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Can't see it happening, even if they say it could. First, Conor has to complete the 145 cycle and deal with Aldo and Edgar, which would take at least a year or more. Assuming he doesn't lose (which is a big if, he would then have to deal with a 155 warm up fight. I don't think he would be given a title shot right off the bat, again even though Dana etc say its a possibility, i think its just hype/bluster to get people interested in the idea.

I dunno, they've been talking about it like it's a sure thing for a while. Both Dana and McGregor have said it's happening and there's no real reason for it not to.
 
I don't see any more money in him going for 2 belts against a relatively unmarketable lot at 155 than what they could pull in with an Aldo rematch. Aldo is still near the top of the pound for pound list after this and no different a challenge in a rematch. What would however be a calamitous risk for Dana is if Conor loses a rematch vs Aldo, which would instantly knock him down a peg and throw a wrench into future plans.

McGregor would look very small against the likes of Cerrone and RDA. Personally I think it would be madness for him to move up in weight. I know he did it in Cage Warriors but the UFC obviously have far superior fighters.
 
Herb Dean should be sacked. He's absolutely awful. I can't remember a card in recent times where he didn't make a huge blunder. I even said to my mate "I wonder how Herb is gonna feck things up tonight?" It's baffling how he keeps getting the nod when he makes such ridiculous decisions. I love how Joe Rogan always calls him out on it as well. I imagine there's no love lost between them.
 
I dunno, they've been talking about it like it's a sure thing for a while. Both Dana and McGregor have said it's happening and there's no real reason for it not to.

It would be a massive slap in the face to the top contenders in the 155, which is why i would be shocked if they did it. Dana talks a lot of various possibilities but the practicality of pulling it off is a different matter.
 
Herb Dean should be sacked. He's absolutely awful. I can't remember a card in recent times where he didn't make a huge blunder. I even said to my mate "I wonder how Herb is gonna feck things up tonight?" It's baffling how he keeps getting the nod when he makes such ridiculous decisions. I love how Joe Rogan always calls him out on it as well. I imagine there's no love lost between them.

For Weidman ? It was hard watching him get pummeled like that. That said, Rogan is insufferable at times with his Conor/Rousey love.
 
I was very surprised at Herb Dean. He is a brilliant ref and I cannot fathom what he was thinking allowing Weidman to fight on. He was not defending himself at all and was getting pummeled. I can only presume he will be reprimanded in some way. At worst he will come in for huge critisism.
 
It would be a massive slap in the face to the top contenders in the 155, which is why i would be shocked if they did it. Dana talks a lot of various possibilities but the practicality of pulling it off is a different matter.

Slap in the face maybe but also a massive paycheck for whoever gets the fight. I'd have thought the lightweights would be delighted to see McGregor appear in their division given he'd be bringing a lot of money and attention with him. If it makes sense money wise then I can't see them holding off.
 
Listen, if Herb Dean was the ref for the Aldo fight, McGregor would still be hammer fisting him right now.

"Fight back, José! Fight back! "
 
This aul shite again. McGregor was not training for a wrestler. He was training for Aldo. He didn't have a proper camp either and had to do huge media obligations. Mendes took the fight claiming he was always fit. If he had of had a full camp maybe he gets to the third round, but more than likely he gets knocked out.

You come across as really bitter about McGregor. You've been spouting shite about him in this thread for ages. It must've absolutely sickened you to see him win.
Mendes had a full camp against Frankie and look how that turned out. Having said that Mendes had to say he was fully ready before taking on Conor, it's about selling the fight. He couldn't exactly say "I'm not ready for this fight, but I'll do my best". He had to sell the fight and he obviously wanted that red panty night money.

But people that are still doubting Conor are really clutching at straws. I still don't like him as a character and I think the UFC do and always will give him favourable treatment as long as he keeps winning but you have to give credit where credit is due. He took on Chad, a wrestler, a style that was meant to be his achilles heel and came through. He got into the mind of the P4P king and destroyed him mentally and physically.

But what are his chances at lightweight? RDA is a beast, Cerrone is excellent, Pettis has dynamic skills, Ferguson as we saw recently is a boss. But if Khabib stayed fit, he would destroy everyone in that division and I don't think Conor would move up. That guy is one scary motherfecker.
 
I was very surprised at Herb Dean. He is a brilliant ref and I cannot fathom what he was thinking allowing Weidman to fight on. He was not defending himself at all and was getting pummeled. I can only presume he will be reprimanded in some way. At worst he will come in for huge critisism.

