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shabz said:
I know it isn't fair on Cerrone but they should have made Gastelum stop cutting weight once they knew he wouldn't make it and have him re-hydrate to fight Jacare so the card wouldn't have taken a hit.
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Cerrone feck it up weighing before Kelvin. If he had waited for Gastellum to go first, he could have just rehydrate himself to reach the minimum gap.

He would have done that i think for sure but maybe didn't knew the rules of NYC... he must be pissed right now.
 
George Owen said:
yeah i always put a Accu and without some underdog its hard to really make good money.

I usually do 1 or 2 accumulators per fight night (around 7-8 fights at least) and i have lost pretty much all of them because of one fight that feck me over, usually some underdog i picked...

last week was Diego Sanchez though, i bet against him :mad:

My biggest upset was when Overeem was fighting Miocic. Got the whole card right... And after that knock-down (followed by guillotine) i was already celebrating thinking if what to do with the money. :lol::(
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I've still got Woodley on mine which is getting the decent return. Other than that it's all odds on favourites (got Conor at evens cos it has to be a KO.) Still 80 quid return if it comes in so better than nothing!
 
Mcgregor has mentioned he's lighter than the Diaz fights and Kavanagh said one week out he weighs less than he does for his 145 fights. I suppose his cardio should be better for this, but he's looking really small for LW now. If he currently weighs 160-165, he's going to be given up a fair bit of weight in any LW fights. Eddie says he steps in the cage at 173, and he's not the biggest in the division, the likes of Ferguson, Khabib and Cerrone will be huge compared to Conor.

The strength advantage may be evident on Saturday if Alavarez tries to wrestle feck him.
 
What the hell kind of camp does Gastellum have where they waste their time with him again and again whilst he fails to make weight?

It's not just him that gets fallout from this and it's unacceptable for a so-called professional to constantly let not just himself, but his entire team down. How they haven't washed their hands of him yet, I don't know.

UFC should introduce a 3-strike rule, too, where someone who is a repeat offender for not making weight is served severe penalties or simply booted out the door.

If you're not prepared to go through the hell of cutting to make weight... fight in your actual division, ffs!

Cerrone must be furious and Dana and co. should be moreso; Gastellum is notorious for these antics and it makes the company look foolish to have been duped, yet again, for one of the biggest promotions in its history.
 
Dominos said:
Mcgregor has mentioned he's lighter than the Diaz fights and Kavanagh said one week out he weighs less than he does for his 145 fights. I suppose his cardio should be better for this, but he's looking really small for LW now. If he currently weighs 160-165, he's going to be given up a fair bit of weight in any LW fights. Eddie says he steps in the cage at 173, and he's not the biggest in the division, the likes of Ferguson, Khabib and Cerrone will be huge compared to Conor.

The strength advantage may be evident on Saturday if Alavarez tries to wrestle feck him.
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How much can he really improve his cardio with such short turn arounds between fights? Can see him still dipping after a couple of rounds.

McGregor does still have a fair reach advantage over Alvarez, I think. Eddie is gonna get tagged a fair bit.
 
How is Woodley the underdog in his fight? I mean, I really rate wonder boy but Woodley is an animal. If he catches Thompson with one of his haymakers it's going to be an early night for him.
 
sullydnl said:
How much can he really improve his cardio with such short turn arounds between fights? Can see him still dipping after a couple of rounds.

McGregor does still have a fair reach advantage over Alvarez, I think. Eddie is gonna get tagged a fair bit.
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Athletes in all sports gain fitness very quickly. It's the one aspect that can be fixed in a relatively short period of time.
 
sullydnl said:
How much can he really improve his cardio with such short turn arounds between fights? Can see him still dipping after a couple of rounds.

McGregor does still have a fair reach advantage over Alvarez, I think. Eddie is gonna get tagged a fair bit.
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Well he started his new cardio training after the first Nate fight so he's had 8 months of working on it, and he was carrying a fair bit more weight in those Nate fights than he will in this by the sounds of things.

I suggested previously there's no reason he'll have better cardio at 155 because he'll likely still weigh around 168 except having gone through a weight cut and rehydration, but it appears they have taken a different approach and decided to slim down. But again if that approach means he weighs 160 pounds in the cage he's definitely small for the division.
 
Oggmonster said:
Be the 3rd time Gastelum has missed weight in 8 UFC fights, pretty poor really. I don't get how they can miss weight by that much especially not for a card this size. It's just poor.
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Crazy thing is that the fight between Hendricks and him got made considering how infamous them 2 are for missing weight.
 
