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The way i saw it on the face off is that Nate fist was right on Conor's chin, while his head was way far behind, completely out of reach for Conor. Its a new world for Conor.

For sure some thoughts crossed his mind igniting to throw that cheap slap/punch.
 
George Owen said:
The way i saw it on the face off is that Nate fist was right on Conor's chin, while his head was way far behind, completely out of reach for Conor. Its a new world for Conor.

For sure some thoughts crossed his mind igniting to throw that cheap slap/punch.
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I'm sure it will have crossed his mind. Going up to 170 and the first person he has a reach disadvantage against...
 
Oggmonster said:
Depends what you mean "normal person" I'd probably suggest being an elite athlete and arguably the Number 1 in your sport makes you not a normal person. Equally in a sporting field marred with allegations and controversy about steroid use then it winds them up. Go in to a gym and tell every day body builders they're on steroids and I'd imagine some of them would get pissed off. What you think normal isn't necessarily normal as well, it just is for you. Equally he didn't get THAT annoyed by it really did he? He raised his voice and said he's not on steroids then laughed and joked a couple of minutes later. I don't think he takes offence over everything really, in fact up until yesterday he's always seemed quite laidback. Watch any of the Embedded series he is in or interviews and when people insults him he tends to laugh it off. He may come back with something to say but that doesn't mean he's offended more he's just entitled to a response.

I'm not Irish either and have criticised McGregor in the past.but I just don't see the complaints about him as valid. It's a valid criticism to say he shouldn't be punching his opponents hands 2 days before a fight yeah. I doubt he's that bothered about the midget comments (he used to call Chad Mendes "Midget Mendes" for example) and the fact is Aldo and all the others are smaller than fighter Diaz has fought.

It's just trash talk and back and forth to sell a fight, McGregor and Diaz aren't the first and hopefully won't be the last, it is entertaining to watch after all.
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I agree about up until now Conor not giving a shit. Which is why I am curious to see the next embedded video after this press conference. Gauge their reactions and see what state of mind each is in.
George Owen said:
The way i saw it on the face off is that Nate fist was right on Conor's chin, while his head was way far behind, completely out of reach for Conor. Its a new world for Conor.

For sure some thoughts crossed his mind igniting to throw that cheap slap/punch.
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There are only 2 inches in reach between them. That's not as much as you would think.

This will be an interesting fight all things considered.
 
I kinda feel sorry for Conor a little bit because all his fights since he blew into a star have question marks over them (wrongly or rightly).

Max Holloway - Holloway was too young and also injured
Diego Brandao - Replacement fight
Dustin Poirier - Hit him at the back of the head
Dennis Siver - Hand picked easy opponent
Chad Mendes - Short camp
Jose Aldo - Lucky shot, fight would be different had they fought another 100 times
(Nate Diaz - if he wins, will be the short camp story again)

From all of those, I feel that Chad Mendes' excuse is the only one that holds any ground but unfortunately for Conor, he's gonna have to win a war with ABSOLUTELY no controversy for the haters to shut up.

On the other hand, I'm getting sick an tired of the McGregor butt huggers that have started watching UFC since January 18th 2015. They swarm every Conor McGregor video with their idiotic posts and constantly try to school everyone about their god Conor. They even believe that Conor would knock out Bones because Bones went close with Gustaffson. I just want Conor to get sparked out clean sooner rather than later so these morons can just feck off.
 
Jon Jones would decimate Conor.

Also, their constant banging on about Precision beats power and timing beats speed. Annoys me. Imagine them in a proper fight trying to apply that.
 
Gol123 said:
Jon Jones would decimate Conor.

Also, their constant banging on about Precision beats power and timing beats speed. Annoys me. Imagine them in a proper fight trying to apply that.
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What about their fights aren't proper?
 
Duafc said:
What about their fights aren't proper?
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I'm saying imagine fans of Conor Mcgregor being in an actual fight and trying to do the whole precision crap. They would get slaughtered.
 
Gol123 said:
Jon Jones would decimate Conor.

Also, their constant banging on about Precision beats power and timing beats speed. Annoys me. Imagine them in a proper fight trying to apply that.
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Conor trains like a beast in the gym and is a great fighter.

