Gotta imagine he's learned a lot from this fight.
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The Dos Anjos fight would've been nasty with Mcgregors takedown defence. He would've pinned him down with ease like he did to Nate Diaz.
That's probably the bigger problem for him. He wants to keep the fight on his feet but his takedown defence is poor and he gets caught a lot with it.
I think he will learn from this and come back better. As they say, you learn more from defeat then victory.
Oh he definitely needs to work on his ground game, but i'm just pointing out that he's supposedly got good bjj skills. He will definitely want to strengthen that side of his game to be a success at LW.
Definitely i think the Diaz fight will definitely have been an eye opener for him. Granted Diaz took shots that i think would have KO'd a lot of LW fighters but still he won't be getting too many first round knock outs at that weight.
Deposit going on a trip to Vegas for UFC 200 tomorrow, tickets gonna cost an arm and a leg but we're getting flights and accommodation to New York and Las Vegas for a great deal. Hoping to see McGregor knock out Aldo again, couldn't really understand what had happened last time.
Should be the best UFC yet by a country mile.
Hope so, I think they'll have three title fights on the main card... Feather, light and welter.
And I'm sure they'll be tempted to put Jones on it if he comes out of the Cormier fight relatively undamaged.
Don't be surprised to see Nate Diaz v GSP and/or RDA v Lawlor. All the conventional weight class rules will fly out the window for the spectacle of fights people really want to see.
@KiD MoYeS how much did the Aldo-McG tickets cost you?
That would be a weird move.
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2016/3/1...pierres-vs-nate-diaz-ufc-200-mma-firas-zahabi
GSP is already in talks, which Dana has admitted in a 196 post fight interview. Nate won't fight anyone unless its a big ticket item, so this would make sense.
My predictions
Conor - Aldo 2
Rousey - Tate 3
Dos Anjos - Khabib 2
Lawler - Condit 2
GSP - Nate Diaz
Holm - Nunes
No way are they putting three title fights on one card. Not even for 200.
McGregor will almost certainly defend his title and one other title. The third fight will just be a couple of big names. GSP would fit the bill.
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Did you speak to any of the locals when you went last time? When I went Vegas (there wasn't an event on though, was week after a Mayweather fight) the locals said the events rarely sell out because they know they can pick up tickets last minute. Obviously all tourists play it safe and buy them but the local people usually get in on the night less than face value. Dunno if this will be the case for a big event like 200 though especially at a new stadium. Be anooying if you went all that way and it had sold out as well!
He isn't too big for the FW though. They all cut weight. If he is too big for it, then they are all too big for it. If everyone fought at their natural weight, then that'd be a different story. But as they all cut and Conor is more than capable of cutting to FW even though it's too, then it is his weight until the rules change.
I understand what you're saying about the finish. But as Conor says himself, the first thing a fighter does when he panics is to grab. Conor panicked when he realised his shots weren't as powerful against a bigger opponent, and he panicked himself when he got rocked. I doubt it was a conscious decision to lose via sub over via ko, it was simply that he panicked and that is the way he lost. In relation to tapping, is there any point in letting yourself be choked out when you are already caught and can't get out? I'm not sure. The choke was deep. He wasn't getting out. It wasn't like the Sage one that wasn't even on properly. Diaz had it synced and you can see from the video of it that Conor was in agony. Definitely the right thing to do in my opinion. Holly went out (like a champion some would argue) but what was the point? She was caught, refused to tap, and who's to say what kind of damage that may do to her in the future. I can understand both sides.
Aldo should just shut his mouth. You simply cannot mouth off at someone after losing in 13 seconds. It's ridiculous.
even if they do put 3 great fights on the card I can see one of the six not being fit to fight
GSP might be offered crazy money to come back, Rousey is back in training I think so could be another possibility
Cyborg vs holm at a catchweight could be an option?
to be honest they are going to struggle to get a card that matches the excitement that ufc100 generated at the time
Similar thing with Tate, first time she and Rousey fought, she didn't tap until after her elbow was dislocated, daft.
I'm actually enjoying the rest from Rousey and her hype train. Hope she doesn't come back for a while longer and somehow a Tate-Holm rematch takes place.
I agree about tapping out being wise. Just Mcgregor makes out that he fights till the end and that other fighters are pussies for not fighting and giving up too easily. What he did was exactly what he has called other fighters out for in the past.
