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To think that so many kids look up to him and will be acting like pricks too thinking it's the cool thing to do.... depressing.
 
Vato said:
To think that so many kids look up to him and will be acting like pricks too thinking it's the cool thing to do.... depressing.
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He doesn't ask to be a role model though. Can't put that on him, that's the parents reaponsibility.
 
He should concentrate a bit more on the fight he's got ahead of him this weekend. His confrontations just seem to be escalating and escalating like he's beginning to lose control a bit. Could be in for a rude awakening...

P.s It's funny how the slightest thing any of his opponents do is seen as 'conor being in his head'. Yet when Conor starts acting like a massive eejit at the slightest thing, he's apparently a genius in the perfect mental state.
 
Vato said:
But he is. He is a role model to millions of kids entering MMA. It's just a bad name for the sport in general imo.
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Don't get me wrong he may well be a role model but I think it's unfair to criticise him for how he acts because of that. Him and the majority of other sports starts or celebrities don't ask to be role models. He's never claimed to be a nice guy, he's never asked to be looked up to or for people to like him. They just so happen to do so. I don't think you can criticise any celebrity for not being a role model really. They just so happen to be famous and it's a bit unfair on them.

Kids may aspire to be him in the ring and that's fair enough but it's a parents job to tell kids that McGregor acts a bit of a cnut outside the ring and filter it. Equally they could watch him outside the fight hype and he does genuinely seem a nice guy. There's been plenty of videos this week of him with fans and the police and he's very humble. He's arguably one of the most famous sports people on the planet and seems to have time for his fans which is very admirable, a lot of people are quick to bin them off and ignore them.

justboy68 said:
He should concentrate a bit more on the fight he's got ahead of him this weekend. His confrontations just seem to be escalating and escalating like he's beginning to lose control a bit. Could be in for a rude awakening...

P.s It's funny how the slightest thing any of his opponents do is seen as 'conor being in his head'. Yet when Conor starts acting like a massive eejit at the slightest thing, he's apparently a genius in the perfect mental state.
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Agree with this. I can't recall people ever getting in each others heads. They may get pissed off with each other but not as much as people imply. Froch vs. Groves is an example of getting in someones head, I can't recall many in the UFC like that in recent years.
 
Ting is, whether we agree or not, sports stars, actors, musicians etc are role models, it's part and parcel of their fame. they get media training for a reason. of course, ideally, you want kids to look up to people like Obama or Einstein or whoever but the truth is, children and teenagers will generally watch films, sports or listen to music as they develop and therefore the stars of these things have to behave professionally.
 
Dirty Schwein said:
McGregor looked scared of Khabib... didn't say a word in that video... maybe he did prior but we all know he don't want a piece of that eagle. Clever move staying on Woodley though, planting seeds...
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Woodley was mouthing about Conor on twitter, about how he wouldn't say it to his face etc.
Khabib cost Conor a few million when he tried to get the Eddie fight, i think he even boasted about it but I'm not sure I'm remembering that correctly.
 
Sports stars are role models but that doesn't mean that they have to actually behave like good role models. That's the parents' problem, not theirs.

Plus I'm sure McGregor could point to various positive traits he represents to, if he was so inclined.
 
:lol: What is it with McGregor that he behaves like a cnut but you aren't allowed to call him a cnut? It's really weird..
 
Dirty Schwein said:
Ting is, whether we agree or not, sports stars, actors, musicians etc are role models, it's part and parcel of their fame. they get media training for a reason. of course, ideally, you want kids to look up to people like Obama or Einstein or whoever but the truth is, children and teenagers will generally watch films, sports or listen to music as they develop and therefore the stars of these things have to behave professionally.
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I'm not disputing they will be role models but it is unfair to judge sports stars for living how they choose to and talking/acting how they want to because of the position they're in.

Using McGregor as an example he is very good at his trade. If kids want to look up to him inside the octagon then that's fine he is a 2 weight champion and they could learn a lot from him but I've never heard him say he's a role model for kids or anything close to that so why judge him for it? Again it's on the parents who their kids look up to.

