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I could have swore La Liga games and highlights are available on UK television. Must be my mistake.

I'm done with this for the time being anyway. My team are playing at Wembley, I don't need to be arguing semantics about mid-table players and clubs.
 
nahealai said:
I could have swore La Liga games and highlights are available on UK television. Must be my mistake.

I'm done with this for the time being anyway. My team are playing at Wembley, I don't need to be arguing semantics about mid-table players and clubs.
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Don't pretend you actively watched La Liga to see the progress of these players :lol:

I don't know whether these players will go on to be good Premier League players as I don't have the benefit of foresight that you seem to have however, Aspas has looked good so far 4 goals in pre-season suggests he could do well. Coutinho and Sterling with three each also shows promising signs.
 
johnny boy said:
They are not far superior, yes they are better but we have to look to challenge them. That's all we are saying.

You don't half talk some crap, you know Aspas and Alberto will flop at this stage, blimey you are clever.
What about Coutinho then, signed for around £8 million also.
Borini needs to prove himself, but has been injured a lot of time he has been at the club.



It's not a question of them being rivals, to get close to the top 4 we need to catch up to Arsenal and Tottenham.
Selling Suarez to one of them is hardly the sensible thing to do.
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Anyone who had seen Coutinho a couple of times knew he was class before he signed for Liverpool. Aspas and Alberto have never shown anything in the games I've seen them that make me think they will help Liverpool reach the next level, not saying they won't but in my opinion they aren't good enough.
Liverpool should get shot of Borini. Never thought he looked good when he was with us and since then has only really been average.
 
Spiersey said:
Anyone who had seen Coutinho a couple of times knew he was class before he signed for Liverpool. Aspas and Alberto have never shown anything in the games I've seen them that make me think they will help Liverpool reach the next level, not saying they won't but in my opinion they aren't good enough.
Liverpool should get shot of Borini. Never thought he looked good when he was with us and since then has only really been average.
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I'd give Borini another year he was very unfortunate with injury last season suffering two fairly hefty injuries last year and never really got a proper run of games
 
Saoirse. said:
I'd give Borini another year he was very unfortunate with injury last season suffering two fairly hefty injuries last year and never really got a proper run of games
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Although he has been unfortunate, I don't think he has shown enough for Liverpool to hope he does well. They'd be better off trying to get rid and get in another winger/ wide forward instead. Someone like Miralles would be perfect if he wasn't at Everton.
 
Spiersey said:
Anyone who had seen Coutinho a couple of times knew he was class before he signed for Liverpool. Aspas and Alberto have never shown anything in the games I've seen them that make me think they will help Liverpool reach the next level, not saying they won't but in my opinion they aren't good enough.
Liverpool should get shot of Borini. Never thought he looked good when he was with us and since then has only really been average.
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Coutinho is class, it's far too early to judge on Aspas and Alberto, but at least you come up with some sensible reasons on them (unlike others).
The jury is out on Borini, however he hasn't had a decent run in the side but has had some terrible injuries to contend with, time will tell assuming he stays but yes he has a lot to prove as it stands.

akash02 said:
I've heard good things about Aspas and Alberto tbh and while Countinho is overrated by Liverpool fans he's a fecking brilliant player.

Liverpool are not that far away from Arsenal and Spurs.
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We are behind them but as Saoirse says - it's hardly an issue to have an aim to catch them up
and it's a realistic aim. That said, we badly need a couple of quality signings.

Earthquake said:
Fair fecks to Liverpool, Coutinho was a stellar piece of business.
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It was, the kind of signing we need, and need a few more of!
 
The problem with Borini might be that he's not a wide player, not even an inside forward. His best position is right up top and Suarez and Sturridge are both better there, much better.
 
akash02 said:
The problem with Borini might be that he's not a wide player, not even an inside forward. His best position is right up top and Suarez and Sturridge are both better there, much better.
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True, and as we have been linked with a possible move for another striker it could be he is surplus to requirements.
It's hard to say as he has been injured for a lot of his time at the club.
 
paulthesinger said:
retardman I don't agree with your logic about Cantona. I'm with Eric when he was asked if he had any regrets and he said not kicking Matthew Simmons harder. The only people who perceive it as being worse than Suarez's petulant, racist and vicious 'professional' behaviour behaviour are frustrated people who need a cheap shot at a more successful club.
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That'll be the FA then. Not to mention the British justice system.
 
in a day and age where someone like Tevez can just piss off for half a season with no regard to the club and fans that pay his wages, and come back, score a few goals and be loved again, there's every chance Suarez can come back into favour down the line.
 
What a great scoop, Sky Sources working their magic again :lol:

Question for Arsenal fans; do you guys actually want him at your club seeing how he's willing to treat a club this way, a club who have gone above and beyond reasonable or sensible support for him?
 
Sky sources = Shit, Jim Whites on at 7pm and we've got sod all transfer news.
 
I have no idea how this is possible, but I'm really starting to like Luiz Suarez. I mean, he's a top clas WUM, absolutely at the top of the game.

And he's driving Liverpool insane! What's not to love...
 
Sandikan said:
in a day and age where someone like Tevez can just piss off for half a season with no regard to the club and fans that pay his wages, and come back, score a few goals and be loved again, there's every chance Suarez can come back into favour down the line.
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I suppose the big difference is that Tevez came back into a team capable of challenging for top honours. The reason Suarez wants out is that he doesn't believe we're anywhere near challenging for even 4th place.