Fracture90 said:
Crazy thing is that the fight between Hendricks and him got made considering how infamous them 2 are for missing weight.
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And Hendricks missed weight then didn't he? :lol:

Dana has said he can never fight at welterweight again. I wish he'd just feck him off to be honest.
 
Vato said:
How is Woodley the underdog in his fight? I mean, I really rate wonder boy but Woodley is an animal. If he catches Thompson with one of his haymakers it's going to be an early night for him.
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my predictions are normally terrible

But I dont see any chance for Woodley. Reckon Wonderboy will pick him apart quite easily
 
George Owen said:
yep, karolina is super tough but probably gonna be unanimous decision for the champ. Karolina would need to connect some good stuff early on the first round if she wants to have a chance.
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YeH I'm think UD too, but 50-45. But maybe even a 10-8 or two in there too
 
Tom Van Persie said:
Why is Eddie so tilted by Conor's fans? He was so annoyed in that interview :lol:
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I'm surprised it's got to him so much, he looked really rattled there. Before i thought he was just pissed off with it but now it looks like they've got in his head.
 
Randall Flagg said:
Didnt Lineker miss the bantamweight limit in his last fight?
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You're right. I forgot about that. All the more reason it was a good idea to never let him back to flyweight I guess! He should never be missing the bantamweight limit, just poor form on his part but at least in that division he only missed by a pound rather than 10.
 
Oh dear..just saw the highlights from the press conference.

Thought the Irish were meant to be self-deprecating, down-to-earth folks - how has this greedy, self-centred gobshite become their hero?
 
Vato said:
How is Woodley the underdog in his fight? I mean, I really rate wonder boy but Woodley is an animal. If he catches Thompson with one of his haymakers it's going to be an early night for him.
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Explosiveness vs. Brilliance...

You've pretty much answered your own question as to why WB is the favourite - the 'if' is the huge factor in this fight and pretty much everyone thinks if Woodley can't tag WB quick and early, he stands no chance whatsoever.

WB is a special fighter with seamless technique, transitions and great intuitive movement. It's a a massive risk for Woodley to take the fight to WB and potentilly walk into something that will use his own momentum going in to K.O. him. Equally, the question is whether WB has the speed and reflexes to avoid Woodley's explosiveness in the opening 2 rounds.

I can't see this fight lasting more than 3 rounds, personally. Woodley will be extremely tenative and then try and explode when he believes there's an opening, but WB's kicks and range will force action or simply end the fight. I think Woodley would rather go out and decide things one way or the other over being picked apart from distance, so one of these guys is going to get knocked out.

If Woodley wins this, he'll silence his critics who call him a paper champ etc. if Wonderboy wins it, there won't be much surprise especially as he has been tipped to dominate the division once(if) he gets his hands on the belt.

It's a very interesting fight and the one I'm looking forward to the most on the whole card.
 
Fortitude said:
Explosiveness vs. Brilliance...

You've pretty much answered your own question as to why WB is the favourite - the 'if' is the huge factor in this fight and pretty much everyone thinks if Woodley can't tag WB quick and early, he stands no chance whatsoever.

WB is a special fighter with seamless technique, transitions and great intuitive movement. It's a a massive risk for Woodley to take the fight to WB and potentilly walk into something that will use his own momentum going in to K.O. him. Equally, the question is whether WB has the speed and reflexes to avoid Woodley's explosiveness in the opening 2 rounds.

I can't see this fight lasting more than 3 rounds, personally. Woodley will be extremely tenative and then try and explode when he believes there's an opening, but WB's kicks and range will force action or simply end the fight. I think Woodley would rather go out and decide things one way or the other over being picked apart from distance, so one of these guys is going to get knocked out.

If Woodley wins this, he'll silence his critics who call him a paper champ etc. if Wonderboy wins it, there won't be much surprise especially as he has been tipped to dominate the division once(if) he gets his hands on the belt.

It's a very interesting fight and the one I'm looking forward to the most on the whole card.
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I agree on most things but how is Thompson's ground game and takedown defense? We've never really seen him on the ground in a fight, at least not that I can remember.

Very interesting fight indeed but I can honestly not see past a Woodley win. That's why I think it's weird that he's the underdog.
 
Vato said:
I agree on most things but how is Thompson's ground game and takedown defense? We've never really seen him on the ground in a fight, at least not that I can remember.