Vato said:
:lol: What is it with McGregor that he behaves like a cnut but you aren't allowed to call him a cnut? It's really weird..
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Who said you can't call him a cnut? The debate was whether it's fair to judge them on being role models. It's all a bit Maude Flanders getting outraged "won't someone think of the children" cos he gave someone some shit. I don't think any athlete or celebrity should be judged on being role models unless the actively say they are a role model. Do you get outraged when Pete Doherty goes on coke binges and goes missing for days cos he didn't think of his children fans and they might go and do the same? Or when people are caught driving 100 miles an hour plus? It's who they are and they never asked to be judged on it. They just so happen to be famous.

Think Conor is a cnut all you want, there's plenty of examples of him being one and it's no bother to me if you think it.

I'd argue it's just as weird that the common theme with McGregor is if someone just so happens to like him or disagrees with people thinking he's done something cnutish then they're automiatically "weird" or a "fan boy" etc. Maybe they're just not as outraged as others? Again there's plenty of examples of him being a cnut but I don't think it's fair to call him one cos someones kid might have an attitude problem. Blame the parents not the random famous guy.
 
McGregOggmonster said:
Who said you can't call him a cnut? The debate was whether it's fair to judge them on being role models. It's all a bit Maude Flanders getting outraged "won't someone think of the children" cos he gave someone some shit. I don't think any athlete or celebrity should be judged on being role models unless the actively say they are a role model. Do you get outraged when Pete Doherty goes on coke binges and goes missing for days cos he didn't think of his children fans and they might go and do the same? Or when people are caught driving 100 miles an hour plus? It's who they are and they never asked to be judged on it. They just so happen to be famous.

Think Conor is a cnut all you want, there's plenty of examples of him being one and it's no bother to me if you think it.

I'd argue it's just as weird that the common theme with McGregor is if someone just so happens to like him or disagrees with people thinking he's done something cnutish then they're automiatically "weird" or a "fan boy" etc. Maybe they're just not as outraged as others? Again there's plenty of examples of him being a cnut but I don't think it's fair to call him one cos someones kid might have an attitude problem. Blame the parents not the random famous guy.
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:lol: What the hell are you on about, man? Calm down. I'm not saying he's a cnut cos someone's kid has attitude problems, I'm saying he's a cnut because he acts like a cnut all the fecking time.

A depressing downside of acting like a bully in public all the time is that a lot of kids are going to act just the same seeing as he's got such a huge following. That's all I'm saying.
 
Oggmonster said:
I'm not disputing they will be role models but it is unfair to judge sports stars for living how they choose to and talking/acting how they want to because of the position they're in.

Using McGregor as an example he is very good at his trade. If kids want to look up to him inside the octagon then that's fine he is a 2 weight champion and they could learn a lot from him but I've never heard him say he's a role model for kids or anything close to that so why judge him for it? Again it's on the parents who their kids look up to.
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That's a very simplistic and unrealistic way of thinking... as you know, you can tell kids things, didn't mean they'll always listen... it's why idiots like Kanye West and Taylor Swift are so popular. Imagine an Irish kid who got into MMA during the McGregor era. doesn't matter what his or her parents say about McGregor, they'll still idolize him and might behave like him.
 
Vato said:
:lol: What the hell are you on about, man? Calm down. I'm not saying he's a cnut cos someone's kid has attitude problems, I'm saying he's a cnut because he acts like a cnut all the fecking time.

A depressing downside of acting like a bully in public all the time is that a lot of kids are going to act just the same seeing as he's got such a huge following. That's all I'm saying.
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I'm not annoyed in the slightest don't worry, it doesn't really bother me if people dislike someone I don't know. Just cos I disagreed with you doesn't mean I'm annoyed at all.

Again, who said you can't call him a cnut? No one said that. Call him what you want it's completely up to you. The topic being discussed was whether he was a role model. Started by you saying:

Vato said:
To think that so many kids look up to him and will be acting like pricks too thinking it's the cool thing to do.... depressing.
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The discussion was whether he is a role model or not. No one even debated he can be a dick. I think he can be but I still find him entertaining to watch.

