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Not sure if this has already been posted already but supposedly all is not well between UFC and McGregor.


Looks like someone from the UFC picking up and slamming the belt after Aldo gets KO'd.

Others things that were noticeable - No handshake between UFC and McGregor immediately post fight and Dana skipping the post fight presser despite being Vegas. The post match presser was weird too. The presser was an hour long but the last half hour was McGregor on his own basically telling reporters who he will fight next. Quite unusual.

Edit: False alarm - Seem pretty cosy here



 
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cyberman said:
Frankie gets his bell rung in every fight he has, he's famous for taking big shots and regrouping.
That will not work with Conor, Frankie is too small to bully him on the ground and hasn't the reach to trouble him in the standup.
There's always some boogeyman that is just around the corner who will school Conor.. Conor is the Daley Blind of MMA..
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Its just not the same as getting hit by Conor. Mendes and Aldo have been rocked and recovered. But a KO is not about pure force, like the man says.
 
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spwd said:
Ha ha brilliant!

What a ko though,he did say in under 40 seconds I believe lmao!
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He gave many different predictions, as is often the way with these mystic meg(mac) type deals. Still he was always consistent in that there wouldn't be a second round.
 
Yeah it's a shame we didn't see more of a fight but a win is a win and that was the mother of all wins against such a fantastic fighter, so weird that Aldo wouldn't look at him though,although he said he wasn't affected by the bs, I believe that shows he was.
 
spwd said:
Yeah it's a shame we didn't see more of a fight but a win is a win and that was the mother of all wins against such a fantastic fighter, so weird that Aldo wouldn't look at him though,although he said he wasn't affected by the bs, I believe that shows he was.
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He never looks at his opponents in pre fight.
 
I tell you what, Aldo looked like a man walking to the gallows coming out to that fight, compared to his normal behavior. Reminded me of Anderson coming out the second time against Weidman, he looked nervous.

If anyone could realize just how good Conor is, its Aldo.
 
justboy68 said:
I'm not at all salty about the outcome or whatever but regards Edgar it is interesting for a few reasons. Edgar in my opinion is probably the ultimate stylistic nightmare for Mcgregor, whereas Aldo actually matches up pretty well for Mcgregor (not denying I still thought Aldo would have enough). Everyone has one, styles make fights as they say.Firstly he is a fantastic wrestler which is undoubtedly Conor's main weakness. He is very fast and nimble on his feet with endless cardio. On top of that he used to fight at lightweight and took huge shots from those bigger guys and managed to be champion. Lastly he has become a master of suffering little damage, so perhaps he would be able to last on the feet against Conor better than the others at featherweight? At this point of course it would be foolish to not back Mcgregor as he continues to blow through his challenges but it is still an interesting match up. Alas I don't think it is one we will see. I don't think it's a coincidence that Mendes got the call for the Interim fight over Frankie despite Frankie being the one who trains all year round and stays ready, was more deserving of a shot and is also able to cut the weight easier as he could probably fight at Bantamweight if he could be persuaded to.
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Mendes is a harder match for McGregor stylistically in my opinion. He is a better wrestler than Mendes and isn't really a KO artist. It's most likely that Edgar will have to get a points decision victory to beat McGregor. That's 25 minutes that McGregor has to hit that left hand.
 
gooDevil said:
I tell you what, Aldo looked like a man walking to the gallows coming out to that fight, compared to his normal behavior. Reminded me of Anderson coming out the second time against Weidman, he looked nervous.

If anyone could realize just how good Conor is, its Aldo.
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I don't agree. I thought Aldo looked extremely confident. He always looks that way in the Octogon before a fight.
 
cyberman said:
Frankie gets his bell rung in every fight he has, he's famous for taking big shots and regrouping.
That will not work with Conor, Frankie is too small to bully him on the ground and hasn't the reach to trouble him in the standup.
There's always some boogeyman that is just around the corner who will school Conor.. Conor is the Daley Blind of MMA..
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It's always the next person who is going to beat McGregor. Frankie is a great fighter, one of the best ever, but he won't be able to hold Conor down for 25 minutes and Conor will hit him over and over again.
 
MannyB said:
Not sure if this has already been posted already but supposedly all is not well between UFC and McGregor.
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I wouldn't be surprised if there was tension. Dana did not look happy giving the belt to Conor. I expected to see him jumping for joy. Aldo is not a company guy so I would have presumed Dana would have been ecstatic.

