That bit makes no sense.
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That bit makes no sense.
It's probably the right call to strip mcgregor of the belt at this stage
Fairly pointless making another interim belt
Aldo, UFC champ for the 2nd time without having to fight anyone
Fairly pointless making another interim belt
Aldo, UFC champ for the 2nd time without having to fight anyone
early prelims about to start
should be a good one! we'll see some finishes tonight.
should be a good one! we'll see some finishes tonight.
probably to hype the PPV buys.
Yeah that'll make for a great trivia question in a few years. Awarded the title twice, weird.
Feckin Xbox doing on update
Will have to watch fightpass on my iPad now
Will have to watch fightpass on my iPad now
So is this at 7am in Australia?
10:47 am
That's not too bad
I could swear the last event they were saying it was super early over in Oz
Great opening fight so far
both guys feckedfeck i jinxed it
I think that's a harsh narrative, he beat Edgar to win the interim and the champ refused to defend his belt, and laughs off the idea of ever fighting him again whenever asked about it.
It's like saying Barao was awarded the BW title when Cruz was stripped.
Vamos Chito!!
Love watching Been Nguyen. Gonna sleep after this one and wake up for Whittaker vs. Brunson... don't really care for any other fight tonight...
I did the same mistake as i did in the McGregor-Aldo fight.
Oooook it is 5 rounds, i'll have another beer before i go to bed.
Just had a sip, then it's over... fml.
Think i'm jinxng these fights.
Oooook it is 5 rounds, i'll have another beer before i go to bed.
Just had a sip, then it's over... fml.
Think i'm jinxng these fights.
What a short but awesome fight that.
Whittaker
Whittaker
Middleweight division is surely the most stacked at the moment (maybe LW runs it close.)
Got Bisping as champion and then Romero, Rockhold, Jacare, Mousasi, Whittaker all with a case for the title or being close. Weidman could fight a couple lower ranked fighters away from being up there as well.
Aldo is the FW Champion. McGregor relinquished title and Holloway vs. Pettis is for the Interim Title.
Got Bisping as champion and then Romero, Rockhold, Jacare, Mousasi, Whittaker all with a case for the title or being close. Weidman could fight a couple lower ranked fighters away from being up there as well.
Aldo is the FW Champion. McGregor relinquished title and Holloway vs. Pettis is for the Interim Title.
Great main event
The card as a whole will go down as one with very few finishes but some pretty good fights all the same
The card as a whole will go down as one with very few finishes but some pretty good fights all the same
Got to imagine McGregor is getting at least some of what he wants if he has given up the LW belt so easily
I really think a McGregor vs Mayweather fight would be a huge and low risk move for UFC and McGregor. First of all Mayweather is 40 so it is almost certain that he won't be at his peak. Despite this of course he would be a huge favourite and it is almost certain he would win. I would expect McGregor to put everything into the training camp however perhaps Mayweather would take his foot off the gas somewhat as maybe he wouldn't see Mayweather as a credible opponent.
Also Mayweather is not a heavy puncher so I'd imagine McGregor could survive perhaps four or five rounds which would be a decent return. Also you never know if McGregor can get into Mayweather's head and he also has that vicious left hand which gives him a "punchers chance". He could make a huge amount of money from the fight as well. If (when) he loses he can also challenge Mayweather to an MMA fight which he would decline and hence can play the morale victory card in the future.
With the featherweight title gone what are the chances of this?
Also Mayweather is not a heavy puncher so I'd imagine McGregor could survive perhaps four or five rounds which would be a decent return. Also you never know if McGregor can get into Mayweather's head and he also has that vicious left hand which gives him a "punchers chance". He could make a huge amount of money from the fight as well. If (when) he loses he can also challenge Mayweather to an MMA fight which he would decline and hence can play the morale victory card in the future.
With the featherweight title gone what are the chances of this?
It was the fw title not the lw
Although UFC have said McGregor has voluntarily given it up, there are also reports that is not true at all
I think there is a storm coming
Fwiw I think UFC have made the right call. That's not to say champions haven't gone a year or more without defending before, they have plenty of times. But I don't think anyone is capable of defending two belts on a regular basis
I honestly think McGregor would do it in the morning
But Mayweather has everything to lose and nothing to gain from it. Therefore it'll never happen IMO
I would expect mayweather to win fairly handily if it ever did obviously
Aldo in particular, funnily enough.
