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DC embracing his dark side. One of the best post-fight interviews I've ever seen. On Rumble though, what the hell was that gameplan? Absolutely terrible, and it wouldn't surprise me if he gave up because retirement was in his head.

Really good card, but disappointed with how the Weidman-Mousasi fight ended. Also shout out Mousasi for remaining classy in the end.
 
You're in octagon with probably the best wrestler in the game ATM, one of the best that ever competed in UFC and MMA as a whole, and one of the most decorated ones, an Olympian who's training with Velasquez on a daily basis and has a ridiculous gas tank as well and the first thing you do is to try and take him down?

It was never going to work even if he could take DC down, he's simply too good on the ground. Really disappointed with Rumble's performance. Is like he learned nothing from the previous fight.
 
Even though it's the right decision, who made Big John the king of video refs? Especially in a state that doesn't allow it.
The ref has to stand by his decision unless every fight has the advantage of someone jumping in to right a wrong.
 
Even though it's the right decision, who made Big John the king of video refs? Especially in a state that doesn't allow it.
The ref has to stand by his decision unless every fight has the advantage of someone jumping in to right a wrong.

Was it Big John or Dan Miragliotta who was refereeing?
 
Was it Big John or Dan Miragliotta who was refereeing?
Big John was the one to run down and put the ref in an impossible deicision. Im actually putting the blame on him.
Also Chris is a scumbag. He tried putting his hands down to get him disqualifjed for the cheap win. He's then busy telling the doctors about his near death experience and how he can't continue only for his lies to be used against him when the decision was reversed.
 
Big John was the one to run down and put the ref in an impossible deicision. Im actually putting the blame on him.
Also Chris is a scumbag. He tried putting his hands down to get him disqualifjed for the cheap win. He's then busy telling the doctors about his near death experience and how he can't continue only for his lies to be used against him when the decision was reversed.

Yeah he tried to get a favourable decision and it backfired.

I'm curious if they gave him the W would they be able to overturn the decision retrospectively upon seeing the video?

Classy press conference from Mousasi.
 
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What a strange event that was. Brooks it's out of his depth in UFC. Glad Weidman lost... He got lucky, the moose looked on course to win. But the decision making from the officials was a farce. Rumble that dumb feck trying to wrestle DC... What was the thinking?
 
Probably the right decision for rumble to retire. He's no where near the top level as DC has proven (twice.) Shame he never got to fight Jones but then he'd of got schooled even worse there so suppose it's not the end of the world.

Felt a bit bad for Weidman, it's easy to say he's looking for the DQ or whatever and it's a fair point but judging by his post fight speech he was barely coherent. His last 2 fights have been close up until the stoppage but it is a fair comment to say he's never beat an in prime top opponent. Equally at the end of the day they shouldn't be using replays in New York as it's not what they do so I don't quite get why they did? NY has done itself no favours in any of their cards with the UFC really.
 
Delighted for DC, no idea why is unpopular. Rumble looked awful but am sorry to see him retire

Feckin shit show for the co main. Was a really good fight and then totally ruined

All in all a very fun card

Edit: will brooks who was the man in Bellator. Jesus he has been shown up big time so far. Must admit I was expecting a lot more from him
 
People boo DC because they love Bones. It didn't help with him getting the belt under those circumstances either. Neither of this is his fault but glad he is embracing the hate.
 
The best bit about yesterday was Moussasi's epic post fight presser where he repeatedly trolled Bisping.
 
Probably the right decision for rumble to retire. He's no where near the top level as DC has proven (twice.) Shame he never got to fight Jones but then he'd of got schooled even worse there so suppose it's not the end of the world.

Felt a bit bad for Weidman, it's easy to say he's looking for the DQ or whatever and it's a fair point but judging by his post fight speech he was barely coherent. His last 2 fights have been close up until the stoppage but it is a fair comment to say he's never beat an in prime top opponent. Equally at the end of the day they shouldn't be using replays in New York as it's not what they do so I don't quite get why they did? NY has done itself no favours in any of their cards with the UFC really.
The reason why it's so confusing is down to Rogan shouting hysterically over the situation. If he shut his mouth we could have heard what they were saying in the octagon but he had to rabbit on like a child.
WHY IS THE DOCTOR IN THERE?!!!
Well Joe, the doctor was called in by the ref, just because the ref made a bad call doesn't mean they can let the fight continue when Wiedman is acting as if he's near death. It's not as if the doctor jumped in there on their own accord.
The fighters welfare comes first
 
People boo DC because they love Bones. It didn't help with him getting the belt under those circumstances either. Neither of this is his fault but glad he is embracing the hate.
Didn't Jones get booed when Rumble mentioned him yesterday?
 
