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So RDA moving to WW... Could be interesting and can't blame him. No way is he getting title shot at LW.
 
Might be best for him, according to Rogan he collapsed before the Alvarez fight. I think he needed some kind of change, he wasnt bad vs. Ferguson though he looked alright I thought. Be interesting step up anyway.....Cerrone won't be to happy!!
 
Good luck to him at WW, he gonna need it! He probably gonna be the smallest dude in the division.
Hopefully he gets an easy fight to start the new journey. Brandon Thatch comes to mind.



please hopefully this means the fight with Khabib is closer to materialize.
 
Just looked at the next 4-5 events. There is literally nothing to look forward to in the coming months, spare perhaps the Khabib fight at 209 (whoever that will be against).

UFC is really hurting in terms of excitement at the moment. Rousey, their 2nd biggest cash cow has been wiped out and Dana's Sage and Paige pet projects have gotten clobbered, McGregor is apparently out til his kid is born, and they are not having any success luring GSP back due to the sponsorship issue. They need Jon Jones back desperately and asap and need to start looking at a few megafights.
 
Just looked at the next 4-5 events. There is literally nothing to look forward to in the coming months, spare perhaps the Khabib fight at 209 (whoever that will be against).

UFC is really hurting in terms of excitement at the moment. Rousey, their 2nd biggest cash cow has been wiped out and Dana's Sage and Paige pet projects have gotten clobbered, McGregor is apparently out til his kid is born, and they are not having any success luring GSP back due to the sponsorship issue. They need Jon Jones back desperately and asap and need to start looking at a few megafights.

Seems quite bizarre considering you were on here not long ago talking shit about mega fights, Paige and saying how it wasn't about the antics, mega fights etc and instead you just wanted to see the best fighters. In fact:

Who cares if she's known on the celebrity dancing circuit. I can do with a bit less of that and a bit more normal MMA fighting. If I want cheap, staged drama I'll turn on WWE instead.

So when they're giving us people like VanZant or putting on fights with crazy antics you complain that you just want normal MMA. So over the next month or so, you've got exactly that...and your response is "there is literally nothing to look forward to in the coming months" and "UFC is really hurting in terms of excitement at the moment".

:lol:
 
Seems quite bizarre considering you were on here not long ago talking shit about mega fights, Paige and saying how it wasn't about the antics, mega fights etc and instead you just wanted to see the best fighters. In fact:



So when they're giving us people like VanZant or putting on fights with crazy antics you complain that you just want normal MMA. So over the next month or so, you've got exactly that...and your response is "there is literally nothing to look forward to in the coming months" and "UFC is really hurting in terms of excitement at the moment".

:lol:



Its true there isnt much star power in the the coming months but certainly some fights I am looking forward to

Cerrone v Masdidal at end of month :drool: And return of the Korean Zombie which will be immense

But also a chance for them to build new stars
 
The upcoming Fox card is pretty good I think. Number 1 contender main event. Cerrone vs Masvidal. Ngannou who seems like a potential future champ has his biggest test against Arlovski. As well as a number of other fighters who usually provide good entertainment like Lombard, Aljamain Sterling.
 
Just looked at the next 4-5 events. There is literally nothing to look forward to in the coming months, spare perhaps the Khabib fight at 209 (whoever that will be against).

UFC is really hurting in terms of excitement at the moment. Rousey, their 2nd biggest cash cow has been wiped out and Dana's Sage and Paige pet projects have gotten clobbered, McGregor is apparently out til his kid is born, and they are not having any success luring GSP back due to the sponsorship issue. They need Jon Jones back desperately and asap and need to start looking at a few megafights.
Isn't it confirmed against Tony Ferguson? At least according to Wiki it is.
 
Its true there isnt much star power in the the coming months but certainly some fights I am looking forward to

Cerrone v Masdidal at end of month :drool: And return of the Korean Zombie which will be immense

But also a chance for them to build new stars

Wouldn't disagree on that too, more pointing out how Raoul was complaining the other week on here about all of that stuff and wanting more normal MMA and how he's now shooting them down for giving us 'normal' MMA and some more fighters getting a chance to make a name for themselves. Just seems a bit strange.

Might not be too many huge names coming up but there's plenty of good looking fights. Penn/Rodriguez, Lauzon, McGee, Shevchenko/Pena, Cerrone, Assuncao/Sterling, Arlovski/Ngannou, Lombard/Tavares, Bermudez/Korean Zombie, Grasso/Herrig, Holm/Randamie, Browne/Lewis (really hoping they just come out throwing bombs), Teixeira, Poirier, Dos Santos/Struve and more. There's plenty of quality on show, hopefully most of it delivers.

Also looks like 207 did around 1.1 million buys.
 