Conor keeps going on about a 9 figure contract. Obviously that's ridiculous and never happening. Plus the UFC are saying the has to vacate the belt at 145 to go to 155 but Conor is saying that there's no way he'd vacate it.

It's all a bit weird.
 
Name Changed said:
I don't agree. I thought Aldo looked extremely confident. He always looks that way in the Octogon before a fight.
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To be fair it was just an impression. But I've watched all of Aldo's UFC fight many times. I do realize he's not a "smiler" and it wasn't a huge difference. I'm a huge Aldo fan, this fight doesn't change that. Same for Barao, still a great fighter, both should go into the UFC hall.
 
Mendes v Conor would be a fantastic fight (Mendes being well prepared that is).
 
spwd said:
Mendes v Conor would be a fantastic fight (Mendes being well prepared that is).
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The way Conor has been improving, I think it just gets worse, personally.

Though, to be fair, he could be submitted on the ground, it seems, what he's shown down there has been decent but also hasn't been great either.

I thought Aldo's chance was a RNC, with a puncher's chance on his feet. I feel like the most common fatal mistake guys without top bbj will make is to let someone get their back, which really should almost never happen.
 
Looking at the knockout again it is truly horrible how Aldo throws the right hand.
Is it a feint? Im sure Aldo thinks it is but he extends his arm 90% of the way with no power at all. Not only that but its insanely low. Conor has nothing to defend against and gives him ample time to measure the left hand.
That's not a feint imo. Thats a major feck up as Aldo has no protection at all for the counter. He's also jumping forward. Not only does that mean he can generate minimum power since he has no base, the leap forward multiplies the force of the shot coming back at him.
That's as bad as you can get.
Conor is really showing up MMA striking in a lesser spotlight than Holly Home. Boxing seems to be disregarded in MMA atm, these grapplers and BBJ experts coming into the sport pick it up at a very late stage and even then its to the minimum standard. It's treated as a defence against better strikers and a set up for the takedowns, not as a weapon in itself.
You really need to be boxing from a young age to compete at the top level and 99% of fighters just haven't.
Focusing on standup is the future of MMA. Not just Boxing but kickboxing will also play a bigger factor in the future. We only think MMA fighters can kick, they wouldn't last a few rounds with an elite kickboxer and the technical differences would be staggering. Look at the damage Rockhold is doing with his kicks and the difficulty his opponents are having trying to nullify him..
 
gooDevil said:
To be fair it was just an impression. But I've watched all of Aldo's UFC fight many times. I do realize he's not a "smiler" and it wasn't a huge difference. I'm a huge Aldo fan, this fight doesn't change that. Same for Barao, still a great fighter, both should go into the UFC hall.
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Absolutely.
 
It's definitely a faint to throw a power left hook (which to be fair he landed). But yeah it wasn't the smartest opening gambit in the world and his forward momentum definitely helped cause the KO. Here's a great close up of it here...

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I love the way McGregor palms away strikes. He's got the reflexes of a mongoose.
 
spwd said:
Thought the Rockhold fight was great too.
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Rockhold was excellent. I would have put money on him if I had any. He is the worst possible matchup for Weidman. If Weidman ever recovers properly, which I doubt because of some idiotic refereeing by Herb Dean, then they'll fight another couple of times. They may be the first 2 UFC fighters to ever fight 4 times (I think). They are way above the rest in terms of ability in my opinion.
 
CassiusClaymore said:
It's definitely a faint to throw a power left hook (which to be fair he landed). But yeah it wasn't the smartest opening gambit in the world and his forward momentum definitely helped cause the KO. Here's a great close up of it here...


I love the way McGregor palms away strikes. He's got the reflexes of a mongoose.
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That punch by Aldo did damage to McGregor also. It was a hard punch. If the fight had of gone on McGregor may have been in a bit of trouble. We'll never know.

You really can't leave yourself that open though against a counter striker like Conor. Aldo should have just spent the first round kicking McGregor's leg and taking away his quickness.
 
Name Changed said:
That punch by Aldo did damage to McGregor also. It was a hard punch. If the fight had of gone on McGregor may have been in a bit of trouble. We'll never know.