Bones trains like a beast in the strip clubs and is still a great fighter.

I can't wait to see what Bones will do once he gets his head in the game.
 
Gol123 said:
I'm saying imagine fans of Conor Mcgregor being in an actual fight and trying to do the whole precision crap. They would get slaughtered.
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Ah, thought you meant MMA fighters.

Aye imagine silly cnuts like @DatIrishFella giving it the big one and trying to catch someone with a wee shy left and some dancing feet.
 
Gol123 said:
I'm saying imagine fans of Conor Mcgregor being in an actual fight and trying to do the whole precision crap. They would get slaughtered.
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I agree that precision beats power (to some extent). You can have all the power in the world but if you can't land a punch its useless. As for timing beating speed....well again timing and accuracy are hugely important when in fight situation
 
RedRevongge said:
I agree that precision beats power (to some extent). You can have all the power in the world but if you can't land a punch its useless. As for timing beating speed....well again timing and accuracy are hugely important when in fight situation
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You need all 4 to be successful. Something Conor has.

His fans are probably throwing slow as shit weak punches on chins and then getting knocked out themselves.
 
The "who's in who's head" thing is quite funny given you could read it both ways. I guess people will decide who won the mind games based on who wins the fight, which is a bit stupid really.

Personally I don't think any of this will have any impact on the fight at all. It's just a bit of panto to build hype and it has worked nicely.
 
Gol123 said:
You need all 4 to be successful. Something Conor has.

His fans are probably throwing slow as shit weak punches on chins and then getting knocked out themselves.
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Hope so. Watching my fellow Irishmen attempt drunken capoeira outside Supermacs at 3am on a Saturday night would probably be the highlight of my year.
 
Dirty Schwein said:
I kinda feel sorry for Conor a little bit because all his fights since he blew into a star have question marks over them (wrongly or rightly).

Max Holloway - Holloway was too young and also injured
Diego Brandao - Replacement fight
Dustin Poirier - Hit him at the back of the head
Dennis Siver - Hand picked easy opponent
Chad Mendes - Short camp
Jose Aldo - Lucky shot, fight would be different had they fought another 100 times
(Nate Diaz - if he wins, will be the short camp story again)

From all of those, I feel that Chad Mendes' excuse is the only one that holds any ground but unfortunately for Conor, he's gonna have to win a war with ABSOLUTELY no controversy for the haters to shut up.

On the other hand, I'm getting sick an tired of the McGregor butt huggers that have started watching UFC since January 18th 2015. They swarm every Conor McGregor video with their idiotic posts and constantly try to school everyone about their god Conor. They even believe that Conor would knock out Bones because Bones went close with Gustaffson. I just want Conor to get sparked out clean sooner rather than later so these morons can just feck off.
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These excuses are absolutely mind blowing, just ...... fantastic in their denial. Whoever holds them, bar the Siver fight, is a moron. Especially the Holloway one, although this is the first time I've seen it.
 
Dirty Schwein said:
I kinda feel sorry for Conor a little bit because all his fights since he blew into a star have question marks over them (wrongly or rightly).

Max Holloway - Holloway was too young and also injured
Diego Brandao - Replacement fight
Dustin Poirier - Hit him at the back of the head
Dennis Siver - Hand picked easy opponent
Chad Mendes - Short camp
Jose Aldo - Lucky shot, fight would be different had they fought another 100 times
(Nate Diaz - if he wins, will be the short camp story again)

From all of those, I feel that Chad Mendes' excuse is the only one that holds any ground but unfortunately for Conor, he's gonna have to win a war with ABSOLUTELY no controversy for the haters to shut up.

On the other hand, I'm getting sick an tired of the McGregor butt huggers that have started watching UFC since January 18th 2015. They swarm every Conor McGregor video with their idiotic posts and constantly try to school everyone about their god Conor. They even believe that Conor would knock out Bones because Bones went close with Gustaffson. I just want Conor to get sparked out clean sooner rather than later so these morons can just feck off.
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Yeah but anyone who constantly plays down McGregor's achievements is clearly an idiot, he isn't lying when he says nobody has done what he's done in the time he has done it. Guy is a superstar, and a damn fine athlete too.
 