I think it'll be funny if Pettis wins. The people who slated McGregor for not deserving a title fight at LW will be at a conundrum when a fighter who is 1-3 in his last 4 and 1-0 at FW has got a title shot and might be the champion!
I think it's fair enough they vacate the title. I think it's easy for people to whinge at McGregor and the UFC but it was to good to be true their biggest star possibly ever could be the first 2 weight champion. The circumstances starting with the RDA injury really was the start of the belt not being defended.
Difference is McGregor is healthy and fighting, just not in the division he's champion in. people excused the RDA fight and first Nate fight, that was fine but then to rematch nate instead of defend title was not right... well it was right in terms of money.
Eh? I'm not creating any narrative. Simply stating fact and that i find it weird that both times Aldo became champion he was awarded it and didn't win it in the ring.
I'm not saying i disagree with the decision, they had to do something with the FW belt as McGregor isn't fighting again for another 6-8 months and when he does it's unlikely to be at 145.
Featherweight division is a joke now. You've a champion who isn't the best 145 pound fighter, you've a true champion who appears to have little to no interest in fighting at the weight, and an interim challenger who is on a horrible loss streak.
I'd love to see Conor drop back down just to beat Aldo again before returning to lightweight.
I'd love to see Conor drop back down just to beat Aldo again before returning to lightweight.
He did win it in the ring... He beat Edgar.
Would it have made you feel better if they'd have announced the Aldo Edgar fight as a "vacant title" fight instead of interim? Because that's what it was effectively.
For some reason you seem to have gotten the idea i am criticizing the decision, which is odd as i specifically said i don't disagree with it. Its what i thought they would do, and the only sensible thing they could do given the situation with McGregor.
All i was doing was simply stating facts, Aldo was promoted to champion he didn't beat the current champion. So he didn't actually win it in the ring, he beat Edgar yes but he wasn't and has never been the 145 champ. And that was only for the interim belt. Again i'm simply stating facts.
I have no strong feelings one way or the other about Aldo being awarded the title. But lets stick to facts mate instead dreaming up scenarios. The Aldo Edgar fight wasn't for a vacant title, because the FW division had a recently crowned champ who hadn't yet given up the title. It was only for an interim belt because McGregor was meant to be fighting on the same card at 170.
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I just disagree with the statement that he was "awarded" the title. If the fight with Edgar had been called the vacant title fight you'd say he won the belt. So if he's fighting Frankie on July 9th, if Mcgregor is stripped on the 8th, Aldo has legitimately won the title. If Conor is stripped after the fight, on the 10th, then Aldo hasn't won the title, he's been awarded it and didn't win it in the ring. It's reaching a bit for me.
I'm assuming you agree that Barao never actually won the BW title either, rather awarded..
Hope Whittaker gets a top opponent for his next fight, he deserves it and he's an easy fighter to root for. Seems like a nice guy and always seems to be involved in exciting fights. As Australia and New Zealand's top fighter he should be quite marketable for the UFC too.
In fact Weidman seems like a fight that makes sense for Whittaker. A serious step up in competition for him, but a huge scalp if he can pull it off and also a chance for Weidman to get back on track after losing his last two.
In fact Weidman seems like a fight that makes sense for Whittaker. A serious step up in competition for him, but a huge scalp if he can pull it off and also a chance for Weidman to get back on track after losing his last two.
Yeah re the Aldo stuff I think it's a bit unfair to say he's been "awarded" a title both times.
The UFC FW title lineage starts in WEC. He beat Mike Brown for the title and then the UFC bought WEC and then the WEC Belt was basically no longer around. He didn't decide on that but he did win the title.
The McGregor one he has been "awarded" to an extent I suppose but McGregor was never coming down a weight. Politics got involved and it's not his fault. I think the more stupid decision is the one to have the Holloway vs. Pettis fight as an interim title fight. I'd guess it's just to increase PPV numbers by having a "Title" on the line.
I think they may want to give Weidman someone a bit easier. He's had 2 brutal knockouts and was doing alright in both fights until then. I think they may get him to fight a lower ranked guy to build some confidence around him again.
The UFC FW title lineage starts in WEC. He beat Mike Brown for the title and then the UFC bought WEC and then the WEC Belt was basically no longer around. He didn't decide on that but he did win the title.