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Seems quite bizarre considering you were on here not long ago talking shit about mega fights, Paige and saying how it wasn't about the antics, mega fights etc and instead you just wanted to see the best fighters. In fact:



So when they're giving us people like VanZant or putting on fights with crazy antics you complain that you just want normal MMA. So over the next month or so, you've got exactly that...and your response is "there is literally nothing to look forward to in the coming months" and "UFC is really hurting in terms of excitement at the moment".

:lol:

Normal MMA as in we want interesting matchups not White's Sage and Paige pet projects.

Look at the cards over the next couple of months. Absolutely no meat on the bone for the fans.

BJ Penn, who hasn't won a fight in 6 years is being offered up as the sacrificial lamb for Rodriguez - that's the actual main card featured fight. The following week is Shevchenko v Pena - an ok fight. The following week, loads more anonymous fighters who a vast majority of MMA fans can't get excited about. The following week is UFC 208 led by Holly Holm who has lost her last two fights, fighting in the 145 div. That's the actual main event.

Now to be clear, no one is asking for McGregor and Rousey fights every month, but where are the good fights ? How about a mens title fight in at least one of the nine men's divisions ?
 
In fairness though there is some decent fights.

Next week:

Lauzon vs. Held
McGee vs. Saunders
Rodriguez vs. Penn

Could all be good fights, I agree re Penn by the way and the not winning a fight but it;s a decent enough event for a Fox Card, especially 2 weeks after a card which had 2 world title fights.

The card on the 28th:

Pena vs. Shevchenko
Cerrone vs. Masvidal
Assuncao vs. Sterling

are all good fights and also Ngannou is on the card and the UFC are keen to hype him up it seems. Again not a bad card. And the week after that the card is pretty poor but it has got the Korean Zombie return which will be interesting.

I agree as a PPV 208 is shite as well but then people said 206 was weak and it was probably one of the best events of the year.

Did they favour Sage and Paige? Probably so but lets be honest both of them got hard fights in their last fights. Plenty of people in this thread backed Waterson to beat Paige (in fact I think most did) and plenty said Sage would struggle vs. Gall. I don't see them as gimme fights really. Seems both were given hard fights. There's nothing wrong with him trying to build stars either, it seems they can't win at times. HE tried building up fighters and then they're deemed as pet projects etc.

Which men are able to fight at the moment who have belts? Johnson fought in December (and doesn't draw anyone anyway), Garbrandt won the title less than 2 weeks ago, Aldo could probably fight....which is ironic cos if it was Conor doing what he was right now I'd imagine he'd be holding up divisions etc, McGregor is having time off and did just fight in November, Woodley is meant to be fighting at 209, Bisping got battered in October and did say he would fight in March time, Stipe will probably fight soonish. The one championship they could do something with is probably the Light Heavyweight but Cormier pulled out injured and Johnson said he only wants to fight him so they're a bit stuck, also it's the worst division on the roster and outside them 2 no one really cares about the light heavyweights until Jones is back.

It works both ways, I see the point with people saying they put their eggs in one basket with COnor but it is a hard opportunity to turn down for them he was/is a cash cow and they are bound to milk it. They need fighters to do more themselves though. It's all well and good Ferguson moaning about his contract but then he signed it so prove why you deserve more. Look at Khabib he's out promoting himself and he's not even got a fight announced. The UFC do favour certain fighters in promoting them I agree with that but the fighters really don't help themselves.
 
Normal MMA as in we want interesting matchups not White's Sage and Paige pet projects.

Look at the cards over the next couple of months. Absolutely no meat on the bone for the fans.

BJ Penn, who hasn't won a fight in 6 years is being offered up as the sacrificial lamb for Rodriguez - that's the actual main card featured fight. The following week is Shevchenko v Pena - an ok fight. The following week, loads more anonymous fighters who a vast majority of MMA fans can't get excited about. The following week is UFC 208 led by Holly Holm who has lost her last two fights, fighting in the 145 div. That's the actual main event.

Now to be clear, no one is asking for McGregor and Rousey fights every month, but where are the good fights ? How about a mens title fight in at least one of the nine men's divisions ?
Well, if you want new stars to rise they must still get the fights in their pockets. Some "boring match" could become a star making performance.
 
Well, if you want new stars to rise they must still get the fights in their pockets. Some "boring match" could become a star making performance.

True, although it surely can't be so difficult to weave in a few more known fighters into the mix. The trouble with UFC is they have shot their wad with all the massive events like 200, 205 etc and are now dealing with the reality of insufficient known talent available when a major fight or two gets cancelled due to injury or suspension.
 
Normal MMA as in we want interesting matchups not White's Sage and Paige pet projects.

Look at the cards over the next couple of months. Absolutely no meat on the bone for the fans.

BJ Penn, who hasn't won a fight in 6 years is being offered up as the sacrificial lamb for Rodriguez - that's the actual main card featured fight. The following week is Shevchenko v Pena - an ok fight. The following week, loads more anonymous fighters who a vast majority of MMA fans can't get excited about. The following week is UFC 208 led by Holly Holm who has lost her last two fights, fighting in the 145 div. That's the actual main event.

