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Would be ridiculous if Nick Diaz got the fight. I really can't see that happening at all. There's no logical explanation for it. Even Henderson they could sell on the "Revenge" angle, this one is just weird.

I think they'll still wait til after Weidman fights to announce anything, if Weidman goes in and dominates Romero they'll want him as Number 1 contender and rightfully so, it's a much bigger fight than Jacare.
 
Raoul said:
Hehe...Bisping won't want to fight anyone who can beat him so he'll likely continue to run scared from the likes of Rockhold, Weidman, and Romero. His latest project is apparently wanting to fight Nick Diaz who hasn't won a fight in 5 years and GSP who hasn't fought in 3.
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Bisping really understands the "money fight era" the UFC seems to be in right now and tries to take full advantage of it.
 
Mark_GrumpyLion said:
Bisping really understands the "money fight era" the UFC seems to be in right now and tries to take full advantage of it.
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Yeah I agree. He is in full "I need to make as much money as I possibly can while I'm still the Champ" mode. Can't blame the guy for wanting to take care of his family and post MMA future. On the other hand, its complete BS to hold the rest of the division hostage like that. Same as with McGregor and FW.
 
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Seems like her hearts not in it. nunes will beat her I feel. but whether she wins or loses I think she's out.
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She seems a little tired of the crazy build up to fights, the weeks/months you have to wait and the stuff you have to go through in the lead in to it. And in fairness to her it's not like she hasn't previously worked her ass off, as far as Dana is concerned nobody has worked as hard as her over the last few years and I think that's probably a fair statement considering how big of a star she is and how she's had to play the biggest role in making Women's MMA possible on the level/stage it's now at.

I don't think it's so much that her hearts not in it, she's just mentally at that stage where she's not far off calling it a day. The pressure and work eventually takes it's toll. Personally I don't think it'll effect her performance. Even if she's at that stage of being close to retiring, Ronda isn't a person that goes in there and does something half assed. She'll be on come fight night against Nunes, no doubt in my mind.

After that, Cyborg and/or Holm granted she beats Nunes. I don't think she retires on the back of beating Nunes, she'll want to prove one final point against one of the two I mentioned. Obviously this all hinges on her beating Nunes which I believe she will, but this is the fight game, anything can happen.
 
Yeah I don't get the "holding division hostage" stuff. It gets thrown around so much these days as well.

Bisping defended the title within 4 months of winning it. He's willing to defend it again in December in a "Money fight" whilst the other contenders fight each other. A fight with Rockhold/Weidman/Jacara/Romero was never getting made for 206 were never fighting at 206 considering 2 are fighting at 205 and the others are fighting 2 weeks before the event. Him fighting at 206 and winning would never of slowed down a potential fight against the above 4 if it was to happen at the time it was scheduled to. I.e. 209/210 or something similar. People are slating him without the fight even being made. Maybe I'm bias myself but I can see his logic to be honest, he probably knows deep down he'll lose the title if he fights a top level fighter so might as well cash in against people he has a good chance against (Diaz) and make good money there, fight later on against a contender at a scheduled event and probably lose. It's not his fault them 4 fighters were booked close to 206. Equally people seemed excited about the clashes and now 1 is off, again due to no ones fault but AKAs training regime I'd guess, he's cherry picking and ducking. I've not got the interview to hand but he even said when asked he was basically taking them fights to make some good money and would then fight a realistic fighter once it's all sorted out. He may be a ducker but at least give him the opportunity.

For comparison Weidman defended his title roughly ever 7ish months, Rockhold defended it after 6 months and Anderson averaged about once every 6 months (although early on there was phases where he fought every 3-4 months.)

It's surely to early to tell if Bisping is holding a division hostage. He could potentially fight 3 times in 9 months. Equally it got announced 24 hours ago that Rockhold was injured and people slate Bisping already, just see what happens first.
 
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Tbf to Bisping I guess his argument would be that Diaz would be a sort of bonus fight as he has to wait for the proper contenders to fight first anyway.

Of course that was before Jacare became free.
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Oggmonster said:
Yeah I don't get the "holding division hostage" stuff. It gets thrown around so much these days as well.

