doing is beating up people who shouldn't be in the octagon with her in the first place... Akin to someone like Cain killing himself to make weight for LHW and then blowing up post weigh-in and just cleaning house.
To be fair, Evinger is the champ at Invicta and one of the few women who wanted to take the fight.

GDR refused, Holm just had a fight, Nunes didn't want to fight and their original opponent (Meghan Anderson) pulled out for personal reasons.

Not much else UFC could have done.
Yeah there isn't much they can do with Cyborg, but it does grind my gears the billing she gets for fighting women who stand no chance from the off before skill and ability is even factored in.



They are all specialists. Woodley is a specialist in wrestling, with powerful hands. He played the percentages at weekend, kept it standing but still had no intention of finishing.

As far as doing right by his family, he's on the fast track out of the UFC after last night. If fighters like Rory and Mousasi can be moved on, coasting fighters like Woodley certainly can. There is nothing appealing about him.
Wrestling is something most UFC fighters can do to varying extent, and obviously elite wrestlers have an advantage, but an elite karateka or BJJ exponent has an absolute chasm between him and the next man trying fend him off in any way with a mirrored style to the point where full counter plans have to be put in place to absolutely avoid their field of expertise. You might say that's true of the very best wrestlers, too, but it's hardly the same. Woodley was terrified of going to ground and he knew if at any time he got put on his back, the fight would be over for him. Of course that's going to make him cautious and hesitant, and it's fine for people to say he could have finished Maia numerous times, but then, if Woodley had made a decision like that and got it wrong, those same people will just say 'oh well' and go about their day, whereas for Woodley, that's the difference between 1000's of dollars, his profile and any big money earning potential. The guy already knows he's disliked by Dana, which makes him even more hesitant as he knows he will be practically blacklisted if he loses the belt.

And about match-making, the UFC really needs to be regulated and follow an actual system instead of having a clown like White match-make to line his own pockets and feck countless contenders and champions who have earned their right to have the biggest fights put by the wayside with such casual ease.

People don't like Woodley? So what, all the more joy for them when he is dethroned. It's up to the UFC to make him a heel and monetize that. You can't just toss him to the side for being a cautious and strategic fighter, ffs.
 
I'd like to see Jones fight Gus. Gus definitely deserved that rematch. In my opinion, he clearly won that fight against Jones although it was close.

DC should retire. He'll never beat Jones. He'll make enough money in the media.