He has the same height/reach advantage over every FW that Nate Diaz has over him. He is a lot bigger then them and he is more natural in the LW division (When you look at his size). I do think he needs to shut Aldo up now, though and expect that fight to be nasty for Aldo. Expect a different Mcgregor going in against a Aldo desperate to KO him. It won't end well for Aldo IMO.
He is ducking the LW division though. Understandably as he just got outclassed against the 5th ranked LW.
Wouldn't be surprised if she does stay out for a long time. The way she reacted to defeat was very poor.
WWE and films would seem to be a pretty sensible choice money wise
Gotta imagine with her it's a matter of when, not if, with the WWE.
yeah - one last shot at a UFC title again before WWE and movies or just straight to the WWE - I guess its down to her drive to return to fighting but as she has competed at the top level for such a long time (including her judo) I wouldn't be surprised if she walked away from MMA and concentrated on making as much money as she can for a while
There's no way she'll retire after that loss to Holm. Not a chance in hell.
She'll batter Meisha Tata (again) then rematch with Holm.
potentially... as I say it depends if the desire to train and cut is still there after 10 years of elite level competition - I hope it is Id like to see her come back and regain the title, defend it against holm then win against cyborg before retiring as it would cement her legacy which personally I would like to see after the way she has been integral to the sport growing
Apparently though she is unlikely to fight at UFC200 due to hollywood commitments and it may be November (thanksgiving show presumably) before she is ready to fight - and I could see enough lucrative opportunities come her way that she may just decide to go that route
I'm sorry, but this is absolutely ridiculous. Who and how is he ducking? And define outclassed, because it was all McGregor up until that beautiful one-two from Nate.
He's not ducking anyone ffs.
He had a LW title match lined up at 196 and it was either that or a WW title match at UFC 200. Now after a loss against Nate Diaz his next two fights are likely FW defences? I would say he isn't too interested in going up at the moment.
If outclass means going all out trying to KO a guy, failing to even rock him and getting rocked yourself by the first clean punch he lands is considered outclassed then yes, McGregor outclassed him. Truth is Nate took his best and Mcgregor ran out of ideas/stamina. That would be Diaz outclassing him IMO.
I think what he is doing is wise. Re evaluating your fighting style/tactic and performing/testing it on guys who are less likely to do lots of damage to you makes a lot of sense. Still doesn't mean he isn't ducking the LW division at the moment.
Bizarre logic to say the least. He has fought everyone before him, spare Aldo and RdS, who both pulled out due to injury. Let's remember, he is the reigning FW champ and has to go back down and defend his belt at some point so lets cut the "he's ducking LW" crap.
If he had beaten Diaz at UFC 196 either RDA or Lawler would've been his opponent at 200. That was all the talk from Mcgregor at the time. Now that he has lost all the talk is about defending his own belt. He may not be ducking them but there js definite apprehension from him about fighting in those weight classes at the moment. I'm sure he will come back up once/if he has fought and successfully defended his belt against Aldo and Edgar. But right now this fight has put him off going up a weight class.
Having an iron jaw doesn't mean Nate outclassed him, in the first round it was all McGregor, he may not of rocked him, but he busted him up (yeah yeah, scar tissue) but you need to land punches to tear scar tissue. Plus he got the better of Nate when it went to the ground.
Second round, yeah, he was winging shots looking to KO Nate and missing and/or grazing Nate, but he certainly wasn't outclassed. Look at how quick it turned, he was pressurizing Diaz, they separate and bang, one two, it's all but over.
Too say he was outclassed is insane, I'd expect it from Nucks but not you! And come on, you know he's obliged to defend the FW title. An impressive win over either Aldo or Edgar and you know he'll be asking for a shot at the LW title, probably end of the year fight.
There's no rational reason for him to go up or down a weight class to WW or LW because he has a belt that he has to defend. It would be rampantly unfair to everyone else in the FW division to have to wait a year or more before they get a title shot, not to mention it would basically hold the entire division hostage to McGregor's division hopping. This next fight against Aldo or Edgar could be his final at FW if he wins, as there will be little reason for him to stay there having already won an interim belt, a full belt, and defended a full belt. If he loses to Aldo or Edgar then he will almost certainly stay at FW and fight the other.
He was scheduled to fight either RDA or Lawler if he beat Diaz because those would have been the biggest fights open to him at that point. The opportunity to win a second title was a good enough reason to delay his inevitable featherweight defence for one more fight.