Bisping defended the title within 4 months of winning it. He's willing to defend it again in December in a "Money fight" whilst the other contenders fight each other. A fight with Rockhold/Weidman/Jacara/Romero was never getting made for 206 were never fighting at 206 considering 2 are fighting at 205 and the others are fighting 2 weeks before the event. Him fighting at 206 and winning would never of slowed down a potential fight against the above 4 if it was to happen at the time it was scheduled to. I.e. 209/210 or something similar. People are slating him without the fight even being made. Maybe I'm bias myself but I can see his logic to be honest, he probably knows deep down he'll lose the title if he fights a top level fighter so might as well cash in against people he has a good chance against (Diaz) and make good money there, fight later on against a contender at a scheduled event and probably lose. It's not his fault them 4 fighters were booked close to 206. Equally people seemed excited about the clashes and now 1 is off, again due to no ones fault but AKAs training regime I'd guess, he's cherry picking and ducking. I've not got the interview to hand but he even said when asked he was basically taking them fights to make some good money and would then fight a realistic fighter once it's all sorted out. He may be a ducker but at least give him the opportunity.

For comparison Weidman defended his title roughly ever 7ish months, Rockhold defended it after 6 months and Anderson averaged about once every 6 months (although early on there was phases where he fought every 3-4 months.)

It's surely to early to tell if Bisping is holding a division hostage. He could potentially fight 3 times in 9 months. Equally it got announced 24 hours ago that Rockhold was injured and people slate Bisping already, just see what happens first.
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i agree with all this. Any fight that Bisping wanted for 206 make sense because all the contenders gonna be busy fighting each other.

But now the circumstances have changed. Jacare is available to fight so he should get the preference over any other money fight.

if he wants to avoid Jacare now because it wont bring him the most money, then too bad for him. It should be either that (Fight Jacare), or wait for the winner of Weidman/Gay Jesus. No other option makes sense now.
 
Oggmonster said:
Yeah I don't get the "holding division hostage" stuff. It gets thrown around so much these days as well.

Bisping defended the title within 4 months of winning it. He's willing to defend it again in December in a "Money fight" whilst the other contenders fight each other. A fight with Rockhold/Weidman/Jacara/Romero was never getting made for 206 were never fighting at 206 considering 2 are fighting at 205 and the others are fighting 2 weeks before the event. Him fighting at 206 and winning would never of slowed down a potential fight against the above 4 if it was to happen at the time it was scheduled to. I.e. 209/210 or something similar. People are slating him without the fight even being made. Maybe I'm bias myself but I can see his logic to be honest, he probably knows deep down he'll lose the title if he fights a top level fighter so might as well cash in against people he has a good chance against (Diaz) and make good money there, fight later on against a contender at a scheduled event and probably lose. It's not his fault them 4 fighters were booked close to 206. Equally people seemed excited about the clashes and now 1 is off, again due to no ones fault but AKAs training regime I'd guess, he's cherry picking and ducking. I've not got the interview to hand but he even said when asked he was basically taking them fights to make some good money and would then fight a realistic fighter once it's all sorted out. He may be a ducker but at least give him the opportunity.

For comparison Weidman defended his title roughly ever 7ish months, Rockhold defended it after 6 months and Anderson averaged about once every 6 months (although early on there was phases where he fought every 3-4 months.)

It's surely to early to tell if Bisping is holding a division hostage. He could potentially fight 3 times in 9 months. Equally it got announced 24 hours ago that Rockhold was injured and people slate Bisping already, just see what happens first.
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Its not how often he defends the belt, its who he fights. There was zero justification for fighting Henderson when there are about 5 fighters more qualified in the pecking order. And if the Hendo fight wasn't enough of a farce, he now wants the likes of GSP and Diaz. He should fight the next person on the contender list, which given the Rockhold injury situation, should be Jacare.
 
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i agree with all this. Any fight that Bisping wanted for 206 make sense because all the contenders gonna be busy fighting each other.

But now the circumstances have changed. Jacare is available to fight so he should get the preference over any other money fight.

if he wants to avoid Jacare now because it wont bring him the most money, then too bad for him. It should be either that (Fight Jacare), or wait for the winner of Weidman/Gay Jesus. No other option makes sense now.
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Forgot about him. Yes, Bisping should at a minimum fight Jacare next.
 
