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It'll build Nunes up though, especially after such a devastating win. I guarentee she's front and centre of every promotional event for womens mma from now on, they were already hyping her up on Fox as someone who will be champ for a long time etc.
Dana wanted to raid the Ronda brand one last time, even if she won she only had 1 or 2 fights left in her, add in the fact everybody would still focus on Ronda no matter how they promoted Nunes. It's not as if there was this massive outcry over it, it was Joe bitching about it in a passive aggressive manner.
The same Joe who kept signing Ronda's praises during Nunes walk in, the same Joe claiming this is the biggest fight of Nunes career etc etc despite Nunes being the champ.
The same Joe who, in the wrap up segment, claimed Nunes felt disrespected about the whole thing despite asking her the same question 5 mins later and she denied it all.

You really have a thing for Joe Rogan, don't you?
 
You really have a thing for Joe Rogan, don't you?
I've hated him for a long time. From no selling half of Codys landed shots last night to making a big deal about a dubious headbutt to give Dom an out for getting carved up. It was a headbutt folks! I'll show you at the end of the round! It was a headbutt!
Best of all was not being sure Dom landed a shot and saying he 'Wasn't sure Mike but I think he tagged him. He could be hurt Mike, if he was tagged he could be hurt'.
Or overstating Dom's workrate during round 5 and practically begging for a dubious judge decision.
God Im angry again!
 
I've hated him for a long time. From no selling half of Codys landed shots last night to making a big deal about a dubious headbutt to give Dom an out for getting carved up. It was a headbutt folks! I'll show you at the end of the round! It was a headbutt!
Best of all was not being sure Dom landed a shot and saying he 'Wasn't sure Mike but I think he tagged him. He could be hurt Mike, if he was tagged he could be hurt'.
Or overstating Dom's workrate during round 5 and practically begging for a dubious judge decision.
God Im angry again!
"Mike, Cody might need to win round five here. Mike, Mike, he might think he needs to win this round, Cody has to be careful here, this round could be important, we just don't know....."

He may have been watching a different fight on his phone.
 
Yeah, Rogan has this thing where he has a favourite or something and will not really change his opinion even if what hes seeing is different. He was no selling some of Codys shots last night :lol:

I got more respect for Cody as a fighter last night. And I also got more respect for Cruz post fight. Very classy. Its nice to see he can dish it out and has no issue with those who give it back like Cody was doing during the fight.

If anybody stays with that fraud of a coach after what happened to Rousey, I have no sympathy for them. Says a lot when Rondas mother calls him a fraud and this was even before the Holm fight.
 
Can't believe how stupid Ronda was trying to box with Nunes. Thought she'd be better than that.
 
Can't believe how stupid Ronda was trying to box with Nunes. Thought she'd be better than that.

Nunes reminds me a bit of McGregor. People underestimate her reach, speed, and most importantly striking power, and wind up paying a massive price for it.
 
"Mike, Cody might need to win round five here. Mike, Mike, he might think he needs to win this round, Cody has to be careful here, this round could be important, we just don't know....."

He may have been watching a different fight on his phone.
Oh I could go on all day about Joe. From preaching about Rondas flawless boxing technique to claiming he was always unsure about her striking. From creaming himself over Nates elbow and shoulder shots v Conor and nonchalantly saying 'He tagged him'when Conor smacked him flush on the draw.
Or when discussing the fight on his podcast, continually stated that 'Some say Nate won that fight, personally I think Conor won but it was really close. So if we say Nate won because there is an argument there.. ' like a little worm since the Diaz brothers are his smoking buddys.. That went on for like 4 months.
Ill leave it there. Im boring myself.
 
Oh I could go on all day about Joe. From preaching about Rondas flawless boxing technique to claiming he was always unsure about her striking. From creaming himself over Nates elbow and shoulder shots v Conor and nonchalantly saying 'He tagged him'when Conor smacked him flush on the draw.
Or when discussing the fight on his podcast, continually stated that 'Some say Nate won that fight, personally I think Conor won but it was really close. So if we say Nate won because there is an argument there.. ' like a little worm since the Diaz brothers are his smoking buddys.. That went on for like 4 months.
Ill leave it there. Im boring myself.

