The stakes have risen even higher. The winner of Aldo vs. Gobshite will partner Rousey on the EA Sports UFC 2 cover.
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It's an issue of pain if the ACL isn't totally torn which obviously it wasn't. Even with a severed ACL, with a don-joy ACL brace or something similar, you can get through it if you are willing to deal with potential awful pain.
Obviously damage to the ligament is going to make it more likely to completely go, that said, unless the ACL is completely gone, the stability which is the big mechanical issue is still there. So it comes down to, if you tweak it, can you bite down and deal with the pain.
I have an anecdote regarding exactly this. I played my entire senior year of basketball with a totally blown ACL while I wore a don-joy.
As to your question regarding isn't that risky? Yes. Yes it is. When I tweaked my knee, even with the brace, and it did happen a few times. The pain was so excruciating (beyond the normal pain just from competing on it) that I was basically incapacitated by it for a couple of minutes. I'd hop off the court, sit on the bench for a few minutes, then get up, slowly walk around and within 5 to 10 minutes I was ready to go back in.
In a fight, you don't get that option. So ya, the risk Connor took even with a strained ACL was massive. A leg kick, planting and twisting, any of these things could cause the injury to be aggravated and the potential pain from that is, from my own experience, many many times worse than being kicked in the balls. Connor can't just say "time out" get subbed and then go walk it off for 10 minutes. If something happened, and he couldn't continue from the pain alone...
Big balls.
I still think Aldo smashes him
cant help you about vegas, but i'm sure its gonna be crazy.
are u planning on betting to make it more interesting? hehe
my early picks:
Featherweight José Aldo (c) vs. Conor McGregor (ic)
Middleweight Chris Weidman (c) vs. Luke Rockhold
Middleweight Ronaldo Souza vs. Yoel Romero
Welterweight Demian Maia vs. Gunnar Nelson
Featherweight Max Holloway vs. Jeremy Stephens
They weren't lying when they said Holly was a big deal in Albuquerque:
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MMA is for people who can't box -Tyson Fury
you know what if the point he is trying to make is that almost all MMA fighters are not good enough to box professionally he is probably right.
I think James Toney proved the reverse is also true
Even the crossover from Kickboxing to boxing is fairly minimal
But from a technical point of view the things you do to make yourself a good boxer leave you awfully exposed to certain kicks - and as Randy Couture showed against Toney to certain takedowns
Its about as relevant as saying football is for people who cant play rugby... but at least he is just saying something pointless for a change rather than something homophobic or sexist
In fairness to Fury though it's a selective quote. He did say he wouldn't stand a chance in an MMA match because they have skillsets that he doesn't have. He states that a lot of MMA fans ("die hards" and "Casuals") probably prefer fights when they are punching and kicking each other rather than just grappling. You could argue he he as a point and even the UFC are aware of it, stuff like the Ultimate Fighter, which I admit isn't targetted at huge die hard MMA fans, they kick contestants out for being "dull" and their definition of dull was just grappling or getting on top of the opponent to gain points.
Of course the massive contradiction in Fury's quotes is that he says he wants action and people kicking the shit out of each other which is fair enough if that's what he enjoys...what he chooses to ignore is that his fight vs. Wlad was ridiculously dull.
Featherweight José Aldo (c) vs. Conor McGregor (ic)
Middleweight Chris Weidman (c) vs. Luke Rockhold
Middleweight Ronaldo Souza vs. Yoel Romero
Welterweight Demian Maia vs. Gunnar Nelson
Featherweight Max Holloway vs. Jeremy Stephens
Middleweight Chris Weidman (c) vs. Luke Rockhold
Middleweight Ronaldo Souza vs. Yoel Romero
Welterweight Demian Maia vs. Gunnar Nelson
Featherweight Max Holloway vs. Jeremy Stephens
December is just an incredible month for MMA.
UFC Fight Night: VanZant/Namajunas card this Thursday (Northcutt on the main card too)
TUF Finale on Friday: Edgar/Mendes main event, Barboza/Ferguson as the supporter which should be incredible. Followed TUF too and should be a good final fight if it's Saul/Artem.