I rate Dean as well - although the English guy who did the Yoel/Souza fight was probably a bit better on the night, especially when he stood them up after Romero got position after clutching the cage (i think it was that fight?).
 
I was very surprised at Herb Dean. He is a brilliant ref and I cannot fathom what he was thinking allowing Weidman to fight on. He was not defending himself at all and was getting pummeled. I can only presume he will be reprimanded in some way. At worst he will come in for huge critisism.

I reckon he was thinking about calling it then heard the 10 second warning and thought 'I don't want to be the guy who stops it this close to the end of the round'.

Shouldn't have made any difference though. It's his job to protect the fighters first and foremost.
 
But what are his chances at lightweight? RDA is a beast, Cerrone is excellent, Pettis has dynamic skills, Ferguson as we saw recently is a boss. But if Khabib stayed fit, he would destroy everyone in that division and I don't think Conor would move up. That guy is one scary motherfecker.

None of them are KO artists. It would give Conor a shot. I'm not betting against him.
 
I was very surprised at Herb Dean. He is a brilliant ref and I cannot fathom what he was thinking allowing Weidman to fight on. He was not defending himself at all and was getting pummeled. I can only presume he will be reprimanded in some way. At worst he will come in for huge critisism.

Absolutely obscene, it makes me think something crooked went down.
 
I reckon he was thinking about calling it then heard the 10 second warning and thought 'I don't want to be the guy who stops it this close to the end of the round'.
He should have thought that in the McGregor Mendes fight then. Complete inconsistency

None of them are KO artists. It would give Conor a shot. I'm not betting against him.
It would be harder for Conor to KO them as well. He won't have the huge size/reach advantage he has in the featherweight division. I think it will be much closer in those fights. The UFC will give him instant title shot but that's a little unfair in my opinion. He should have to have at least a couple of fights there first, and if Pettis beats Alvarez, which I think he will, then surely he should get a title shot next?
 
I rate Dean as well - although the English guy who did the Yoel/Souza fight was probably a bit better on the night, especially when he stood them up after Romero got position after clutching the cage (i think it was that fight?).

It was a great piece of refereeing.
 
I rate Dean as well - although the English guy who did the Yoel/Souza fight was probably a bit better on the night, especially when he stood them up after Romero got position after clutching the cage (i think it was that fight?).

Excellent refereeing. Marc Goddard.
 
Funny thing is Conor predicted all his fights bang on except one... the mighty Dennis Siver. He said he'd complete that one in something like 2 minutes but it went to 2 rounds. I think Jose should fight Siver next!
 
Funny thing is Conor predicted all his fights bang on except one... the mighty Dennis Siver. He said he'd complete that one in something like 2 minutes but it went to 2 rounds. I think Jose should fight Siver next!

If Jose was going to fight anyone other than Conor next, maybe Holloway?
 
Funny thing is Conor predicted all his fights bang on except one... the mighty Dennis Siver. He said he'd complete that one in something like 2 minutes but it went to 2 rounds. I think Jose should fight Siver next!

The Muhammad Ali schtick will only go so far for Conor. He needs to stay humble and respect his opponents, which i actually think he does behind the veil of his clown act he uses to "sell the fight". As we saw with Rousey, that sort of thing only goes so far before someone comes in and unexpectedly spanks you.
 
Mendes had a full camp against Frankie and look how that turned out. Having said that Mendes had to say he was fully ready before taking on Conor, it's about selling the fight. He couldn't exactly say "I'm not ready for this fight, but I'll do my best". He had to sell the fight and he obviously wanted that red panty night money.

But people that are still doubting Conor are really clutching at straws. I still don't like him as a character and I think the UFC do and always will give him favourable treatment as long as he keeps winning but you have to give credit where credit is due. He took on Chad, a wrestler, a style that was meant to be his achilles heel and came through. He got into the mind of the P4P king and destroyed him mentally and physically.

But what are his chances at lightweight? RDA is a beast, Cerrone is excellent, Pettis has dynamic skills, Ferguson as we saw recently is a boss. But if Khabib stayed fit, he would destroy everyone in that division and I don't think Conor would move up. That guy is one scary motherfecker.

Conor isn't big enough for that division in my opinion. He's perfect where he is. It's a big weight cut for him but it's also notoriously hard on the likes of Aldo as well.