Why on earth do you listen to his podcast? Sounds like you are torturing yourself!

I like Rogan. He's passionate and seems a good guy.
 
Why on earth do you listen to his podcast? Sounds like you are torturing yourself!

I like Rogan. He's passionate and seems a good guy.
It depends on the guest, reddit timestamps his converstation so I can dip in and out when something interesting pops up.
Even if I loved Joe i couldn't listen to it. 3 hrs about how doing certain types of drugs propels you to other dimensions or how we'll all evolve into immortal robots!
 
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I don't understand Rousey at all, takes a year off builds up her physique and yet does not get anyone in to teach her the basics of self defence. Still can't keep a solid guard, still can't stop an attack at all. Just like in her last loss. Absolutely mind boggling....
 
I don't understand Rousey at all, takes a year off builds up her physique and yet does not get anyone in to teach her the basics of self defence. Still can't keep a solid guard, still can't stop an attack at all. Just like in her last loss. Absolutely mind boggling....

Its her coach. Put Rousey in a proper training team/coach and she will excel.
 
Just finished watching it all this morning, had to avoid the spoils of internet and TV. That was brutal to watch, right from the off Nunes just toying with her. I see Ronda's boxing and guard hasn't improved at all so amateurish. Cruz & Garbrandt was a great fight, I was disappointed for Cruz because I like him but Cody matched him at his own game and was in control after few rounds, Cruz was just made to make risks after that but couldn't pull any. Now it shakes things up in that division and sets up at potential Cruz vs Garbrandt-Faber type rivalry like they used to have. I think Cruz should wait for Dillashaw vs Garbandt fight if that happens though.
 
Just caught up with this, Cruz losing was a shock, Rousey much less so. Cody was class.
 
That Cody/Cruz fight was brilliant. The first time I've wanted Cruz to win a fight and he finally loses. :lol:

Nunes/Rousey went down even better than expected. Watch Nunes get popped for PED's now even though Ronda looked significantly more filled out than her...
 
Wouldn't mind seeing Nunes match up wth Cyborg, assuming the latter clears up her steroid issues.

As for Garbrandt, he seems to want a rematch with Cruz, which is a bit odd given that its usually the loser who immediately calls for a rematch. I'd love to see a rematch as I think Dom would make the appropriate adjustments to possibly win. That would obviously enrage Dillashaw.
 
Cody can go up and McGregor can go down, not that I think it will happen hence why I said hypothetically.

I get the feeling that McGregor has gotten to that stage of his career where cutting that weight would do more damage than good. The weight cut is brutal. There is nothing for him at that weight not Money, not a challenge nothing to prove.

Hypothetically Macgregor kills him.
 
Im still shocked that she has so much loyalty to that fraud of a coach. And even worse that she tried to trade and didnt go for any type of takedown. Has to be a little bit of arrogance
 
Garbrandt is going to become very big for the ufc.

I can't wait for his defense against Dillashaw. It's going to be fireworks.

I don't think he wants first defence of the belt to be against Dillashaw, that's risky business for Garbrandt. He sounded out a rematch against Dom in the presser, easier work for him.

He is a rising star for sure, but it would take a crazy 12 months before he could command big ppv buys like Mcgregor/Rousy.
 
I get the feeling that McGregor has gotten to that stage of his career where cutting that weight would do more damage than good. The weight cut is brutal. There is nothing for him at that weight not Money, not a challenge nothing to prove.

Hypothetically Macgregor kills him.

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I don't think he wants first defence of the belt to be against Dillashaw, that's risky business for Garbrandt. He sounded out a rematch against Dom in the presser, easier work for him.

He is a rising star for sure, but it would take a crazy 12 months before he could command big ppv buys like Mcgregor/Rousy.
That would make sense but Cruz pretty much said he wants a rest and that TJ should probably get next shot. Cody also mentioned TJ immediately after the fight. Dana also said TJ will get next shot.

After the way he schooled Lineker, denying him title shot would be a joke. But it would be funny seeing TJ lose his Shit if he doesn't get the shot.
 