Very interesting fight indeed but I can honestly not see past a Woodley win. That's why I think it's weird that he's the underdog.
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His first fight in MMA vs. Matt Brown he was taken down quite often and he had no ground game but that was expected since he had nowhere near enough Tim to work on his ground game.

But since then he's training with Chris Wiedman under Ray Longo and Matt Serra so I'm guessing his groun game has improved heavily.

His fight against McDonald showed how his takedown defense has improved massively but than again Woodley is quite faster and helluva more explosive than Rory.

Wonderboy has that slickness, he's very light on his feet, quite illusive and his angles are unbelievable. He can hit you from craziest of angles.

But than again Woodley is explosive, has great ground game and that right hand from hell.

Should be a great fight. I can see it easily going into championship rounds with Wonderboy being awkward and frustrating Woodley with his movement and illusiveness.

Both fighters have their issues. Wonderboy's weakness is his ground game whilst Woodley's gas tank was always under question.
 
I don't think Wonderboy is going to be dominating the division. Simply because if he is put in there with Maia he will be choked out within 2 minutes. I think the UFC knows it too which is why they've kept them apart. However if the UFC continue to feck Maia over then maybe as he is getting rather old. Very few at 170 have good enough takedown defence to stop Maia and many of those who've tried were strong wrestlers. Thompson basically stands no chance unless he can catch a really quick KO.
 
justboy68 said:
I don't think Wonderboy is going to be dominating the division. Simply because if he is put in there with Maia he will be chocked out within 2 minutes. I think the UFC knows it too which is why they've kept them apart. However if the UFC continue to feck Maia over then maybe.
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Maia and Jacare are too dangerous and too unattractive for UFC to become champions IMO. That's why they always get feked over by UFC.
 
Ronda really doesn't help herself. I know there's fight promotion etc and she may be trying to keep this mystique up or something but she just seems such a dick. At least JJ and Conor stick around and talk, Dana tried keeping her on stage and she still just stormed off.

Conor was going at it backstage with Woodley and Khabib





Probably very aware there's cameras there filming his every move, either way he'd get killed by Woodley pretty quickly.
 
stevoc said:
I'm surprised it's got to him so much, he looked really rattled there. Before i thought he was just pissed off with it but now it looks like they've got in his head.
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The best thing to do is just accept that the Irish fans are fecking mental and focus on the fight. I also noticed before he even stepped onto the scales he was already looking across the stage to see what Conor was doing. He really has got into his head.
 
Oggmonster said:
Ronda really doesn't help herself. I know there's fight promotion etc and she may be trying to keep this mystique up or something but she just seems such a dick. At least JJ and Conor stick around and talk, Dana tried keeping her on stage and she still just stormed off.

Conor was going at it backstage with Woodley and Khabib





Probably very aware there's cameras there filming his every move, either way he'd get killed by Woodley pretty quickly.
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Every time I gain some respect for Conor after one of his fights, I lose it back after shit like this.
 
Tom Van Persie said:
The best thing to do is just accept that the Irish fans are fecking mental and focus on the fight. I also noticed before he even stepped onto the scales he was already looking across the stage to see what Conor was doing. He really has got into his head.
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I don't know about the getting into the head stuff. It seems to be said about most Conor's fights. Most these fighters have cut weight so are probably pissed off and grouchy anyway. I think they're probably just pumped up by it all. I agree he seems slightly annoyed but I don't know if it's cos Conor is in hsi head or anything, more just ready to fight.

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Every time I gain some respect for Conor after one of his fights, I lose it back after shit like this.
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McGregor seems to of taken exception to Woodley's video about McGregor being ready to fight but doing the whole "hold me back" thing. It's funny cos he's basically doing the same thing to Woodley here! Woodley's reaction is good though just doesn't really give a shit and it seems to agitate Conor even more. As per above I'm sure they're all pretty pissed off during these moments cos the weight cut and being so close to fight day.
 
McGregor looked scared of Khabib... didn't say a word in that video... maybe he did prior but we all know he don't want a piece of that eagle. Clever move staying on Woodley though, planting seeds...
 
Dirty Schwein said:
McGregor looked scared of Khabib... didn't say a word in that video... maybe he did prior but we all know he don't want a piece of that eagle. Clever move staying on Woodley though, planting seeds...
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Everyone want's a piece of Conor, that's why he has gone out on the offensive this week. He's smart, he is setting up options for all of his future fights. Trying to gauge which fight the fans want to see the most next, it's always about trying to get the most money possible. It's incredibly smart and you can't really hate him for trying to make a fortune before it is too late considering the money woes of 90% of the UFC roster.
 
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