Raoul said:
Its not how often he defends the belt, its who he fights. There was zero justification for fighting Henderson when there are about 5 fighters more qualified in the pecking order. And if the Hendo fight wasn't enough of a farce, he now wants the likes of GSP and Diaz. He should fight the next person on the contender list, which given the Rockhold injury situation, should be Jacare.
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But all the top contenders were tied up with each other at the time (and 2 still are.) Equally people were excited about that mini tournament idea, now they're complaining cos it's not on and it's Bisping's fault all of a sudden? He even said in the interview about GSP and Diaz something along the lines of if it was a money fight he'd fight quickly, if not he'd fight them but rest up first. Jacare definitely isn't a money fight so he probably doesn't want it. I can see peoples frustration with Conor or whatever even if I don't agree but this one it doesn't seem like ducking or anything it just seems like a guy trying to make some good money who would fight the "top" contender when he is scheduled to. Considering in this thread and in the MMA "world" in general people whinge how the UFC is fecking fighters over with money it seems odd to criticise someone who is making money for himself. My point re the wait was if he was to fight in March/April he probably hasn't held the division hostage, he has merely taken fights when others were resting.

Equally the fight hasn't been made, I still expect him to fight Weidman if he wins next. They've been talked it up plenty of times.
 
Ferguson finishes RDA tonight IMO and if that happens I don't see how you can even consider not giving the guy a title shot, which will be a big issue with Khabib waiting for one too (I expect him to beat Johnson a week later at 205).
 
JP77 said:
Ferguson finishes RDA tonight IMO and if that happens I don't see how you can even consider not giving the guy a title shot, which will be a big issue with Khabib waiting for one too (I expect him to beat Johnson a week later at 205).
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I'm with you.

Pumped for the event and confident on El Cucuy getting It done.
 
Slow start to the night

I'd forgotten where this was, last time UFC were in Mexico City nearly every fight was slow paced and many gassed because of the altitude. I would like to think they all trained with this in mind
 
A high number of clean shots were landed there.
Spinning back fist is a rare stoppage as well.
 
yep, best fight of the night so far.

I agree with Stan on this one... if the ref didn't stopped that, it was a beating coming.

Barzola was really good too. The other guy was pretty shit though...

got Montaño for the next one...
 
good victory Diego Sanchez

Ferguson vs RDA next :nervous:

getting nervous now, cmon Cucuy!!

i really like both fighters, but feck i want Tony to win tonight and fight for the title.
 
As much as I dislike McGregor getting a title shot like this at 155 McGregor/Ferguson would be insane. The build up and the fight itself would be crazy.

How the feck do you deny Ferguson the next title shot after he just did that to RDA? This guys ridiculous, I think Khabib is the only possible person that can stop him in this division and that's only through the possible wrestling and even then I'm not so sure. Ferguson's energy, stamina, style and all around talent in general is just scary. So good to watch.
 
JP77 said:
As much as I dislike McGregor getting a title shot like this at 155 McGregor/Ferguson would be insane. The build up and the fight itself would be crazy.

How the feck do you deny Ferguson the next title shot after he just did that to RDA? This guys ridiculous, I think Khabib is the only possible person that can stop him in this division and that's only through the possible wrestling and even then I'm not so sure. Ferguson's energy, stamina, style and all around talent in general is just scary. So good to watch.
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If there's one contender Khabib wont be able to ragdoll it may be Ferguson. He brushed off RDA's takedown attempts so easily, and he's also huge for the division.
 
That was a seriously impressive performance from Ferguson. Surprised the judges had it so close, they all scored it 48-47.

Makes you wonder if RDA could have sneaked it without the 2nd round eye poke, he claims he was seeing double for the rest of the fight.
 
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If there's one contender Khabib wont be able to ragdoll it may be Ferguson. He brushed off RDA's takedown attempts so easily, and he's also huge for the division.
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Would be an amazing fight. Although I suspect it wouldn't happen any time soon given the dynamics in the division. Ferguson will almost certainly face Alvarez next, even if the latter loses to McGregor. I suspect Conor will take some time off after this to do things outside of MMA at which point the normal order within both divisions will be somewhat restored.
 
Jones banned until July.
I also think Conor wins this easily, gonna be a good chunk of the Cyber family fortune at stake
 
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