DatIrishFella said:
These excuses are absolutely mind blowing, just ...... fantastic in their denial. Whoever holds them, bar the Siver fight, is a moron. Especially the Holloway one, although this is the first time I've seen it.
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Just don't see how any excuses take away from his obvious talent. McGregor did his ACL against Holloway and still carried on and beat him...no time for excuses. Especially all the short camp ones. If they didn't think they had a chance of winning, even on a short camp, they wouldn't fight
 
I know McGregor is close to his walking around weight but does anyone think fighting at this weight might slow him down a bit? Will it have any physical affect?

What about mental? He's already spoken about this being almost a normal week. Not calling McGregors professionalism into question at all, but it's very different to what he's used to. Maybe on a subconscious level it might affect him.
 
Bubz27 said:
I know McGregor is close to his walking around weight but does anyone think fighting at this weight might slow him down a bit? Will it have any physical affect?

What about mental? He's already spoken about this being almost a normal week. Not calling McGregors professionalism into question at all, but it's very different to what he's used to. Maybe on a subconscious level it might affect him.
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I can definitely see him being stronger and maybe even faster tomorrow night. I don't like this division for him though, not a lot of good fights for him. Lawler is probably the only fight I could see him pushing for before going to lightweight again because a lot of the ranked welterweights would bury him in my opinion, Wonderboy, Maia and MacDonald would be too testing I think.
 
The fact that some of you can disagree so wildly about who's winning the mental battle and the body language in the pressers should surely indicate that none of you have a clue?

Reading far too much into a brief staredown and some verbal exchanges.
 
DomesticTadpole said:
Just don't see how any excuses take away from his obvious talent. McGregor did his ACL against Holloway and still carried on and beat him...no time for excuses. Especially all the short camp ones. If they didn't think they had a chance of winning, even on a short camp, they wouldn't fight
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Don't agree with this bit at all. Fighters don't fight just because they love fighting (unless that fighter is Cerrone), they do it for a championship belt or/and for money. Fighting Conor is a HUGE pay day in a sport where the athletes are severely underpaid so given that opportunity, most fighters will take the fight despite the prep time involved. The more likely scenario is that the fighter coming in on short notice will go for an early KO/submission to counter the fact that his/her cardio/conditioning will be lower than usual. You can clearly see this in the Mendes fight. I don't think he would have shot for the guillotine had he thought he had the cardio to carry on fighting the way he was for another three rounds because up until that point, he was winning that fight most likely.

Bubz27 said:
I know McGregor is close to his walking around weight but does anyone think fighting at this weight might slow him down a bit? Will it have any physical affect?

What about mental? He's already spoken about this being almost a normal week. Not calling McGregors professionalism into question at all, but it's very different to what he's used to. Maybe on a subconscious level it might affect him.
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I was thinking about this myself but it could have a positive affect on him also as he doesn't have to lose a bunch of weight then rehydrate so quickly, meaning he will be fresher for the fight. The problem with this weight class is that he loses a lot of the advantages he has in featherweight and that can easily be his downfall against the likes of Maia, Macdonald or Wonderboy.
 
Welsh Wonder said:
The fact that some of you can disagree so wildly about who's winning the mental battle and the body language in the pressers should surely indicate that none of you have a clue?

Reading far too much into a brief staredown and some verbal exchanges.
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It's simple, McGregor wins tomorrow and he won the mental battle, Diaz wins tomorrow and he won the mental battle.
 
Dirty Schwein said:
Don't agree with this bit at all. Fighters don't fight just because they love fighting (unless that fighter is Cerrone), they do it for a championship belt or/and for money. Fighting Conor is a HUGE pay day in a sport where the athletes are severely underpaid so given that opportunity, most fighters will take the fight despite the prep time involved. The more likely scenario is that the fighter coming in on short notice will go for an early KO/submission to counter the fact that his/her cardio/conditioning will be lower than usual. You can clearly see this in the Mendes fight. I don't think he would have shot for the guillotine had he thought he had the cardio to carry on fighting the way he was for another three rounds because up until that point, he was winning that fight most likely.


