Ok let's just see if ETH will be sacked in the next few days. If he isn't, we just end up having our cup preparations ruined for crap news.
The Guardian - Manchester United to sack Erik ten Hag after the FA Cup Final
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Ok let's just see if ETH will be sacked in the next few days. If he isn't, we just end up having our cup preparations ruined for crap news.
Exclusive? In that case there is no need to write sources. Lets hear the name of them. Don’t hide behind sources and write things that are not good for our preparation before final. This could have been talked about tomorrow.
What is this with fanboys? That has nothing to do with timing of so called news. I don’t expect being beaten that easy. It is final. We have been doing well against bigger teams. That other team are favorite but we should not just surrender.
If you are going to report something like this and day before final you better mention who your sources are. If you are going to report you should think about club taking some decision because you are trying to put negativity before important final. That is why I would ban them for a period of time to teach them that there is time and place for everything. Day before final is not that. Those news could have been printed day after.“Yeah, let me not report the news (likely a scoop) because United is playing in a final, and as a journalist that’s top of my pyramid of concerns - followed by making sure we report news in a manner that makes United fans feel good about our behaviour.”
I understand bans if what they’re reporting is completely made-up/baseless, but if you start banning journalists for simply reporting the newsWe’ll soon see the validity of said reporting, but it’s worth mentioning United has had plenty opportunity to deny it - which they haven’t.
Problem is that you don’t write that day before final. It is not normal. If its true or not is not important. It is timing of it.
Preparations ruined is such an exaggeration
It’s awful. Very low standards. You can see how other outlets are creeping cautiously by.
Oh. Thanks for telling us.
To be fair, it was never going to be based on a single game. That was a false narrative. A billion pound operation isn't going to make long term decisions based on a one off cup game.
Seems so, yes
Well, this is going to be a shit show.
Preparations 'disturbed' then. It's definitely not a positive for us, so he better be right about his news.
Nah, owners are allowed to change their minds.
He just left the room too early. They were about to finish their sentence: „We want to rebuild with you… gone.“
He didn't really draw games so the win percentage was somewhat binary.
Perhaps it came from an early conversation after they'd just taken over. He may also be misinterpreting what was said, or twisting it to save his pride. We don't know. But I very much doubt anyone at Ineos explicitly told him within the past month he's definitively staying. It's been a disaster and obviously serious owners aren't going to tolerate it.
I don't think it's so much that he's lying, but he's obviously gone all in on the same information other journalists seemed to also have. The consensus seems to be that the club have at least spoken to people representing managers looking for work. You can probably construe that as they're going to sack him, but I doubt that was what any source for this story was actually saying, or being told.
The Guardian have gone with this angle because they know the club will most likely not respond to it, or be forced to deny it, in which case they then look like liars if they do decide to replace him. It's garnered huge interaction, which is what they really wanted. Other outlets are now using this story as a source and writing hit pieces against the club for how this has been handled, even though they've probably done nothing different to when any other club is looking to replace a manager.
Maybe I'm just naïve, but we haven't really learned anything knew, have we? We all know it's been a crap season and that it's 50/50 at best if EtH stays regardless of the final outcome today. We know that ideally the club wanted to wait until Ashworth had been officially hired, but that's being held up, so they're having to make contingencies. We all know that every club puts out the feelers to try and ensure they can get their guy before replacing a manager, otherwise you end up like Spurs after Mourinho left and you get Nuno.
It's shit this has happened, but I blame this more on a Chelsea journalist trying to get a big scoop ahead of everyone else, more so than the club.
i think the club would have made an official statement as soon as the news broke refuting the claims if it was untrue. But we’ve had radio silence. This is his last match as Manchester United manager.
Underperforming manager gets sacked.
I'm sure the candidates will have had preliminary talks already at the very least, so communication in such a way is as unneeded as it would be idiotic.
If they were given information by a source they trusted why wouldn't they publish? It is their job.
Probably guess. Trying to ramp up the pressure to try and make it a competitive game. Or everyone’s 100% certain city are winning and know that ETH will be getting sacked due to poor performances and a trophyless season.
Some of the pant wetting over this news is a bit overboard. The prep for the final should've been done and dusted midweek, and elite sportsmen should not be distracted by newspaper tittle tattle. The idea that's its put a spanner in our match preparations is absurd.
We've not had an atrocious 10 years. There's been ups and downs. And every single manager was rightly sacked. It's not a question at all of manager being THE problem. He doesn't have to be.
it kind of gives the players an excuse to lose. Quite a few of them love an excuse
If only we had some. Rashford stays up all night reading hate comments on twitter. These lot are obsessed with media headlines.
They must get it from the manager.
Anyway we don't need any excuses if we lose. Everyone expects us to lose. We're a rubbish team. Obviously the chances are extremely high we'll lose regardless of any external factors
Of course it is distraction. This kind of ”news” is done with something in mind. To undermine manager, to confuse players, to put negative cloud over the club. This is not hard to understand.
Why don’t we hear anything about that other team and about that elephant in the room that is yet to be decided? Why don’t journalist start quoting some ”sources” about that day before final.
Roy Keane would approve of this
Real shame, I kind of figured it would happen and it’s a results based business but I think it’s the wrong decision currently. Think he still had more to show at Utd.
You think say Dalot or Bruno or Mainoo have suddenly been unable to do their usual prep because of this? Absurd
The players have been playing every week knowing the manager might get sacked at any point. If anything they've just had an uncertainty removed from their heads. They don't have to worry about the manager, they can go out and play their game.
It's a derby cup final, not a chance the players are in anyway distracted. We'll get smashed though and those of you who want to use it as an excuse will.
Oh come on, do you think I was born yesterday? That’s clearly been photoshopped, Ten Hag on an electric bicycle? He runs 10k with the players every day, it’s a known fact that his mantra is “if running was easy they’d call it cycling” and that’s why he’s fallen out with Brailsford.explain this then-
Huh?
Why would journalists not publish something because it was a bit mean to United?
Maybe in some strange way it could help us. feck all else has worked this season
I think the criticism aimed at the club here is unfair. It’s unlikely they leaked and would much rather have all this drama happen after the cup final. Ten Hag has been dead man walking for weeks but with the manager movements hotting up the club have been forced to start the new manager process. It would be negligence if they’d sat on their hands and not started talking to the potential candidates while they went elsewhere.
explain this then-
Why has he got his front headlight on in broad daylight?
I knew he'd be sacked. Now who replaces him?
100%. It's absolutely what he deserves when you look at it without bias. These outraged right now would be outraged if we sacked him too soon after the final, or if we sack him at all if we win it.
the man is mentally ill.
It was a joke relating to LvG getting sacked almost imediately after winning the cup-final
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