UFC 194 on Saturday: Aldo/McGregor, Weidman/Rockhold, Souza/Romero etc. Faber on the undercard too. Incredible card.
UFC on Fox a week after that: dos Anjos/Cerrone, dos Santos/Overeem, Johnson/Diaz etc. Another fantastic card.
4 brilliant shows coming up.
UFC Fight Night: VanZant/Namajunas card this Thursday (Northcutt on the main card too)
TUF Finale on Friday: Edgar/Mendes main event, Barboza/Ferguson as the supporter which should be incredible. Followed TUF too and should be a good final fight if it's Saul/Artem.
UFC 194 on Saturday: Aldo/McGregor, Weidman/Rockhold, Souza/Romero etc. Faber on the undercard too. Incredible card.
UFC on Fox a week after that: dos Anjos/Cerrone, dos Santos/Overeem, Johnson/Diaz etc. Another fantastic card.
4 brilliant shows coming up.
194 picks:
Featherweight José Aldo (c) vs. Conor McGregor (ic)
Middleweight Chris Weidman (c) vs. Luke Rockhold
Middleweight Ronaldo Souza vs. Yoel Romero
Welterweight Demian Maia vs. Gunnar Nelson
Featherweight Max Holloway vs. Jeremy Stephens
Want McGregor to win but think he's going to get beaten by Aldo. Weidman/Rockhold is ridiculously tough to call but I said I'd never bet against Rockhold again after he proved me wrong time and time again in his previous fights to get this title shot. Souza will finish Romero.
Featherweight José Aldo (c) vs. Conor McGregor (ic)
Middleweight Chris Weidman (c) vs. Luke Rockhold
Middleweight Ronaldo Souza vs. Yoel Romero
Welterweight Demian Maia vs. Gunnar Nelson
Featherweight Max Holloway vs. Jeremy Stephens
Want McGregor to win but think he's going to get beaten by Aldo. Weidman/Rockhold is ridiculously tough to call but I said I'd never bet against Rockhold again after he proved me wrong time and time again in his previous fights to get this title shot. Souza will finish Romero.
It's because of Artem TUF had to cut a fighter for stupid reasons this year and being dull was probably the most reasonable excuse they could think of.
They had to bring him back because of Conor so were left in a tricky situation balancing the brackets
Featherweight José Aldo (c) vs. Conor McGregor (ic)
Middleweight Chris Weidman (c) vs. Luke Rockhold
Middleweight Ronaldo Souza vs. Yoel Romero
Welterweight Demian Maia vs. Gunnar Nelson
Featherweight Max Holloway vs. Jeremy Stephens
Middleweight Chris Weidman (c) vs. Luke Rockhold
Middleweight Ronaldo Souza vs. Yoel Romero
Welterweight Demian Maia vs. Gunnar Nelson
Featherweight Max Holloway vs. Jeremy Stephens
Oh yeah don't get me wrong it was to create some kind of tension on a reality TV show but it does lend itself to agree that UFC think the best way of gaining fans or viewers is having entertaining fights which involve striking more than anything which was Fury's point. If anything he complimented MMA fighters on their ability to have different skill sets but said in a straight striking fight he'd beat them all which is something you'd except the heavyweight champion of the world to think.
Everytime I see a bump in this thread I get scared that someone from the card is injured... Stop it!
The Notorious Artem Lobov
Grappling can be plenty interesting, it's only lay and pray that isn't. Watching Maia, Jacare or a fight like Smolka - Holohan are all entertaining. Mostly though it's the freedom and variation in the fights that make it great. I struggle to watch boxing anymore with it being so restricted and constant clinches being broken up.
The final press conference:
Off work on Friday so can stay up and watch tomorrow's card.
The annoyance of my Xmas party on Friday nite to contend with watching Friday's card and still being in condition to stay up Saturday night.
Either way a lot of alcohol will be consumed
The annoyance of my Xmas party on Friday nite to contend with watching Friday's card and still being in condition to stay up Saturday night.