Im still shocked that she has so much loyalty to that fraud of a coach. And even worse that she tried to trade and didnt go for any type of takedown. Has to be a little bit of arrogance
He'd got her believing she was a striker. I don't know why you'd do that or why she'd buy into it, but that's what he got into Rousey's head.
 
He'd got her believing she was a striker. I don't know why you'd do that or why she'd buy into it, but that's what he got into Rousey's head.

Which I guess is fine, but once that Holm match happened, and she stuck with him, its hard to have sympathy for her.
 
Which I guess is fine, but once that Holm match happened, and she stuck with him, its hard to have sympathy for her.
No doubt. She's torpedoed herself by sticking with him and by going away from the best aspects of her technique. She has fantastic judo, but she should have added good strike defense to her game, not tried to become a striker. It's a lot easier to become great at defending something and counterattacking with what you're great at than to come up to the level of your opponent's strength.
 
She lost her mind after her last bout and has been out of the fight game ever since. If anything, her mental fortitude is going to be more tested in her return than it ever has been, and if things get rough out there via strikes, it will be fascinating to see where she goes mentally (fight or flight). Nunes' camp will surely be looking to have her go out there and present an onslaught that further unnerves and unsettles Rousey in her ring return.

If Jon Jones can look like a quarter of the fighter he is after less time out than Rousey has had, then one has to wonder what an infinitely inferior fighter is going to be like with not only ring rust to contend with but also all sorts of personal demons to face up to in the very same match.

Fighting without a tune-up is a stupid idea, especially so for someone with such poor stand-up and a dire camp coaching her.

The bout has the makings of a disaster, imo. Rousey will gain massive kudos if she comes out on top despite all these factors going against her.

Her boxing is far from fine. It's not even average. Call a spade a spade.

Rousey has talent, just not in stand-up. She's very, very lucky the division doesn't have competent strikers; her game is perfect for the underdeveloped division she dominated. Great female strikers are few and far between, so it's not just Rousey's weight class at fault here, to be fair to her.

I've already said there's great kudos coming Rousey's way if she goes in and beats Nunes due to all the factors mentioned in my initial post; I don't actually have anything against her, but I maintain a spade should be called as such. Her standup is pretty suicidal for the most part, and she got away with it due to there not being the fighters out there who could actually exploit all the openings she provided.

Intimidation and fear of the clinch worked in her favour, too, so much so that her stand up was constantly overlooked because 'she got the job done' it got to the point where she started to believe the hype, or certainly fed into it for the masses.

She's fortunate there aren't any truly ferocious stand up specialists to humiliate her worse than Holm did; a Joanna or Cyborg, it would be absolute car crash TV.

I didn't expect it to be Nunes who would humiliate to such a degree even though it was obvious this was a disastrous idea from the very beginning. She would have had to been on another level initially to be out of the ring for a year and not look poor.

I think shell-shock and what might as well be called PTSD took hold of her well before any kind of strategy entered her head. It's all well and good slaughtering her dire trainers, but what happened to her out there was more a result of complete, mental collapse over anything else.

To be honest, if the fight had have gone any other way, with her just slotting seamlessly back into full-blooded combat, I would have been amazed. If even Jon Jones can't do that, the writing was always on the wall for Rousey.

Nevermind talk of MMA, she should seriously be placed on suicide watch. Her mental health was poor and obviously fragile before this fight, so for absolutely everything to go wrong like it did... one doesn't really want to imagine the possible fallout.

People hate her and the persona she has manufactured, but there's a very fragile and insecure individual at the heart of it who could be at the brink if she doesn't have good people around her to get her off that mental ledge she was already teetering over.

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Shocked at Cruz losing, but equally impressed by Garbrandt. Well done that man. Him vs. T.J. or re-matching Cruz will be a date to put in the diary.
 
I think shell-shock and what might as well be called PTSD took hold of her well
Agreed.

I'm completely convinced that every fighter has a number of shots to the head they can take before they are done competitively. Not all are created equal, and some fighters have a higher number than others, I think she's just met hers.