I think we've seen the last of him in a Liverpool shirt. Bridges have not just been burnt, they've been blown to smithereens.
 
walsh said:
What a great scoop, Sky Sources working their magic again :lol:

Question for Arsenal fans; do you guys actually want him at your club seeing how he's willing to treat a club this way, a club who have gone above and beyond reasonable or sensible support for him?
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It's the fact that they went over reasonable and sensible support for him that he's become so bad. It's like not laying down the ground rules for a child.
 
akash02 said:
I've heard good things about Aspas and Alberto tbh and while Countinho is overrated by Liverpool fans he's a fecking brilliant player.

Liverpool are not that far away from Arsenal and Spurs.
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If Arsenal don't sign anyone and Spurs lose Bale, with Liverpool not having distractions in Europe, there is a chance they could get 4th. They should at least close the gap.
 
Thisistchancee said:
If Arsenal don't sign anyone and Spurs lose Bale, with Liverpool not having distractions in Europe, there is a ccould get 4th. They should at least close the gap.
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No Suarez, no chance

Sturridge isn't consistent enough to get the goals they need and they are weak in several areas

They really need their summer signings to have a huge impact if they are to challenge Arsenal or Spurs
 
Of course it's a long shot but they improved a bit towards to end of last season and have added players this summer. Perhaps I'm placing to much emphasis on European distractions for the London sides.
 
Thisistheone said:
Of course it's a long shot but they improved a bit towards to end of last season and have added players this summer. Perhaps I'm placing to much emphasis on European distractions for the London sides.
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If we can sign a really good striker before the end of the transfer window, then I think we'll give 4th place a good go. Taking Suarez out of the equation, it only leaves us with Sturridge as our only quality striker. Any loss of form, or injury to him, would really feck us up. Under Rodgers, we created more chances than any other Premiership side last season. & Suarez, for all his goals, was guilty of missing a lot of those chances. The fact that Sturridge scored 10 goals in 14 games is a good indicator of our manager's ability to get his side to play good, attacking football. However, Daniel Sturridge alone, isn't going to be enough for us to have even a sniff of a chance at breaking back into the top 4.
 
retardman5 said:
That'll be the FA then. Not to mention the British justice system.
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Racially aggravated public order offences can result in serious prison sentences. And it's generally accepted that the FA and football in general are far too lenient on racism. Paltry fines and slaps on wrists. If they really wanted to stamp out racism, like they say they do, Suarez should've been banned for at least a season.

And let's be honest, if Suarez hadn't been a racist but had in fact stood up to a racist by kicking him in the face, you'd probably write poems about it, make banners, and tell anyone who'd listen about him upholding the Liverpool Way and standing up for what is right.

You'd worship him if he did what Cantona did. You worship him despite him being a racist toad. Take that out of the equation and flip it around to him actually kicking racists and it's difficult to imagine just how revered he'd be.
 
Kraftwerker said:
Racially aggravated public order offences can result in serious prison sentences. And it's generally accepted that the FA and football in general are far too lenient on racism. Paltry fines and slaps on wrists. If they really wanted to stamp out racism, like they say they do, Suarez should've been banned for at least a season.

And let's be honest, if Suarez hadn't been a racist but had in fact stood up to a racist by kicking him in the face, you'd probably write poems about it, make banners, and tell anyone who'd listen about him upholding the Liverpool Way and standing up for what is right.

You'd worship him if he did what Cantona did. You worship him despite him being a racist toad. Take that out of the equation and flip it around to him actually kicking racists and it's difficult to imagine just how revered he'd be.
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A bit like your club banned Cantona for virtually half a season you mean. Funny really, because I don't recall too many on here saying he should have banned for that amount of time when he was initially sentenced to an 8 game ban. Most people in general were satisfied that the FA had done a good job. But that's neither here nor there, because half a season is just your opinion, which actually means jack shit in the grand scheme of things. Because amongst all this ranting & vitriol from certain people who feel that Suarez is the devil incarnate, & King Eric did us all a favour by twatting that nasty Matthew Simmons. I've actually pointed out 2 proven examples of why this isn't case. & you have nothing to offer but a long-winded rant in which you feel that by constantly using the word 'racist', this might serve as some sort of subliminal winner in this debate.

One other thing. Luis Suarez was charged, & found guilty, of using insulting words with reference to Patrice Evra's colour. The FA, & more importantly, Patrice Evra himself, both claimed that neither of them felt that Luis Suarez is racist.

So there you have it sunshine. All solid facts. So if you want to continue this debate, don't come back with your usual opinionated shite, which goes off on some irrelevant tangent so the whole point gets lost. Come back with a counter to what I've just written. But back it up with some truthful facts.

I'll be waiting.
 
alastair said:
To get back on subject, The Telegraph's Jeremy Wilson believes we're going to make a final bid of close to £50m this week.
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According to John Henry:

"I'm unequivocal that we won't sell to Arsenal, whatever the bid is"

Arsenal should have just paid the asking price for Higuain instead of being so stokey and they would have a striker at this stage.
 
Saoirse. said:
According to John Henry:

"I'm unequivocal that we won't sell to Arsenal, whatever the bid is"

Arsenal should have just paid the asking price for Higuain instead of being so stokey and they would have a striker at this stage.
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This. But I am glad they were "stokey"...whatever that means. ;)
 
gooDevil said:
I really hope not. If Liverpool are smart they will take it.
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There is no good thing that can come for Liverpool by selling Suarez to Arsenal,

1. Strengthen the weakest team in the top 4
2. Weaken ourselves
3. Sell probably the only world class player in our squad
4. Be left with three weeks of the transfer window and £50million to spend on substandard players because any players that are capable of replacing what Suarez brings to the table will have no interest in coming to Liverpool

Some people really do not look at the bigger picture when looking at this situation.
 
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