Exactly.
You have to applaud McGregor for the way he's turned the UFC upside down.
You have to applaud McGregor for the way he's turned the UFC upside down.
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McGregor is apparently getting PPV points and will make much more than Aldo, which is a bit bizarre given that the champ is considered the best pound for pound fighter in MMA (along side Jones).
I think I heard Dana say that the fight was bringing in 77m at the gate. That's all because of McGregor. Love or hate the guy he's a massive attraction.
Its probably more so because of the Aldo-McGregor matchup than because of McGregor acting like he's a displaced WWE member. Nick Diaz also talks a lot of trash but doesn't get this kind of attention.
McGregor has backed it up everytime though. He's knocking guys out in the first round. Aldo hasn't taken a guy out in the last 5 years.
Not correct. He TKO'd Chan Sung Jung less than 2 years ago and also KO'd Chad Mendes. McGregor has looked impressive mainly because he's been ko'ing a bunch of scrubs in Dublin then fighting the mighty Dennis Siver in the states. He has yet to fight a top contender much less one of the best fighters in all of MMA. Needless to say, i'll be very impressed if he wins.
The Mendes one was a fluke knee in my opinion.
I'm Irish so your going to have to excuse my bias
. Justin Poirier certainly is no scub.McGregor is good no doubt about it but has not faced the elite in the weight class (Edgar, Chad, Cub or Lamas) so to bypass all that experience he could have gained with fighting one of these guys and going straight into a fight against a guy who is SO dominant in a stacked division will be his undoing.
I'm looking forward to McGregor surprising some of you.
According to Dana, McGregor slapped the back of Aldo's head and now Aldo's refusing to do media!
According to Dana, McGregor slapped the back of Aldo's head and now Aldo's refusing to do media!
Conor's got him right where he wants him I believe.
Yes, I agree. I'm sure McGregor is capable of winning but has not really fought any decent opposition yet which has created the illusion that he is better than he actually is.
Thing is, McGregor has dismantled anyone he's fought so far in the featherweight division so even if he loses he hasn't got much to prove. I know there's a couple he'd like to fight but surely he'll move weight division soon, unlike Aldo.
Well, if he loses he will have to go through Mendes and Edgar if he wants another title fight, which will be years, and there's no guarantee he will beat both of them. Its also massive for Aldo in that he will probably reassert himself as the greatest pound for pound fighter in MMA alongside Jones.
Good luck with that. McGregor is way too open and Aldo is lethal. If he closes the distance and connects then he'll finish McGregor. Not a shadow of doubt for me that Aldo goes into this fight as the favorite, some people are really underestimating how good Aldo is.
Same should be said regarding McGregor. It's two quality fighters and anything could happen. McGregor genuinely could put Aldo down in the first round, Aldo could do the same.
Probably down to there being a big British Isles contingent here. McGregor is their boy.
Put him down as in submit or TKO him ? I don't think that's likely.
Korean Zombie had dislocated his shoulder and then Aldo TKO'd him. The Mendes Knee KO was great although he did grab the fence a couple of seconds before that to avoid being taken down.
Aldo is one of my favourite fighters, but I love how McGregor fights too so I don't care who wins as long as it's a great fight.
(Poirier wasn't a scrub, was a top 5 featherweight and McGregor made it easy. He is clearly very skilled)
I'm impressed with McGregor as well but would rather he drop the WWE clown show and stick to proving himself inside the Octagon. I can see why he does it and why White and the Fertitas probably like it - it brings more PPV dollars in and raises the UFC's profile to new levels. Its still annoying though to have fighters grandstand the way the likes of Diaz and McGregor do.
I love Nick Diaz as well
But I think Diaz and McGregor are vastly different. Diaz just has social anxiety and clearly hates speaking in public so says weird/awkward stuff. I think he said before that he hates fighting too and is terrified of it in the cage, I honestly think when Diaz is doing all that taunting shit in the ring, it's to convince himself he isn't scared.As for McGregor, he's just a troll and likes thinking his opponents will come in fighting emotional, which won't work on Aldo I reckon. You don't become one of the P4P in the sport for such a long time by letting emotions cloud your abilities in the ring.
You either love or hate McGregor but you can't deny he's done great work in raising publicity for the UFC, certainly more than Aldo. Think we can all appreciate that.
I've no doubt in my mind McGregor could win by TKO in the first round. That left hook is something else and Aldo knows McGregor has that reach on him.
I suppose so, but its unlikely given Aldo's record. He hasn't lost in 10 years and isn't even fighting the top contender in his division. I think people are getting a bit intoxicated with McGregor's trash talk and extrapolating fantasies that he will be as good against Aldo as he was finishing minnowish fighters in the UFC lower divisions.