The McGregor one he has been "awarded" to an extent I suppose but McGregor was never coming down a weight. Politics got involved and it's not his fault. I think the more stupid decision is the one to have the Holloway vs. Pettis fight as an interim title fight. I'd guess it's just to increase PPV numbers by having a "Title" on the line.
I think they may want to give Weidman someone a bit easier. He's had 2 brutal knockouts and was doing alright in both fights until then. I think they may get him to fight a lower ranked guy to build some confidence around him again.
Who's creating a narrative now mate?
The Aldo Edgar fight wasn't for a vacant title so stop pretending that it was, it was for the interim and only then because of unique circumstances. McGregor wasn't stripped before that fight he was the legitimate champ at the time. So Aldo won an interim title vs Edgar, in Aldo's opinion the interim title means nothing.
Aldo became the 145 champion because the UFC decided to make him the champ thats a fact, he didn't beat McGregor the current champ, and he didn't beat anyone for a vacant title in the ring. You can dislike the fact he was awarded the title all you want mate, and choose to imagine he became champ via alternative scenarios. But it's fact he was awarded the title, don't know why you are having a hard time accepting that.
It's no stain on Aldo's record to have been awarded the title he was the best FW for years, McGregor beat him but now has no interest in fighting him again any time soon. So the UFC had to do something with the division and i think most would agree that Aldo's the best candidate to make Champ and basically reset the division to how it was a year ago and move on from there without McGregor. Which is basically what they've done.
Yes he was also promoted to champion after winning an interim belt. Though interestingly in that situation Cruz was allowed to remain the champion for over 2 years without defending his title before being stripped. And Barao was defending the interim belt for 18 months before being promoted.
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No ones trying to downplay Aldo's first title reign. He was the WEC champ and they were folded into the UFC which had no 145 division so he was the legitimate champ, they just changed his belt basically.
Yeah they are starting to issue too many interim titles for my liking. The Jones one as well was unnecessary.
Seemed to me like you were almost taking a shot at Aldo for no apparent reason. It's a bit of a silly argument to be perfectly honest. Whether you want to keep arguing that it's a fact or not banging on about "Aldo was awarded it and didn't win it in the ring" is a bit ridiculous.
I'm pointing out how ludicrous your logic is. If Conor is stripped 2 minutes before the Edgar fight, Aldo's earned the belt in the ring. If he's stripped 2 minutes after the Edgar fight, Aldo has been gifted the belt.
The best candidate to make champ
Yeah I think most would go along with that, with him holding the title and everything.If the UFC had made Cormier's first title against Rumble an interim fight at the time we'd still be sat here today saying he's never actually won the belt in the ring, rather just gifted it. Yet he'd have followed the same path, beat the same opponents, but we can tell him he's never earned the belt in the ring because the UFC didn't have the presence of mind to strip Jones before the fight, and no matter how long he remains champ, he'll never have earned it in the ring because he never beat Jones. It's absolutely baffling logic.
I'll assume this was directed at me, no i wasn't at all i was simply commenting that in the future it will be an interesting fact to look back on that Aldo was awarded the title twice that is all. Some seem to have jumped on that innocent comment as some sort of grave insult towards Aldo which is odd as that wasn't my intention. I like Aldo have enjoyed watching him for a few years now.
Who's arguing lol?
The thing about facts are that you don't need to argue about them, they are facts.
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Weidman or Jacare would seem like good options for him. I would have said Mousasi as well but Gegard seems in the form of his life at the moment and is ready for a title shot imo.
You are not mate at all. You created an argument where there wasn't one and dreamt up little scenarios to support your imagined view of events. I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything with a series of hypothetical scenarios you are.
I don't give a feck one way or another how Aldo got the belt. This all stemmed from me saying he was awarded the belt which is a fact. But i didn't say that to have a go at Aldo or belittle him.
The best candidate to make champ
He was promoted from interim champ to full champ. He was holding the interim belt not the full one. So how did the UFC not make him champ?
One day McGregor is the champion at 145 the next day it's Aldo. Did they have a fight i'm not aware of, no they didn't the UFC made that decision.
This whole exchange has been odd as i've said nothing that i view as derogatory towards Aldo who i presume you are a fan of, what is it you are so offended by exactly? I've said 2-3 times now i have no problem with Aldo being made the full champ.
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