What he say?

It was just a big rant about Moussasi's career, how he doesn't get paid enough, how he's beat everyone from Henderson to Hunt to Weidman but still doesn't get paid what they do, and he kept using his rant to get in sly digs against Bisping not really being that good.

 
Jon Jones normally gets boo'd

I can't fecking wait for him to come back. Probably my favourite fighter
 
I think Gegard can beat anyone in that division at the moment, with the possible exception of Romero.
 
With Rumble now gone its really down to DC, Jones, Gus, and Manuwa at LHW. Sort of makes things a bit simpler, but I do hope Rumble reconsiders.
 
With Rumble now gone its really down to DC, Jones, Gus, and Manuwa at LHW. Sort of makes things a bit simpler, but I do hope Rumble reconsiders.
Rumble will come back in my opinion. Especially if Jones beats Cormier and is offered the fight. You don't call out Jones in your retirement speech if you dont have a shit tonne of regret
 
Rumble will come back in my opinion. Especially if Jones beats Cormier and is offered the fight. You don't call out Jones in your retirement speech if you dont have a shit tonne of regret

Yeah, I heard Dana say that Jones wouldn't fight DC at International Fight Week since Jones would only just be coming off suspension a day or two prior and he wouldn't want to take that chance. My best guess is that DC Jones will be scheduled for UFC 214 or thereabouts and at the same time we will likely see Manuwa face the winner of Gus/Glover next month. Then the winner of Jones/DC will face whoever comes out on top of the latter bracket.
 
Is there an actual still shot that proves Weidmans fingers weren't on the ground when the leg first connected? Rogan etc made it sound like it was clear, but from what I could see I couldn't tell if Moussasi actually lifted him up and the first contact raised his fingers.

I don't see why anyone is to blame here either. Weidman certainly wasn't cheating. He was told it was an illegal strike so he's allowed to take 5 mins. He intentionally kept his hands on the canvas Moussasi couldn't knee him. If they weren't down at the moment of first impact, I can't see how either fighter or the referee could have known. It's a split second thing. If you've just been kneed in the head and a ref tells you you have 5 mins, you are going to take it. I don't see anything wrong with what Weidman did and I don't see why Moussasi felt he had to say sorry when being interviewed by Joe.

I think it should be ruled a no contest. If Weidman tried to deceive the ref then Moussasi should get the win. But it was the ref who stopped that action and told Weidman it was an illegal blow. Of course he's going to take advantage of that. You can't award a victory based on a refereeing decision. It's not like Weidman was knocked out. The fight was brought to a halt for no reason. Had the ref not thought the blow was illegal, he wouldn't have stopped the action.
 
Is there an actual still shot that proves Weidmans fingers weren't on the ground when the leg first connected? Rogan etc made it sound like it was clear, but from what I could see I couldn't tell if Moussasi actually lifted him up and the first contact raised his fingers.

I don't see why anyone is to blame here either. Weidman certainly wasn't cheating. He was told it was an illegal strike so he's allowed to take 5 mins. He intentionally kept his hands on the canvas Moussasi couldn't knee him. If they weren't down at the moment of first impact, I can't see how either fighter or the referee could have known. It's a split second thing. If you've just been kneed in the head and a ref tells you you have 5 mins, you are going to take it. I don't see anything wrong with what Weidman did and I don't see why Moussasi felt he had to say sorry when being interviewed by Joe.

I think it should be ruled a no contest. If Weidman tried to deceive the ref then Moussasi should get the win. But it was the ref who stopped that action and told Weidman it was an illegal blow. Of course he's going to take advantage of that. You can't award a victory based on a refereeing decision. It's not like Weidman was knocked out. The fight was brought to a halt for no reason. Had the ref not thought the blow was illegal, he wouldn't have stopped the action.

I don't think Weidman was cheating. In fact, I'm still in the dark as to actually what happened and why it resulted in a DQ.
 
