Summer Transfers

Been reading the tweets of @Malachians (Co-Host of Beyond the Pitch. )

If it's true then it's very very worrying.



Can Fergie honestly believe that midfield is fine?!

No midfielder and Owen staying? Jesus Christ, I hope that is a load of rubbish.
 
Been reading the tweets of @Malachians (Co-Host of Beyond the Pitch. )

If it's true then it's very very worrying.



Can Fergie honestly believe that midfield is fine?!

To a certain extent Fergie's right, Carrick & Scholes are irreplaceable, there's very few players out there that use the ball as well as either of them, even last night I thought they were both very good and it was when they got the ball to Park, Giggs, Rooney & Nani things went to shit. That said even if Carrick & Scholes are good enough we still need strengthening by the fact that there's no guarantee this current form of Scholes will continue and there's no guarantee Carrick wont suffer a huge injury.

Of course would Fergie openly tell the world he's looking for central midfielder's next season? Probably not.
 
Philip Brown ‏ @Malachians

Spoke to a brilliant source that said Utd agreed a deal 4 Varane 2 months before he went to Real however Utd cudnt write a 20% deposit check
 
Been reading the tweets of @Malachians (Co-Host of Beyond the Pitch. )

If it's true then it's very very worrying.



Can Fergie honestly believe that midfield is fine?!

Please no, would be horrendous if we don't sign a CM this summer. Hope this isn't true.. :eek:
 
Philip Brown ‏ @Malachians

Spoke to a brilliant source that said Utd agreed a deal 4 Varane 2 months before he went to Real however Utd cudnt write a 20% deposit check

With the money we spent I find that hard to believe.
 
I hope this guy has no clue what he's talking about but I wouldn't be too surprised. Fletcher returning in the summer and Cleverley being fully fit will be considered as new signings.
 
I hope this guy has no clue what he's talking about but I wouldn't be too surprised. Fletcher returning in the summer and Cleverley being fully fit will be considered as new signings.

Far from, both a question mark for me. Theres no gurantee Fletcher returns as the same player, Cleverely (and Anderson) are injury-prone. Scholes and Giggs are also not getting younger, we need a new CM, desperately.
 
Cleverley needs one great pre season and he will be good for us next season in midfield and not on the wings!!
 
Far from, both a question mark for me. Theres no gurantee Fletcher returns as the same player, Cleverely (and Anderson) are injury-prone. Scholes and Giggs are also not getting younger, we need a new CM, desperately.

Another new signing. :lol:

I think we'll spend money but just not in CM.
 
I like this series of tweets from malachians

have to be honest, i have complete confidence in United at City. I just don't see United losing

Two tweets later

If City can't beat that Utd team they don't deserve to win the league

Fickle enough to join the CAF that lad.
 
I like this series of tweets from malachians

have to be honest, i have complete confidence in United at City. I just don't see United losing

Two tweets later

If City can't beat that Utd team they don't deserve to win the league

Fickle enough to join the CAF that lad.

I think the second tweet was after he saw the lineup though.
 
Is Malachians the new Yonkie?

Edit: :lol: This was my 9000th post. I'm glad it was something profound.
 
If we don't spend money in CM(attacking, deep lying or a general b2b) this summer....then well yeah, theres generally no point in spending money.

Kinda need a full back too....but yeah, playmaker first.

Also, discussing goal/metro/mail rumours is bad....but random United bloggers who really have no clue....and attractive more followers to their tweeters? Yeah big fail.
 
Replacing Berbatov with Michael Owen? I guess it is the same as saying how do you replace the invisible man? In that case Owen will be pretty good at it.
 
taking into account 'value' i'd like the summer signings to be:-

RB: Clyne
AM: Sessegnon
DM: Martinez

Cant see how Martinez would be in a "value" post. He's proven himself in 2 positions and Barcelona are known admirers. Plus Bilbao are likely to let go only 1 of their talents with Llorente likely to be that man given he's in his prime and has been linked with top clubs the longest. So its going to take a better offer than they'll get for him.