Khabib should be champion in that division. I think Conor could win it but it's so much harder. Conor v Pettis would be unreal though, I'd love to see that. I could see him beating Cerrone who can be a really slow starter but RDA and Khabib and not fights that I would expect him to win personally.

The featherweight division is stacked and there are many fights he could have. Edgar next probably and that could go either way. Aldo and Mendes have unfinished business with him, Edgar for a second time regardless of who wins the first fight, Holloway, Lamas.

Holloway calling out McGregor was a bit silly in my opinion. He got completely schooled by McGregor who tore his acl in the first round. He was in the press conference saying he dropped McGregor and McGregor didn't drop him. He got well beaten. It looked ridiculous. It wasn't as if he was very impressive last night.
 
So the main event started and I was sitting there with butterflies in my stomach and my cock in my hand. Waited so damn long for this... I don't know why people are saying Aldo looked scared coming in. He always looks like this during fights. Conor however looked like he was happy as Larry... nerves of steel indeed! And then... I waited up all night for that! Heck waited 9 months for that... My brother (who doesn't really watch UFC) sat down to watch the fight with me and I was explaining to him that Aldo is undefeated in 10 years and is amazing, P4P the best fighter in the world etc. then he saw that, stood up and left the room saying "yeah Aldo is great"
Awkward times at the Scwein household?

"Hey bro, hold this for me for a second..."

The Muhammad Ali schtick will only go so far for Conor. He needs to stay humble and respect his opponents, which i actually think he does behind the veil of his clown act he uses to "sell the fight". As we saw with Rousey, that sort of thing only goes so far before someone comes in and unexpectedly spanks you.
He absolutely does, he's a showman, and no fool.
Miss the Mayweather fight?
Or Fury...
 
Look at the bright side - at least Conor didn't sing his girlfriend a song after winning the title like someone from that pillow fighting sport recently did.

I missed that one.
 
Conor isn't big enough for that division in my opinion. He's perfect where he is. It's a big weight cut for him but it's also notoriously hard on the likes of Aldo as well.

Khabib should be champion in that division. I think Conor could win it but it's so much harder. Conor v Pettis would be unreal though, I'd love to see that. I could see him beating Cerrone who can be a really slow starter but RDA and Khabib and not fights that I would expect him to win personally.

I don't think Conor will be as dominant in that division, he could just end up being 'one of the many good fighters' there. I could already imagine the WWE trash talk if he was to face Nate Diaz :lol: but Khabib would steamroll him. If people think Mendes is a good wrestler then wait until they see Khabib (I'm talking about fans that have joined in post-Conor hype train). Only issue is injuries. It's a shame he is always injured because he could be the Jon Jones of that division, he is that good.
 
McGregor said:
But, if he shows up, I feel I will KO him inside one. If he makes that walk, I feel every single movement I make will get an overreaction out of him because he is emotionally invested in it. There is too much in it for him. The whole country of Brazil. It’s all piling on him. I feel he will react a million times. That’s how I feel the fight playing out. I see him overreacting, overextending and then being knocked out unconscious.

In another interview last week he mentioned more precisely how he felt Jose would overextend - lunging at him with his right and how he wouldn't be there. He said explicitly that this is when he'd hit him with the left and put him down.

McGregor knew he was inside Aldo's head, he knew Aldo was going to come at him in anger and he was prepared for how it was coming. Obviously he probably didn't expect it to come within 14 seconds but anyone who reckons that was a fluke punch is deluding themselves.

When Fergie used mind games on Rafa and Wenger, and then set up his side to exploit their weaknesses, it wasn't a fluke when they walked into his traps.
 
I can't believe people are saying fluke, there is no lucky shot in fighting and especially here. And this is coming from someone who can't stand Conor's attitude before fights. If you throw a shot, you threw it, that's it. It's not like Jose went for a shot, missed, tripped and landed his head on Conor's immobile fist. That would be lucky, this wasn't. Everyone was saying Jose threw a lucky shot to beat Mendes in their first fight and it was actually Conor who said that it wasn't lucky.

People are just salty about what happened. I was upset. I wanted to see a war. I wanted to see Conor forced to eat a slice of humble pie. I wanted to see Jose get revenge for all the bullshit he's put up with over the last year or so. But at the end of the day, there was nothing, and I mean nothing contentious about the decision. No early stoppage, no shot to the back of the head, no half a training camp. Nothing. It was a clean shot right in face and lights out. Nothing anyone can say.
 
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