That changed with the Diaz loss. There's no justification for him walking straight into a title shot against either Lawler or RDA any more, which means a featherweight defence against Aldo or Edgar is now the biggest fight available.
He's not dodging anyone, he's just taking the fights that make the most sense.
That changed with the Diaz loss. There's no justification for him walking straight into a title shot against either Lawler or RDA any more, which means a featherweight defence against Aldo or Edgar is now the biggest fight available.
He's not dodging anyone, he's just taking the fights that make the most sense.
Dodging ffs 
Hates McGregor and the Irish does Gol, bloody hates 'em
Anyways, lots of bollix being talked about McGregor at the moment. Tyson, Ali, United, Fergie, Mourinho, Messi, Ronaldo, Schumacher, all the greats have been beaten, had their arses handed to them and humiliated. McGregor has lost one fight, after blowing his weight division apart. One fight. A bit of perspective wouldn't go a miss with some people
Hates McGregor and the Irish does Gol, bloody hates 'em Anyways, lots of bollix being talked about McGregor at the moment. Tyson, Ali, United, Fergie, Mourinho, Messi, Ronaldo, Schumacher, all the greats have been beaten, had their arses handed to them and humiliated. McGregor has lost one fight, after blowing his weight division apart. One fight. A bit of perspective wouldn't go a miss with some people
That's how Nate Diaz always fights though. McGregor fought right into his hands, couldn't do enough damage to him and gassed in the second when Nate Diaz then started landing punches of his own. If they fought 100 more times with the same plan, Nate Diaz wins 100% of the time. That's outclassed.
That doesn't mean Nate Diaz does outclass Mcgregor as a fighter. If Mcgregor fought a better more preserved game and used more variance in his strikes and targeted Nates soft belly (His words not mine) like he said he would. McGregor would've cut him apart and potentially got a TKO in the pater rounds. His game plan was poor, his stamina was very poor and his ground game shown up slightly (More his takedown defence which was exposed against Mendes).
I reckon he has to beat both before another LW try. Then I wouldn't be surprised if he vacates and goes up. LW is where the big fights are at and that is where he will go to. Still, this loss has made him re evaluate that division and made him more apprehensive about it.
Its already rampantly unfair that Mcgregor can hop between divisions picking title fights and freezing out all the other FW fighters. The only change was his loss to Diaz. That made him realise that staying and defending in FW for a little while isn't such a bad idea. Also seemed to make him re evaluate how he fights in LW division and how he views them as competition.
There is nothing wrong with what he is doing mind. After a loss like that it makes sense to take your time before going into the toughest division in the UFC.
I think he should clean up the division first before moving up.
Would anybody want to see RDA/Diaz again after the first fight? I don't see anything changing with that one and the result, would be a waste with Diaz getting completely dominated.
It wouldn't surprise me to be perfectly honest. I wouldn't go as far to say it'll happen because numerous things are in the air but I also wouldn't rule it out. Dana wants Rousey back for 200 to fight for the title. He wants McGregor to defend the title (or originally wanted him to fight Lawler for the Welterweight title). A title defence for possibly Lawler and/or RDA too. There's every chance we see three title fights at 200, it's a tough one to call though.
I think she'll be absolutely itching to come back as soon as possible now Tate has the title. There's a legit rivalry and hatred between the two, Rousey will be desperate to come back and shut Tate up, even more so with Tate now trash talking Rousey at every given chance. Will be interesting to see if Tate winning the title is enough to spur her on to come back for 200, I'm not ruling anything out at this stage.
Highly confident that Punk fights at 200 too which will be another big fight for the card. He's gone out of his way to postpone his debut fight because he wants 200. Unless he get's injured I highly expect he'll get that now even though Dana apparently wants it at 199. We'll see though if Dana is dead set on wanting to use Punk on another card outside of 200 to try to draw.
$600, worth it.
Yeah, I think UFC 194 was actually sold out but it appeared there were tickets available for 196. Big risk but sure I've no idea when tickets go on sale or anything else like that.
Yeah to be fair for UFC 200 I wouldn't really chance it. Was quite interesting to know though I thought everything sold out. They said except Mayweather vs. Pacquiao pretty much everything else stays on sale (I went before 194 so wouldn't be surprised if that was a sell out...McGregor does have a large following with him and it's not exactly a bad place to go for a piss up!)
What's the story with @Gol123? Does he watch MMA?