From what I'm reading it seems like the Brazilian fans were every bit as bad as the Irish. Which is fine really, no actual harm has been done.
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From what I'm reading it seems like the Brazilian fans were every bit as bad as the Irish. Which is fine really, no actual harm has been done.
Well neither are "clean cut" MMA fighters like Jon Jones and Anderson Silva, clearly.
I certainly doubt it would have the same amount of hype without this circus though, so in that regard it is working for the UFC, cringe worthy or not. I wouldn't be surprised to see more of these in the future. Compare the general excitement for this fight to Jones/Johnson which has received barely any promotion so far, it's night and day.
Unfortunately I'd say it's long gone now. They'll try and market it for all it's worth with a few fights by doing stuff like this if it proves to be successful which I suspect it will be. I find it cringing as well as I do in boxing but it's become part of the sport there.
There's certain fights that promote themselves....in boxing at the moment for example Mayweather hasn't been his usual trash talking self as he knows people will buy the fight. For the majority of fights though they will always feel they can do with a bit more promotion.
At the end of the day combat sports aren't really high on morals by the pure definition of them really. It's people kicking the shit out of each other for a while, whilst it's a talent and an art form it's not one which can be perceived as having a huge moral compass.
He definetley gets alot more media attention because he is so outspoken, he realises it makes him money and is the reason he is so popular right now, of course he doesnt have to do it but I people like Mayweather, Prince Naseem etc were the same
There is nothing immoral in agreeing to kick each other asses.
Edit: And to be honest the face of Aldo when McGregor takes the belt is priceless.
The promotion for this fight has been quite cringey but it's working because a few of my mates were texting me about it earlier and they aren't really ufc fans. Aldo seems to be being underestimated for some reason? I've enjoyed watching Conor but he comes across as being quite immature and a massive twat. Hard to root for him really and I hope Aldo puts him in his place.
It's only going to get more and more like this, bet every main event being like this would be ideal for Dana.
I'm sure this thread will be packed with fairweather UFC fans for the fight too, myself included.
This fella has it spot on.
OMG! A few posts on twitter! An Miguel Delaney, what an absolute ignorant cnut. As if football fans are these morally superior beings. A sport filled with racism and corruption.
Whatever anybody is saying about the fight or Conor they will all stay up and tune in on July 11th hate or love him
Exactly. They'll be all watching.
I've actually gained a degree of respect for McGregor throughout this when i realized its not him but the UFC that is responsible for the circus atmosphere.
They did the same with Jones-Cormier, they want people to peak a side, which will create even more anticipation.
If you were Dana would you do the same? in this world of tweeting and sharing videos and them going viral, he is gold, bringing so much attention to there biggest PPV of the year, he would be stupid not to drain Conor for every last cent he can make him
I don't think I would to be honest. UFC is growing fast organically and doesn't need the WWE circus to pad the PPV numbers. I realize this is all about greed and money (aka "Business") but there needs to be a balance.
Bit late for that I'm afraid.
Controversy creates cash man, love it or hate it UFC is more popular than ever because of it, even if you have only seen it once or twice, you cant miss it when logging into social media sites these days, like the X-Factor sob stories (i dont know if they do that on the US version) it allows fans to get more emotionally invested in contestents or in this case fighters.
If you hate him you cant wait to see him get his ass beat, if you love him your gonna follow him everywhere and on every show he appears on, with the signing of CM Punk this was definetly on the minds of UFC officials, also Ronda Rousey appearing on Wrestlemania this weekend, they are marketing there fighters differently these days, like celebrities,its showbiz..baby
I'm all for controversy as long as its real, not artificially manufactured to make a buck. If McGregor and Aldo legitimately didn't like each other, it would create a lot of natural controversy to promote the fight.
McGregor is a jumped up little shit who's going to get his arse handed to him.
It started funny but it went way overboard. The fan questions were ridiculous. I hope Aldo wins and shuts them all up.
Is that not what every fight press conference is though? artificially manufacutred grounds for promoting a fight and getting people interested, if they spoke the same language it would make for alot more conflict, but the fact eachother have to be explained what the other said 10 seconds later doesnt help. Mcgregor has been a knob throughout admitedly, but everybody is talking about it now, much like me and you are, "i hate that guy i hope he gets knocked out" etc etc, its working perfectly, its been a bit of a circus with the tour though, one presser is enough
How come there's no Welsh UFC fighters anyway? Do all the tough Welsh blokes end up not winning anything at rugby instead?