Delighted for DC, no idea why is unpopular. Rumble looked awful but am sorry to see him retire

Feckin shit show for the co main. Was a really good fight and then totally ruined

All in all a very fun card

Edit: will brooks who was the man in Bellator. Jesus he has been shown up big time so far. Must admit I was expecting a lot more from him

Agreed on the card...Brooks has been huge let down.
DC's unpopularity lies in the fact that he has reigned champ in a shallow division (not completely his fault...partly Jones fault), whilst not exactly using activity to help bolster the divisions status (once again I don't blame him, he is 38 after all).
He is a great fighter, but circumstances both in and out of his control haven't helped.
 
I don't think Weidman was cheating. In fact, I'm still in the dark as to actually what happened and why it resulted in a DQ.
The doctors, weren't it? And it was a TKO loss.

I think they stopped it because they assumed Weidman was hurt because he was sat on the floor for so long. Then they stood him up and I guess they thought he looked off balance.
 
The doctors, weren't it? And it was a TKO loss.

I think they stopped it because they assumed Weidman was hurt because he was sat on the floor for so long. Then they stood him up and I guess they thought he looked off balance.

This is why I think it should be no contest. He was actually told he had 5 mins. He'd just taken a big shot to the head, so of course he is going to take as much time as possible. People call him a cheat for that, but he had been told the blow was illegal.
 
This is why I think it should be no contest. He was actually told he had 5 mins. He'd just taken a big shot to the head, so of course he is going to take as much time as possible. People call him a cheat for that, but he had been told the blow was illegal.

Yeah but if shots weren't illegal than there should be no rest, right?
 
The doctors, weren't it? And it was a TKO loss.

I think they stopped it because they assumed Weidman was hurt because he was sat on the floor for so long. Then they stood him up and I guess they thought he looked off balance.
Or, you know, they gave him the concussion test and he failed.

How is his speaking usually? In the interview afterwards he didn't come off as a person with wits about him speaking.
 
This is why I think it should be no contest. He was actually told he had 5 mins. He'd just taken a big shot to the head, so of course he is going to take as much time as possible. People call him a cheat for that, but he had been told the blow was illegal.
You are probably right.

But I have little sympathy for Weidman. Like Mousasi eluded to in the post fighter press conference, he used it to get some rest and he was already playing the hands on the floor 'downed opponent' game.
 
Is there an actual still shot that proves Weidmans fingers weren't on the ground when the leg first connected? Rogan etc made it sound like it was clear, but from what I could see I couldn't tell if Moussasi actually lifted him up and the first contact raised his fingers.

I don't see why anyone is to blame here either. Weidman certainly wasn't cheating. He was told it was an illegal strike so he's allowed to take 5 mins. He intentionally kept his hands on the canvas Moussasi couldn't knee him. If they weren't down at the moment of first impact, I can't see how either fighter or the referee could have known. It's a split second thing. If you've just been kneed in the head and a ref tells you you have 5 mins, you are going to take it. I don't see anything wrong with what Weidman did and I don't see why Moussasi felt he had to say sorry when being interviewed by Joe.

I think it should be ruled a no contest. If Weidman tried to deceive the ref then Moussasi should get the win. But it was the ref who stopped that action and told Weidman it was an illegal blow. Of course he's going to take advantage of that. You can't award a victory based on a refereeing decision. It's not like Weidman was knocked out. The fight was brought to a halt for no reason. Had the ref not thought the blow was illegal, he wouldn't have stopped the action.
It has to be a fighters palms touching the canvas, not just his fingers.
 
Yeah but if shots weren't illegal than there should be no rest, right?

Yes totally, but it's neither fighters fault if the ref steps in and says the blows were illegal. It's not like say the Bisping/Silva fight when at times both fighters tried to referee the fight themselves. In this case they just followed the refs instructions.
 
Yes totally, but it's neither fighters fault if the ref steps in and says the blows were illegal. It's not like say the Bisping/Silva fight when at times both fighters tried to referee the fight themselves. In this case they just followed the refs instructions.

Yep that one was pretty bizarre. Odd situation nonetheless.
 
Someone just said imagine what would've happened to LHW if DC missed weight and the fight would've only been a title fight for Rumble. And then Rumble won and retired. There would be no champ.
 
Someone just said imagine what would've happened to LHW if DC missed weight and the fight would've only been a title fight for Rumble. And then Rumble won and retired. There would be no champ.
Even if he won and retired with the current circumstances there would be no champ?

Although i doubt he would retire of he had the title.