Either way a lot of alcohol will be consumed
That was 85% of the conference only Connor talking
as usual. Good fun. Rockhold surprised me with his words and aura of confidence (overconfidence?), but Weidman giggling is much more unsettling. Epic fight.
i got a wedding on saturday... somehow need to bail out in the middle of it.
Pretty sure his brother pushed him on a grill when they were young
I haven't kept up with MMA, so can someone tell me if Connor's size at this weight gives him an advantage over most of his opponents. From what I have seen he seems to have a significant size/power advantage.
I do prefer the technical/ more purist fighters, and Aldo seems to fit that bill, but Connor does seem to have a nice balance of aggression and technical ability.....
I do prefer the technical/ more purist fighters, and Aldo seems to fit that bill, but Connor does seem to have a nice balance of aggression and technical ability.....
I'm so jealous, it's going to be an awesome event. Enjoy!
Aldo will break your boy though.
Watched the weigh-in and holy shit I didn't know Pfister looked like that compared to Northcutt. He's going to die.
less advantage than in a boxing fight, but yeah, some advantage for sure. Of course you need to know how to use that advantage. Connor has the best punching technique in the division and his punches are crazy powerful and clinical. After he lands the first couple of straight punches to Aldo's nose, Aldo will try to take the fight to the ground because there is no way he can resist a stand up exchange for long. In the press conference Aldo avoided answering about Connor's weaknesses so he could use them in the fight... but its pretty obvious his only chance is taking him down.
in the ground, height and reach advantage still a bit relevant. Chad Mendes put Connor on his back, but he is so short he could never generated the power necessary for his punches and elbows on the ground to produce real damage. With Aldo is gonna be different.
that guy is unreal... (no homo)the other guy is like "oh shit im good as dead" and Dana is thinking "i hope northcott kills him with a helicopter kick"
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You can see it on his face, "ha ha... what the hell have I gotten myself into, I'm about to die...." He's smiling because if he doesn't he'll keel over.
less advantage than in a boxing fight, but yeah, some advantage for sure. Of course you need to know how to use that advantage. Connor has the best punching technique in the division and his punches are crazy powerful and clinical. After he lands the first couple of straight punches to Aldo's nose, he will try to take the fight to the ground because there is no way Aldo can resist a stand up exchange for long. In the press conference Aldo avoided answering about Connor's weaknesses so he could use them in the fight... but its pretty obvious his only chance is taking him down.
in the ground, height and reach advantage still a bit relevant. Chad Mendes put Connor on his back, but he is so short he could never generated the power necessary for his punches and elbows on the ground to produce real damage. With Aldo is gonna be different.
the other guy is like "oh shit im good as dead" and Dana is thinking "i hope northcott kills him with a helicopter kick"
Cheers for that.....Going to try and watch this fight...Has been a while. I remembered being wowed by Jon Jones all that time ago...looking fwd to it.
i knew when watching the embedded series something gonna came out from that moment. Connor is a superstar.
Gonna watch the last episode of TUF (Uriah invited Jose Aldo lol) now and start getting into the fight zone for tonight... and tomorrow... and after tomorrow.
Great series of TUF
Love Artem I do, although as soon as he meets a wrestler he is in trouble. Ryan Hall is great on the mat so the final is gonna be hard. Shame for The real finalist to lose that oppertunity.
McGregor reaction to seeing Aldo was class
Love Artem I do, although as soon as he meets a wrestler he is in trouble. Ryan Hall is great on the mat so the final is gonna be hard. Shame for The real finalist to lose that oppertunity.
McGregor reaction to seeing Aldo was class
Should be interesting to see now since they've spent some time training together in Ireland too. Might negate a bit of the grappling advantage of Hall since he showed Artem some of his holds and defenses etc.
I think it's amazing how the results are kept under wraps. You would think stuff like Saul been banned would have leaked
just finished the episode... such a shame.
can't stand ryan hall... so ill be hoping for Artem to KO him out.
ps. Artem have been amazing during the show. Funny guy and KO artist. I remember he was really average in that first loss, and i wasn't that excited with him going back in. But...