You really can't leave yourself that open though against a counter striker like Conor. Aldo should have just spent the first round kicking McGregor's leg and taking away his quickness.
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Agreed. He probably realises that himself now though tbf.
 
cyberman said:
Looking at the knockout again it is truly horrible how Aldo throws the right hand.
Is it a feint? Im sure Aldo thinks it is but he extends his arm 90% of the way with no power at all. Not only that but its insanely low. Conor has nothing to defend against and gives him ample time to measure the left hand.
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I think McGregors speed alarmed him in the earlier exchange where we saw Aldo throw a flurry and miss.

After that earlier exchange, Aldo led the next exchange. The feint was overthought and looked like he and caught in two minds between feinting and actually throwing it. It was McGregor speed and Aldos lack of speed of thought that killed Aldo.

Aldo had the tools to slowly take out McGregors lead leg but opted to assert himself by going head hunting early while McGregor was still fresh. In hindsight that was mental.
 
People are saying McGregor is ducking Edgar because he feels Edgar's style will expose him and I think that's horseshit. Although I think Edgar's style would cause Conor troubles, I don't think Conor is the type of guy that believes that. He truly does think he owns the division and can take on anyone in the octagon.

I personally think that Conor is ducking Edgar because he wouldn't know how to promote the fight. Edgar is one of the only legitimate contenders for Conor that he hasn't trashed talked into hiding. In fact, many times, Conor has been complimentary towards Frankie. He knows that trash talking Frankie won't make him react, Frankie will just nod and say "we'll see how it pans out" or something to that effect. Plus look at Frankie, he looks like a really nice guy, someone that will make you a cuppa if you feel low, will act as your pet monkey to make you feel better, how can you trash talk him :lol:

Mcgregor is a numbers man and prides himself on it. If he fights Frankie, the numbers will probably decrease as opposed to Chad or Jose. He will pick the most high profile match he can get next, and that would definitely be Cowboy if he can dethrone RDA.

I reckon the UFC will ask McGregor to move up and won't force him to vacate the belt. Then they give Frankie the option of waiting to fight Conor or taking on Jose to stay active. This was, they can say they gave him a choice and hope he loses to Jose as that would avoid the lower number McGregor vs. Frankie fight.
 
Name Changed said:
I wouldn't be surprised if there was tension. Dana did not look happy giving the belt to Conor. I expected to see him jumping for joy. Aldo is not a company guy so I would have presumed Dana would have been ecstatic.

Conor keeps going on about a 9 figure contract. Obviously that's ridiculous and never happening. Plus the UFC are saying the has to vacate the belt at 145 to go to 155 but Conor is saying that there's no way he'd vacate it.

It's all a bit weird.
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Yeah I wouldn't be surprised either.

Its hilarious if true. They treated Conor like a rockstar after a couple of fights, putting him in lavish hotels while others fighters were disputing meal tokens. Watching press conferences, you can tell he's starting to piss of a lot of other fighter, even those in other divisions.

I can see McGregor going up to 155 and taking that belt too only to announce that he needs his much delayed knee surgery which will hold up both 145 and 155 for 12 months.
 


This is quite sad. Aldo should look at his bank account and see how much he made for a 13 second fight to cheer himself up. Conor's not quitting any time soon so always a chance for revenge and hopefully a better fight plan. And this time, he should go into pressers with some Beats headphones on and not let all the smack talk get to his head.
 
Look at the pain on the guy in the beanie hat:

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Also Andre Pederneiras is one stoic individual. Like a traditional martial arts 'master'.

There's also 3 UFC champions in that shot but poor DJ probably couldn't see anything :lol:

Edit: There's actually 4 UFC champs in that shot. One is really hard to spot (and apparently has no emotion whatsoever).
 
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Rematch is a must for Aldo/Conor/the fans. Just look at the Dos Santos/Cain trilogy where JdS caught him in the first one then proceeded to get outclassed twice in the subsequent two. Trouble here is a strategic one for Dana/Lorenzo et al. If they have Conor face Aldo again and lose, the magical journey towards a 155 title fight would be torpedoed. Conor is now their cash cow and they are likely to make their decisions more so on profit logic than what the fans may want.
 


Can't help but love this guy... he's the kinda guy you meet once in detention at school and then he always talks to you randomly like you are best mates and you agree with everything he says so that you don't get a pounding :lol:
 
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