Now to be clear, no one is asking for McGregor and Rousey fights every month, but where are the good fights ? How about a mens title fight in at least one of the nine men's divisions ?
Their numbered PPV events they always try to have a title fight. UFC 208 has the new featherweight Womens title and UFC 209 has not been booked yet. But I expect that to be pretty stacked.

The fightnights have always been as you see them now. a good main event and handful of well known and not so well known fighters. The difference now is there are more fight nights than before

Although it has been rumoured the new owners want to stage less events per year. Which will not be good for UFC's massive roster
 
Didn't they replay of 206 on Fox draw massive numbers? I'm surprised they don't do that more to generate interest. Even if it's 3-4 weeks aftr the event every now and then. Look at people like Cub Swanson who was probably involved in the fight of the year that night. There would surely be some interest in him from casual fans on the back of that. Not saying he's the next McGregor but it surely helps them.
 
Aldo could probably fight....which is ironic cos if it was Conor doing what he was right now I'd imagine he'd be holding up divisions.
He's ready to fight and ironically after all the shit Max was giving him about pulling out of fights and being inactive, Holloway now says he's injured so it leaves Jose with no opponent.
 
It seems Woodley vs Thompson is confirmed for UFC 209.

I would prefer Maia to get the chance but at least it's better than a fight with Bisping or Conor.
 
It seems Woodley vs Thompson is confirmed for UFC 209.

I would prefer Maia to get the chance but at least it's better than a fight with Bisping or Conor.

That is great. So Khabib/Ferguson and Woodley/Thompson. That's a fecking proper UFC card.

Edit. Overreem-Hunt is also on that card. Definitely a top card.
 
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It seems Woodley vs Thompson is confirmed for UFC 209.

I would prefer Maia to get the chance but at least it's better than a fight with Bisping or Conor.


Good fight and one that should of been made. I'd imagine despite all Woodley's talk to Bisping etc it was always getting made and he knew it. Probably just winding a few people up with the threat of it not happening. I think he might finish Thompson this time.

209 is shaping up really well. Also got Lando on there as well who people expect big things from. Seems they've completely sacrificed 208 for it really.
 
In meantime :lol:
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Dunno why so anyone got annoyed about her comments. MMA isn't the same thing as the creative arts. So she's right. Plus, who gives a shit if she doesn't like MMA. Why does it matter if someone else does or doesn't enjoy the same things as you do?

I can see your point but equally I can see why people got annoyed. She was patronising in tone how she said it and it would rub people up the wrong way, especially people working in that industry.

For what it's worth I hate pretty much all award shows for celebrities. It's basically a massive ego rub and her whole speech is a prime example of it. How the "arts" are so hard done by she needs to get over herself. She's worth 100s of millions of dollars, there's people far worse off than the elite group that get invited to them rooms. That's not just to do with MMA though so it's probably not really a gripe for this thread.
 
Dunno why so anyone got annoyed about her comments. MMA isn't the same thing as the creative arts. So she's right. Plus, who gives a shit if she doesn't like MMA. Why does it matter if someone else does or doesn't enjoy the same things as you do?
Yeah, nothing wrong with what she said about Trump, she's just guilty of using knucklehead sports like MMA and American football to drill home her point.

And MMA has more than its fair share of Trump supporters, who would rather look at it as an attack on the sport than acknowledge the behavior of the tool they're putting in the White House.
 
Dunno why so anyone got annoyed about her comments. MMA isn't the same thing as the creative arts. So she's right. Plus, who gives a shit if she doesn't like MMA. Why does it matter if someone else does or doesn't enjoy the same things as you do?
It was just completely unnecessary, she'd spoken so well and to say that really didn't add anything and was a bit needless
She just doesn't need to go and make that cheap shot really
 
It was just completely unnecessary, she'd spoken so well and to say that really didn't add anything and was a bit needless
She just doesn't need to go and make that cheap shot really
Don't think it was intended so much as a cheap shot, but a play on words. The word being art in MMA.

I really don't give a toss, she's entitled to her opinion.
 
They're taking the piss with these interim belts at this point.

In fairness though it allows it to be a 5 Round fight and also both fighters will get more money. It also pretty much means the winner is number 1 contender for the real title. No excuses. Either way I'm nbot to fussed just hoping no one gets injured for it!
 
:lol: An interim belt? McGregor only won it two months ago for feck sake.
 
:lol: An interim belt? McGregor only won it two months ago for feck sake.

I agree it's quick timing but then it seems the Interim Title is a way of just saying someones a number 1 contender. It's bullshit as Khabib said but it just seems their way of doing things.

Look at the positives of it, it's 5 rounds instead of 3. Both fighters will get paid more which is an issue for the UFC and it's added to an already good card. No point worrying about interim titles etc just enjoy the event.
 
Be a belting event that with this and Woodley-Wonderboy again
Guess winner v McGregor likely in new york, as aren't they virtually agreed to go back