My point is artificially manufactured = fake, which is a bit silly even if it gets people who ordinarily don't watch UFC interested. There has to be a point where the UFC balances the insatiable need to make money with its own credibility.
Its credibility has been most threatened most of all by all the recent doping scandals. Generating a constant flow of media content with all the shenanigans on this silly tour might even be a clever diversionary tactic. Far better we're all talking about this then Jones' fall from grace.
I guess Wales is content to have provided the best British and European pound-for-pound boxer of the last 20 years (if not ever), as far as fighting goes. And funny that you should mention rugby, seeing as though Wales is (after NZ of course) clearly the greatest pound-for-pound rugby nation in the world.
Shocking presser tbf then again if they allowed drunk fans to ask questions directly at other such promo events I suspect it would be no different...Poorly organised more than anything else.
that post is so full of wrong. What was the last trophy this second greatest "pound for pound" (whatever that means) rugby team won?
Not even getting into the nonsense about boxing...
Look, it seems a lot of people are losing their shit about nothing. These press conferences are and have been a joke and embarrassment for a long time. Watch how McGregor was treated in Rio the first time around and it was worse. At the very least, the Brazilian fans didn't get their heads kicked in, I guarantee you if an Irish fan did that in Rio that's what would've happened.
What was the last trophy this second greatest "pound for pound" (whatever that means) rugby team won?
Not even getting into the nonsense about boxing...
By p4p I meant that when you consider the tiny size of its population, Wales in clearly second only to NZ in rugby. Maybe your rugby memory isn't that good, but the last thing we won was the 6 Nations in 2013, after having won it in 2012 as well. I know Irish rugby fans are very cocky at the moment, and in fairness for good reason (even though we did beat you this year), but let's not forget that Wales is still the joint leader (with England) when it comes to all time 6/5/4 Nations trophies.
And as for boxing, yes, I think it is pretty clear that Joe Calzaghe is the greatest pound-for-pound boxer Britain or even Europe has produced in recent memory, if not ever. This douchebag Mcgregor would love to retire with even a fraction of the respect in his sport that Calzaghe enjoys in his. But I wouldn't count on it, because he's going to have his cocky head kicked in by a proper fighter at UFC 189.
I found it all a bit cringey and poorly organised. I stopped watching as soon as the fans started passing round the mic asking stupid questions. The irish will jump on the bandwagon at every oppertunity. But very annoying when I see respected journos like Delaney questioning the sport.
But I still cannot fecking wait for the fight. I'm not overly confident but it would be amazing if he takes it on the night.
I do wonder how he will react to a loss though. I know his two early defeats in his career he took them well. But this is a a whole new situation
But I still cannot fecking wait for the fight. I'm not overly confident but it would be amazing if he takes it on the night.
I do wonder how he will react to a loss though. I know his two early defeats in his career he took them well. But this is a a whole new situation
Calzaghe = great fighter, but I think Lennox Lewis would have a thing to say about that statement though. But I guess that is one for the Boxing thread.
For me the legacy of the heavyweight division during that era (as exciting as it was) is hampered somewhat by the fact that most of them were using steroids. But even so, Lewis was certainly a great fighter, even if he wasn't natural.
Just watched the press conference in Dublin there of McGregor-Aldo and as a Irish man I'm ashamed, absolute scum and no respect toward Aldo and I reckon he'll be even more motivated to knock McGregor out after this.
The "questions" he was asked were vile, we have a good reputation for having the craic and that but we went beyond that tonight
The "questions" he was asked were vile, we have a good reputation for having the craic and that but we went beyond that tonight
I suspect it's all just marketing, fight promotion BS. Connor is a good fighter, better than good, but he gets people to tune in more for his bravado than for his skill. Just look at how much more he aims to make, even if he loses to Aldo.
He probably has someone from Zuffa writing his lines for him at this point, with so much money riding on his trash talking.
He probably has someone from Zuffa writing his lines for him at this point, with so much money riding on his trash talking.
What kind of questions was he asked?
I believe one fellow asked "What does José's pussy smell like?"
Much as I don't mind the "circus", some of those fans were absolutely horrible.
Oddly enough, I got the vague impression McGregor himself was a bit embarrassed by the crowd. He played along with it, but you could tell he was a bit taken aback by the rowdiness and lack of respect shown to Aldo.