Well the team didn't seem to mind, what bizarre thing to put a day before the final.
The Guardian - Manchester United to sack Erik ten Hag after the FA Cup Final
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Big answer from tenHag!
Well, I think we have more bounce left in this team. It's a shame this performance will be a rarity. 
I don't think we get sacked manager bounce. I could be wrong though, in these mental times.
I don't think we get sacked manager bounce. I could be wrong though, in these mental times.Did it help that us that this was leaked before the game?
Players tried harder for the manager in-order to give him a good send off?
Anyway, the journalist is still a cnut.
Players tried harder for the manager in-order to give him a good send off?
Anyway, the journalist is still a cnut.
Maybe ETH leaked this, a masterful mind game move to lull City into a false sense that we’re not focused 
"ruined match preparations"
It’s cute people think we ever had a chance tomorrow that this news would somehow derail us
Looks like the club has been briefing journalists, will likely let things cool off for a few days before announcing anything one way or another.
I don’t think this is the case, but if this was indeed true, this has got to be up there with fergie’s mind gamesMaybe ETH leaked this, a masterful mind game move to lull City into a false sense that we’re not focused
Yes, This is a possibility. Another more cynical view is that they are trying to impress whoever may be coming in.
Either way, there’s a trophy to win and that’s probably enough motivation for the manager and players to end the season on a positive note.
Pretty safe and non confrontational articles and can just be written from a common sense viewpoint as surely every club will assess a season at completion.
This idiot at the Guardian took the chance and rolled the dice so let us see what numbers come up.
Think its the right thing to do despite a good performance as the small team vs the big team pulling off the win on a day where City missed their chances and played more inaccruate passes than normal
Is he the first manager to win trophies in consecutive seasons since Sir Alex? And technically the second most successful since Sir Alex?
Depends on how you rank Jose's League Cup and Europa League wins vs FA Cup and League Cup. Jose also finished 2nd vs Ten Hag's 3rd. You probably have to give it to Mourinho still.
Meh we have had enough to data to make a decision already. Reeks of the sluggishness of past regimes. Chelsea might beat us to a target by the time we complete this assessment.
Yes he is, although this isn’t the first time we’ve done it in consecutive seasons. Trophy won in 15/16 and 16/17 just with different managers. He’s not the most successful, that is Mouriniho with a community shield ahead of him and second place finish is better than ETH’s third.
After the images of yesterday I'd be so sad if we sack EtH. Not only that we won and how we won, but the way the players celebrated and seemed to stand behind EtH was special (like Martinez lifting EtH at the final whistle or when EtH praised Garnacho and Mainoo like a father and they both looked just so proud and happy). But I am a sentimental fart and probably shouldn't run a football club.
Europa League > FA Cup for me.
Also Mourinho had far less to spend on transfers.
Hope we keep Ten Hag and send a message to the players.
We need to be aggressive with incomings and outgoings.
We need to be aggressive with incomings and outgoings.
I’m sure the decision is made one way or the other. We might even have a successor agreed. But after the story broke on Friday and the way people still talk about LVG’s sacking I think they’re just taking a pause to make it seem like they’re taking everything into account.
What message? You can't put all the blame on the players. Ten Hag tactically has underwhelmed.
It would take someone with a heart of stone to not be immensely proud and fully appreciative of EtH and his men yesterday, or not to admire his bold OT address, or even not to be incensed at the appalling press conference straight after we deservedly won the FA against what many consider the best team in world football.
All that said, if we're going to be a successful club again, we're going to need to be a lot less emotive or sentimental in our decision making than some of the themes I've seen emerge from yesterday's victory.
Remember how hysterical we were after beating Liverpool? It didn't change a thing.
We played Wolves at the start of the season and had 37 more league games to rectify the huge problems that were apparent, and we didn't until Arsenal towards the end of the season (and when we made the changes the fans, ex-players and pundits had been crying for, we improved). We've thrown leads away comically on most competitions including a 3-0 lead away to a lower league side, EtH persisted with underperforming players and benched (or completely ignored) the likes of Amad even when they showed they were better.
And talking of injuries, how many of those were self inflicted by training sessions, the fact that EtH doesn't really use his squad if he doesn't have to, and the fact we basically looked like an even more erratic, older, more expensively assembled version of Bielsa's Leeds who had to run the entire length of the pitch back and forth for most of the season because we had a huge structural hole in the middle of the park, and we kept on trying low percentage long balls straight to the forwards?
We cannot be so dependent on specific players that we fall apart in their absence. It's difficult to know why the club leadership were so inept behind the scenes and INEOS has thankfully gone about removing the management structure, however, EtH is not just a victim of the structure, he's part of it, in fact, in some ways he played a part in designing it by insisting on full control. With his this control he pushed for very questionable and wasteful signings that turned out to be just that.