Maybe something got lost in posting but at the time you said about people calling him a cnut literally no one had said anything about it. Just seems odd timing more than anything.

You're well within your rights to dislike him. I personally don't think it's fair to put it on famous people to behave all the time in case a kid is watching.
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Dirty Schwein said:
That's a very simplistic and unrealistic way of thinking... as you know, you can tell kids things, didn't mean they'll always listen... it's why idiots like Kanye West and Taylor Swift are so popular. Imagine an Irish kid who got into MMA during the McGregor era. doesn't matter what his or her parents say about McGregor, they'll still idolize him and might behave like him.
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What's Taylor Swift done?! If an Irish kid got into MMA in the sense where they trained it I'd be surprised if any gym encouraged them to act like McGregor outside of fighting. They'd probably actively discourage it.

What we see of McGregor in these press conferences etc is an act. It's just for show. I doubt he goes round booting off with random people in the streets. When you see him on The Mac Life etc he's pretty normal and down to earth.

Even after fights win or loss he's humble. It's all opinions at the end of the day but I think the treatment a lot of celebrities get is pretty shit in general. They're allowed to live their lives how they choose to. They were never asked to be put in that position. People are obsessed with building them up just to shoot them back down again and that's not just exclusive to McGregor.
 
Tom Van Persie said:
The best thing to do is just accept that the Irish fans are fecking mental and focus on the fight. I also noticed before he even stepped onto the scales he was already looking across the stage to see what Conor was doing. He really has got into his head.
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Yeah i don't think it's not so much Connor's nonsense that is getting to him, i reckon it's more the fans booing him.
 
Oggmonster said:
What's Taylor Swift done?! If an Irish kid got into MMA in the sense where they trained it I'd be surprised if any gym encouraged them to act like McGregor outside of fighting. They'd probably actively discourage it.

What we see of McGregor in these press conferences etc is an act. It's just for show. I doubt he goes round booting off with random people in the streets. When you see him on The Mac Life etc he's pretty normal and down to earth.

Even after fights win or loss he's humble. It's all opinions at the end of the day but I think the treatment a lot of celebrities get is pretty shit in general. They're allowed to live their lives how they choose to. They were never asked to be put in that position. People are obsessed with building them up just to shoot them back down again and that's not just exclusive to McGregor.
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Taylor Swift is a discussion for another day! I agree that McGregor seems like a cool dude away from press conferences and promotional material but these are the things people would see him most in... The Mac Life and things like that you have to actively seek it... promo material is pushed in your face.

As for celebs, they should be aware of what they're getting into. They get paid hefty (not most MMA stars though) to not only perform in their chosen art but also to be a celebrity, a face and unfortunately, a role model. Sponsorship and advertising deals prove that.
 
Dirty Schwein said:
That's a very simplistic and unrealistic way of thinking... as you know, you can tell kids things, didn't mean they'll always listen... it's why idiots like Kanye West and Taylor Swift are so popular. Imagine an Irish kid who got into MMA during the McGregor era. doesn't matter what his or her parents say about McGregor, they'll still idolize him and might behave like him.
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If someone's kid grows up to act like a cnut that will largely be down to a failure in parenting, parents can't blame people on TV for shit like that.

Vato said:
To think that so many kids look up to him and will be acting like pricks too thinking it's the cool thing to do.... depressing.
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McGregor gets locked in a cage and punches and kicks people in the head for a living and regularly uses foul language in press conferences/interviews, probably not the best idea for patents to let young impressionable kids watch this type of thing in the first place never mind idolize someone who is involved in it.
 
The fundamental problem is all of these behind the scenes videos are so obviously staged for hype to draw in more PPV at 205. The UFC's reliance on Conor is getting a bit ridiculous in terms of the bottle throwing, chair throwing, belt grabbing, fake backstage confrontation videos etc etc.

Can't we just get back to fighting in the Octagon without the rabid infatuation with hype, money, and over commercialization.
 