I wouldn't be surprised if it cost £30 million to release him from Bilbao and if Barcelona would pay that, 9/10 chance he'll pick them.
 
I still think our midfield needs an injection of steel to take the pressure off of Carrick.
Young and hungry lads that run wild through midfield.
 
If Fergie starts out next season with just the current crop of midfielders, I will genuinely start to wonder about his judgement.

We'll be fine if Fletcher is just as good as he was in 09/10, Anderson gets consistent and doesn't get an injury and if Cleverely fulfills his potential and manages an injury-free year.

But don't worry, the odds of those 3 things happening are lower than me winning the lottery, so I'll do that and buy us some actual, young, dependable midfielders myself.
 
taking into account 'value' i'd like the summer signings to be:-

RB: Clyne
AML: Holiett
Mid: Montolivo
 
1. Fletcher
2. Not happening

Fletcher is unlikely to have a big impact next season but I know what you mean. Also I think fletcher is a bit overrated here. We need to add some class rather than a harrier.
 
Yeah pretty much this. I said a while ago that one really good midfielder like Martinez would be enough but given this season I think we need 2, hopefully Kagawa too, and an established full back.

The key is having players capable of playing 4-3-3 effectively again, we don't have that anymore, haven't had it for nearly 2 seasons.

I know I've gone on about how we employed the wrong tactics the other day but it stands out every time we play a top top side, that they're all technically more gifted than us. Even against City, we just never looked as comfortable and composed on the ball as them. Same with Bilbao. I think that should be a priority in the players we choose. It's why ibwasnt too excited about us signing young. I felt we needed more players who can manipulate the ball better under pressure.
 
Cant see how Martinez would be in a "value" post. He's proven himself in 2 positions and Barcelona are known admirers. Plus Bilbao are likely to let go only 1 of their talents with Llorente likely to be that man given he's in his prime and has been linked with top clubs the longest. So its going to take a better offer than they'll get for him.

I wouldn't be surprised if it cost £30 million to release him from Bilbao and if Barcelona would pay that, 9/10 chance he'll pick them.

Know what you mean and Martinez is unlikely to be 'value' but I was saying I'm not gonna pick 3 players for £100m as it's unrealistic but feel we could sign the 3 players I picked for around £50m which I think is a realistic summer spend.
 
I know I've gone on about how we employed the wrong tactics the other day but it stands out every time we play a top top side, that they're all technically more gifted than us. Even against City, we just never looked as comfortable and composed on the ball as them. Same with Bilbao. I think that should be a priority in the players we choose. It's why ibwasnt too excited about us signing young. I felt we needed more players who can manipulate the ball better under pressure.

I am dubious about this increased technicality and composure. Are we seriously expected to look for a player more composed and technically capable than Scholes?

In my view City had more time on the ball because we do not have enough pace and defensive nous in the middle to press them early enough. We had 3 attacking players playing defensive roles, alongside Carrick. One hasn't played for 8 games, the other 2 are nearly 40!

Surely we cannot expect much else when we play good teams who rarely give the ball away. We cannot press them, and we are not organised or aware enough defensively in midfield to close down options and track runners.

I have said all along we need a better defensive option than Fletcher, even when he was fit. That is where we have stuggled in Europe and in some PL games. We have been unable to get the ball back quick enough to prevent teams from creating regular chances against us.

We are creative enough and have enough goal threat. I cried out for this type of player last summer, and we have been lucky really that Carrick has stayed fit for so long. God knows what we would have done without him for any length of time.

Just one more Carrick type, will aenable us to play 4-3-3, 4-2-3-1, or a more effective 4-5-1. We are stuck in a 4-4-2 because we simply don't have the midfielders for any other formation to be effective.
 
I worry that Fletcher will be our new Hargreaves. Surely Fergie has learnt from that mistake?

We need to consider Fletcher's return a bonus rather than something we can rely on. If he is back and fit it would surely be best to use him sparingly anyway and allow him to manage his illness and see what he is capable of. If we chose to rely on him again and he relapsed when the window has closed we're in for more fun and games.
 