I was thinking about this myself but it could have a positive affect on him also as he doesn't have to lose a bunch of weight then rehydrate so quickly, meaning he will be fresher for the fight. The problem with this weight class is that he loses a lot of the advantages he has in featherweight and that can easily be his downfall against the likes of Maia, Macdonald or Wonderboy.
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Ok, so if it's a huge payday etc then why tarnish McGregors reputation with excuses about short camp etc if any fighter would take on the fight regardless...that's surely not his problem
 
Bubz27 said:
I know McGregor is close to his walking around weight but does anyone think fighting at this weight might slow him down a bit? Will it have any physical affect?

What about mental? He's already spoken about this being almost a normal week. Not calling McGregors professionalism into question at all, but it's very different to what he's used to. Maybe on a subconscious level it might affect him.
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he definitely is not used to carry and throw this new extra weight around the octagon. He will be slower and his stamina might be compromised as well.

Now, slower compared vs his FW self, but he will still have the speed advantage vs Nate. I think he will be fast enough to avoid Nate punches most of the time. But he has to get in there, deliver his bombs and get out. He don't want to clinch too much because Nate could work a take down and that's his territory.

keep him at distance with his kicks will be the key. Attack the body and wear him down, until he slows down enough and get the TKO (2nd or 3rd round). I do think Conor's power transcends weight classes so that's something Nate will suffer.

Although i think Conor will win the fight, I'm less sure about this fight than vs RDA.
 
And people are saying Nate hasn't been gotten to :lol: He was just about to cry.
 
DomesticTadpole said:
Ok, so if it's a huge payday etc then why tarnish McGregors reputation with excuses about short camp etc if any fighter would take on the fight regardless...that's surely not his problem
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I think their intention is more to justify why they lost as opposed tarnish McGregors reputation. It's a ready made excuse just as most Connor fans have a ready made excuse if he loses to Nate, which is the jump up in weight class.
 
George Owen said:
he definitely is not used to carry and throw this new extra weight around the octagon. He will be slower and his stamina might be compromised as well.

Now, slower compared vs his FW self, but he will still have the speed advantage vs Nate. I think he will be fast enough to avoid Nate punches most of the time. But he has to get in there, deliver his bombs and get out. He don't want to clinch too much because Nate could work a take down and that's his territory.

keep him at distance with his kicks will be the key. Attack the body and wear him down, until he slows down enough and get the TKO (2nd or 3rd round). I do think Conor's power transcends weight classes so that's something Nate will suffer.

Although i think Conor will win the fight, I'm less sure about this fight than vs RDA.
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Stamina isn't a problem. Cutting the weight he does fecks his stamina right up. Apparently he is working at a higher intensity now then he did at FW and still has loads of energy to spare.

Cutting made him very sloppy in the ring compared to his natural game. I suspect a faster, fitter and more powerful Mcgregor against Nate Diaz. But then he also loses the advantages of being the biggest fecker in FW.
 
George Owen said:
Wonderboy vs Rory! wow thats a fight!!!
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Great fight, but I think Wonderboy should have gotten the shot.

Seems to me they're counting on McGregor to destroy Diaz with little damage and then fighting Lawler (rather than RDA).
 
George Owen said:
wtf Cruz vs Faber 3?

what a joke... they gifted him a belt and now they are gifting him an opponent? brilliant.
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It's the money fight in the division with their past history and it being a rubber match as much as I disagree with it because Faber has looked a shell of his former self recently.

George Owen said:
Wonderboy vs Rory! wow thats a fight!!!
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Nooo! I like both these guys and this will really set one of them back :(
 
Donut said:
Great fight, but I think Wonderboy should have gotten the shot.

Seems to me they're counting on McGregor to destroy Diaz with little damage and then fighting Lawler (rather than RDA).
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yep Dana just said he don't know what's the card gonna be for UFC200 yet. Only after this weekend they'll talk about it. So its pretty clear it depends on the Conor's fight outcome (lawler or RDA).
 
Rockhold vs. Weidman 2 also announced and a date for Stipe vs. Werdum is also set.

Also a live reaction from TJ was captured when they announced Cruz vs. Faber:

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Shamelessly stole this from MMA Fighting
 
TJ is a cnut really. Dicked Faber over.
 
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