I'll let the professionals do their job, but I have gradually lost more and more confidence in his ability to lead us to success over the course of the season and his weird views on our performances during recent press conferences (one of the latest being we were better than City in last year's FA cup final) do not help.
If by some miracle he stays on, we'll all jump on the support bandwagon but it would be pure hope rather than actual evidence that I'd be riding on.
All that said, if we're going to be a successful club again, we're going to need to be a lot less emotive or sentimental in our decision making than some of the themes I've seen emerge from yesterday's victory.
Remember how hysterical we were after beating Liverpool? It didn't change a thing.
We played Wolves at the start of the season and had 37 more league games to rectify the huge problems that were apparent, and we didn't until Arsenal towards the end of the season (and when we made the changes the fans, ex-players and pundits had been crying for, we improved). We've thrown leads away comically on most competitions including a 3-0 lead away to a lower league side, EtH persisted with underperforming players and benched (or completely ignored) the likes of Amad even when they showed they were better.
And talking of injuries, how many of those were self inflicted by training sessions, the fact that EtH doesn't really use his squad if he doesn't have to, and the fact we basically looked like an even more erratic, older, more expensively assembled version of Bielsa's Leeds who had to run the entire length of the pitch back and forth for most of the season because we had a huge structural hole in the middle of the park, and we kept on trying low percentage long balls straight to the forwards?
We cannot be so dependent on specific players that we fall apart in their absence. It's difficult to know why the club leadership were so inept behind the scenes and INEOS has thankfully gone about removing the management structure, however, EtH is not just a victim of the structure, he's part of it, in fact, in some ways he played a part in designing it by insisting on full control. With his this control he pushed for very questionable and wasteful signings that turned out to be just that.
I'll let the professionals do their job, but I have gradually lost more and more confidence in his ability to lead us to success over the course of the season and his weird views on our performances during recent press conferences (one of the latest being we were better than City in last year's FA cup final) do not help.
If by some miracle he stays on, we'll all jump on the support bandwagon but it would be pure hope rather than actual evidence that I'd be riding on.
Just take the transfers away from the man; he's a good coach, he makes players better - he's worked wonders with Dalot, with Mainoo, with Garnacho in particular. Just dont let him be the transfer man anymore.
Think it obvious now that being a Chelsea journo/fan he didn’t want us to do well given we took their EL spot.
MOTD highlights edited out the confrontational Shearer remarks to ETH. Chance for BEEB to be the old school, classy home of football, missed yesterday. Match going Supporters have been great in ETH season 2. Keep him. Fix the mess in other departments. You never know. Maybe the sports authorities find their mojo. This might turn out to be a Swansong for a bald manager, just a different one.
That should be the case whether we keep Ten Hag or replace him. Obviously, the manager should continue to have input into player recruitment, but if we can get some competent people into the key recruitment positions, we shouldn't be allowing the manager to dictate the policy.
To be fair, Ten Hag probably had very little faith in our player recruitment structure when he arrived (with good reason, Murtough et al hardly showed themselves in a good light previously) and likely therefore felt he needed to take matters into his own hands. That cannot continue, though, and I imagine that ascertaining Ten Hag's willingness to let go of the reigns a bit in this area is one of the things that will inform INEOS's decision about whether to keep him. You'd imagine that what INEOS want is a first team head coach, rather than a traditional, all-encompassing 'manager'.
Not for me at all. Second rate European competition vs first rate domestic competition, arguably the best domestic competition in the world. We beat Liverpool and City in the FA Cup, while in the EL we didn't come up against any team we weren't strong favourites to beat.
It was a good achievement all the same, but doesn't compare to winning the FA Cup like this imo
Yep most likely scenario.
Don't think you can say that after the season we've just had.
It’s cute people think we ever had a chance tomorrow that this news would somehow derail us
Possibly but he wasn't the only or even the first journalist to claim similar last week. Once United started talking to replacements there was no feasible way for the story not to leak.
Decisions already made, they're just letting things cool off for a few days.
Absolutely f*ck this club if they leaked this at that point. What a disgrace, it’s overshadowed a fantastic win. It’s given the press something to batter us with and make headlines of rather than the win.
And f*ck then even more if they do sack him. I’d have said this before the game too. It’ll be the dreaded “Al squad players get another chance” scenario again and with sabotage a rebuild that isn’t done yet.
If he does go, see you back here in 12-18 months for exactly the same discussion.
And f*ck then even more if they do sack him. I’d have said this before the game too. It’ll be the dreaded “Al squad players get another chance” scenario again and with sabotage a rebuild that isn’t done yet.
If he does go, see you back here in 12-18 months for exactly the same discussion.
Guys keep all ETH talk in that ETH thread. You’re literally having the same conversations in 2 different threads
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