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stevoc said:
McGregor gets locked in a cage and punches and kicks people in the head for a living and regularly uses foul language in press conferences/interviews, probably not the best idea for patents to let young impressionable kids watch this type of thing in the first place never mind idolize someone who is involved in it.
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All this is true, but do you think it won't happen? Of course millions of kids, especially those into MMA, will see this.
 
Dirty Schwein said:
Taylor Swift is a discussion for another day! I agree that McGregor seems like a cool dude away from press conferences and promotional material but these are the things people would see him most in... The Mac Life and things like that you have to actively seek it... promo material is pushed in your face.

As for celebs, they should be aware of what they're getting into. They get paid hefty (not most MMA stars though) to not only perform in their chosen art but also to be a celebrity, a face and unfortunately, a role model. Sponsorship and advertising deals prove that.
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Can't beat a bit of Tay Tay!!

I think in fairness with kids if they're big McGregor fans they'd probably watch the Mac Life stuff for the large part. It's not hard to find it and YouTube is the biggest platform for videos there's ever been. Kids who have been brought up to it will be able to find this kind of stuff easily (McGregor also constantly retweets the stuff.)

I remember reading something about kids or people being influenced by celebrities and what they do. The theory was these people were always going to be dicks whether the celeb was or not. Seeing someone do something similar just sped up the process.
 
I'll be honest though, I just realised that it's a bit hypocritical from me to dislike him for these reasons as I've always liked the Diaz brothers. But I don't know, with Conor it feels fake and over the top, I'm not a fan of his antics.
 
Oggmonster said:
Agree with this. I can't recall people ever getting in each others heads. They may get pissed off with each other but not as much as people imply. Froch vs. Groves is an example of getting in someones head, I can't recall many in the UFC like that in recent years.
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I hate armchair psychology too, but I think Poirier admitted Conor got to him. And I'd bet Aldo was too.

I can't see anything making Alvarez deviate from his gameplan though, he'll push him against the cage and try take him down for 5 rounds.
 
Vato said:
I'll be honest though, I just realised that it's a bit hypocritical from me to dislike him for these reasons as I've always liked the Diaz brothers. But I don't know, with Conor it feels fake and over the top, I'm not a fan of his antics.
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Haha yeah there's a few like it, just not as forward I think! I can see the point re Conor cos it is quite clearly an act. The Diaz brothers are somewhat of an act but I imagine it's just them turned up to 11. They're probably similar whether there's cameras or not. I'd guess Conor is nothing like his persona in front of a camera, he's even a lot more calm when he's not promoting stuff and just giving normal interviews.

I think the worst of em all is Cruz to be honest, he's a bit of a dick even after a fight. The stuff after Faber 3 was a bit off putting for me, basicaly carried on giving him shit for no reason. The guy seems to have a massive chip on his shoulder at all times.

Dominos said:
I hate armchair psychology too, but I think Poirier admitted Conor got to him. And I'd bet Aldo was too.

I can't see anything making Alvarez deviate from his gameplan though, he'll push him against the cage and try take him down for 5 rounds.
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Yeah Poirier is a good shout actually, forgot about that. I've always been unsure with Aldo cos the fight was that quick you can never judge really. I suppose the fact they promoted that long (cos of Aldo injury) they're bound to piss each other off somewhere down the line.
 
Raoul said:
The fundamental problem is all of these behind the scenes videos are so obviously staged for hype to draw in more PPV at 205. The UFC's reliance on Conor is getting a bit ridiculous in terms of the bottle throwing, chair throwing, belt grabbing, fake backstage confrontation videos etc etc.

Can't we just get back to fighting in the Octagon without the rabid infatuation with hype, money, and over commercialization.
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Well said.
 
Oggmonster said:
Cage Warriors is on before 205 tonight lads just to let you know. Paddy Pimblett vs. Julian Erosa is the main event
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That sounds like a friend of Winnie the Pooh. Not going to strike much fear in the heart of your enemies with a name like that.
 
Vato said:
I'll be honest though, I just realised that it's a bit hypocritical from me to dislike him for these reasons as I've always liked the Diaz brothers. But I don't know, with Conor it feels fake and over the top, I'm not a fan of his antics.
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It feels fake and OTT because it is fake and OTT. That's why I don't particularly think of him as being a cnut. The cuntishness is too fake for me to take it as an accurate representation of his personality.