He beat Poirier comfortably as well, who is much a much better fighter than Siver I reckon. Let's not forget Chad was actually beating Aldo for most of that fight, the guy certainly has his weaknesses. Having said that, McGregor still has his work cut out for him, could go either way. Personally it is not his trash talk that is impressing me but rather his confidence in the ring and the fact he is coming out of the Octagon without a scratch on him against some of the best fighters in his weight division. He has an excellent reach, along with a great left hand and some excellent movement. This will be a cracker of a match for sure.
I like McGregor's style and the confidence it exudes - its very classy and graceful looking. Aldo will definitely have his work cut out when they meet and he will not only be out to keep his title but also show that the Mendes fight was an exception.
McGregor is no.4 so he is a top contender.
I thought the top contender would be the No 2 fighter, but I guess Aldo has already beat him twice.
I think it's more than fair that McGregor is getting the title shot, especially if you look at who is left. Mendes' run to his second title shot was impressive but he wasn't beating the elite of the division either:
Nik Lentz
Clay Guida
Darren Elkins
Yaotzin Meza
Cody McKenzie
Is that more impressive than...
Dennis Siver
Dustin Poirier
Diego Brandão
Max Holloway
Marcus Brimage
So not sure why it's such a big deal McGregor is next in line after Mendes if you look at who both beat. Aldo has beaten everyone else so why not throw in someone new?
Nik Lentz
Clay Guida
Darren Elkins
Yaotzin Meza
Cody McKenzie
Is that more impressive than...
Dennis Siver
Dustin Poirier
Diego Brandão
Max Holloway
Marcus Brimage
So not sure why it's such a big deal McGregor is next in line after Mendes if you look at who both beat. Aldo has beaten everyone else so why not throw in someone new?
Interesting. I wonder how McGregor managed to get this far without fighting either Mendes or Edgar ?
Mendes managed to get the title shot again without fighting Edgar, Swanson, Poirier or Lamas! Edgar got a title shot coming off a loss to Benson Henderson at lightweight...guys manage to avoid tough fighters all the time that people complain about.
The last person Chris Weidman fought before fighting Anderson Silva was Mark Munoz...
The last person Gustaffson fought before nearly beating Jon Jones was Shogun rua...
TJ Dillashaw had lost, and then won one fight against Mike Easton before he beat Barao.
TBF McGregor has said that his persona is purely to milk as much money as possible as quickly as possible. I think his knee injury opened his eyes to how fragile a career like his is. The fact is that anything can happen in a fight and just one bit of bad luck could potentially end your career or put you out of action for years. I do think he takes it too far and some of the insults are over the top but he's just selling the fight. He also has reiterated that he respects every fighter he comes up against, in fact I'd wager that beyond his antics he respects Aldo much more than Aldo respects him. People can call him a joker all they like and complain about who he has fought but the fact is he has not only defeated but demolished pretty much everyone put in front of him. He has more of a chance than most think I reckon.
On Aldo, the guy is a beast and I do expect him to win the fight. People say it's a pity that more focus isn't put on him but that's because of how he carries himself (ironically the reason Conor has so much attention is why people dislike him so much). Aldo could be that attention grabbing guy if he wanted but it's not his way of doing things. The guy is one of the best fighters UFC has ever had and regardless of what happens he'll go down as a Legend.
The fact so many are literally giving Conor no chance seems a bit stupid to me. Aldo's the better fighter but I don't think anyone he has faced has the power to hit him the way McGregor does. I reckon one of them will knock the other out, fancy Aldo to just about win in the end.
I think McGregror's wide karate-like stance will give Aldo some problems initially but he's a very intelligent fighter who's good at adjusting to his opponent's style. This fight will go the distance. Both guys prefer to stand and neither has ever been KOd or TKOd. Either way this will not be a one sided fight im fairly confident of that.
I think reach will be the main problem for Aldo. McGregor clearly has it.
Conor has the reach advantage for sure. But Aldo has probably the best head movement in the division and i think he will be able to deal with it as the fight moves on. Also Aldo has been very hesitant to use his kicks in recent fights, which was one of his biggest weapons in WEC, because of his fear of being taken down. This won't be the case against Conor. Aldo has the speed advantage too. I think Conor hits harder though and his confidence is amazing. Fascinating matchup.
Dublin press conference just started. It is crazy, McGregor just snatched Aldo's belt lollll. Almost started a riot.
http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/3/31/8314735/ufc-189-world-tour-press-conference-dublin
It's only 5 minutes in. I recommend scrolling back a bit and seeing the belt snatch lol.
http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/3/31/8314735/ufc-189-world-tour-press-conference-dublin
It's only 5 minutes in. I recommend scrolling back a bit and seeing the belt snatch lol.
fecking amazing scenes.
what a riot.Aldo's face looks like thunder. I don't think I've ever seen such a hostile crowd, I thought the Brazilians didn't care but the Irish today. Wow,