I worry that Fletcher will be our new Hargreaves. Surely Fergie has learnt from that mistake?

We need to consider Fletcher's return a bonus rather than something we can rely on. If he is back and fit it would surely be best to use him sparingly anyway and allow him to manage his illness and see what he is capable of. If we chose to rely on him again and he relapsed when the window has closed we're in for more fun and games.

Exactly. I expect Cleverley, Fletcher, Scholes and Anderson to be bench options. Carrick + 1 new signing as main central pairing.

People seem to have already assumed that we've signed Clyne, but a full back isn't a bad idea. I still think we need to add another attacking option. Either as an attacking midfielder who can play on the wings or behind the striker.

So I'm guessing 3 signings.
1. Clyne
2. Some attacking player.
3. Proper central midfield player. Ilk of Carrick or Hargreaves.
 
I worry that Fletcher will be our new Hargreaves. Surely Fergie has learnt from that mistake?

We need to consider Fletcher's return a bonus rather than something we can rely on. If he is back and fit it would surely be best to use him sparingly anyway and allow him to manage his illness and see what he is capable of. If we chose to rely on him again and he relapsed when the window has closed we're in for more fun and games.

Must be honest that concerns me as well. SAF's seems to be getting into a habit of 'making do' at the moment. He gambled a hell of a lot on Fletch being fit for this season, and we have suffered throughout the season from only having one defensive minded midfielder imo. Surely he cannot make such an glaring error again next season?
 
According to the Guardians Rumour Mill here is the latest on 3 players heading out this summer.


To balance the books, the Scot will drive former goal grabbers Federico Macheda, Dimitar Berbatov and Michael Owen to somewhere deep into the countryside, tell them to get out of the car and drive off lickety-split without an ounce of guilt.


Perhaps another striker will be bought this summer then.
 
I worry that Fletcher will be our new Hargreaves. Surely Fergie has learnt from that mistake?

We need to consider Fletcher's return a bonus rather than something we can rely on. If he is back and fit it would surely be best to use him sparingly anyway and allow him to manage his illness and see what he is capable of. If we chose to rely on him again and he relapsed when the window has closed we're in for more fun and games.

The problem with Fletcher's illness is that it can become debilitating quite quickly, having been managed for a long period. So, like you said, we could quite easily have him flying in pre-season and as soon as September comes he'll be struck down again, which would stop us from replacing him. I think we have to buy someone to 'replace' him and hope that we don't end up needing them.
 
If all 3 go, we'l buy a striker for sure i believe unless we get a quality No 10 of the ilk of Kagawa. need cover for rooney.
 
To balance the books, the Scot will drive former goal grabbers Federico Macheda, Dimitar Berbatov and Michael Owen to somewhere deep into the countryside, tell them to get out of the car and drive off lickety-split without an ounce of guilt.

In terms of the books then that'll be really down to wages, as we won't get a lot of money in terms of transfer fees - Owen at least would go on a free.
 
Out- berbatov, Anderson,fabio(loan), fryers(way overrated)

In: Clyne, modric (our major signing) and van wolfswinkel.

Would love Martinez and Hazard but they are barca and shitty bound respectively.
Really hope Pogba stays. Would love replacement for Evra as he has been v poor defensively this season.aly Cisokkho from Lyon would be a good signing.
 
Philip Brown ‏ @Malachians

Spoke to a brilliant source that said Utd agreed a deal 4 Varane 2 months before he went to Real however Utd cudnt write a 20% deposit check

We need to replace Gill immediately, he can't even write his own name anymore.
 
Out- berbatov, Anderson,fabio(loan), fryers(way overrated)

In: Clyne, modric (our major signing) and van wolfswinkel.

Would love Martinez and Hazard but they are barca and shitty bound respectively.
Really hope Pogba stays. Would love replacement for Evra as he has been v poor defensively this season.aly Cisokkho from Lyon would be a good signing.

Is this what you think or want?