I do find the act extremely tedious and predictable at this point though. This week's stuff was particularly bad as it wasn't even slightly funny, just annoyingly obnoxious.
 
Vato said:
That sounds like a friend of Winnie the Pooh. Not going to strike much fear in the heart of your enemies with a name like that.
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You mean he doesn't intimidate you?!?

To be fair to him though he is good and worth watching. Talked up as the next big thing in UK MMA. Been calls for UFC to sign him and I think they did offer him a deal but he turned it down.
 
Oggmonster said:
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You mean he doesn't intimidate you?!?

To be fair to him though he is good and worth watching. Talked up as the next big thing in UK MMA. Been calls for UFC to sign him and I think they did offer him a deal but he turned it down.
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This lesbian would kick seven shades of shit out of me with one hand tied behind his back. I'm tough as nails behind the comfort of my pc though.
 
Vato said:
This lesbian would kick seven shades of shit out of me with one hand tied behind his back. I'm tough as nails behind the comfort of my pc though.
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Haha he's worth watching to be honest mate entertaining even if doesn't look the part! He's fighting Julian erosa who was on the McGregor vs faber TUF
 
Looking forward to Paddy Pimblett

If he wins tonight he will surely be snapped up. Has potential to be a real personality too
 
Looking forward to UFC tonight, it's a good card although i'm looking forward to the all-Polish fight most, both good fighters. I always enjoy the announcers and commentators butchering Polish names and places, makes me laugh.
 
sullydnl said:
It feels fake and OTT because it is fake and OTT. That's why I don't particularly think of him as being a cnut. The cuntishness is too fake for me to take it as an accurate representation of his personality.

I do find the act extremely tedious and predictable at this point though. This week's stuff was particularly bad as it wasn't even slightly funny, just annoyingly obnoxious.
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I've never seen the appeal of watching a weigh-ins or press conferences so the really pantomime shit is easily avoided. I'd like him to tone it down a bit on social media, though. Of course I should probably just stop following him. So that's on me too.
 
Randall Flagg said:
OK prediction time. I want result and how you think they will win

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Main card

McGregor by KO in round 3
Woodley by TKO in round 2
Kowalkiewicz by submission in round 2
Romero KO in round 1
Tate by Split decision

Preliminary card FS1

Edgar by Unanimous decision
Nurmagomedov by submission in round 1
Boetsch by TKO in round 2
Muhammed by split decision

Preliminary card fight pass

Alves by TKO in round 1
Chookagian TKO in round 3

 
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Main Card (on Pay-Per-View):
Eddie Alvarez (28-4) vs. Conor McGregor (20-3) - TKO 2nd round
Tyron Woodley (16-3) vs. Stephen Thompson (13-1) - UD
Joanna Jedrzejczyk (12-0) vs. Karolina Kowalkiewicz (10-0) - UD
Chris Weidman (13-1) vs. Yoel Romero (12-1) - Sub 3rd Round
Miesha Tate (18-6) vs. Raquel Pennington (8-5) - UD

Preliminary Card (on FS1):
Frankie Edgar (20-5-1) vs. Jeremy Stephens (25-12) - UD
Khabib Nurmagomedov (23-0) vs. Michael Johnson (18-10) - UD
Rafael Natal (21-7-1) vs. Tim Boetsch (19-10) - UD
Vicente Luque (10-5-1) vs. Belal Muhammad (10-1) - TKO 1st round

Preliminary Card (on UFC Fight Pass):
Jim Miller (27-8) vs. Thiago Alves (21-10) - UD
Liz Carmouche (10-5) vs. Katlyn Chookagian (8-0) - UD
 
Pogue Mahone said:
I've never seen the appeal of watching a weigh-ins or press conferences so the really pantomime shit is easily avoided. I'd like him to tone it down a bit on social media, though. Of course I should probably just stop following him. So that's on me too.
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Same, it's all a show and has no appeal for me.
 
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