Lance has been around for a while...
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Lance has been around for a while...
No shit
Got to say, Rodgers is a class A bullshitter but I was impressed the past few days.
He wants to play for Arsenal Brendan.
They should just let him leave for Arsenal and get it over with. I can't see Suarez giving 100% to Liverpool from here on. And given the fact that he's a crazy dude, you can't count him out doing something else stupid for the sake of it.
Same applies to Rooney and Chelsea in that case.
Utd has RVP so they can negate the loss of Rooney. Liverpool aren't really in a position to play hardball with Suarez cause he's obviously critical to their plans this season. Let him leave and buy a striker who wants to be there for the team. From here on Suarez is nothing but a sore and distraction for Liverpool.
Just to make it clearer, Liverpool didn't just suggest he misinterpreted him. They called for him to be banned and further peddled the myth he had previous for making accusations of racist abuse.
Liverpool fans never stop giving to us.
This takes me back to my earlier point. When you try too hard to be funny or condescending, it comes all wrong. No matter how hard you try, you will never be Storey.
I am sure he is flattered by the effort though.
Press picking up on Rodger's tosh.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...orse-Luis-Suarez-summer--Patrick-Collins.html
In the course of the next nine months, the football managers of England will prattle a stream of pretentious platitudes. But as they clear their throats and prepare to break their summer silences, they know Brendan Rodgers has delivered a pre-emptive strike.
Rummaging through his ragbag of all-purpose cliches, the Liverpool manager produced this selection: ‘There has been total disrespect of a club that has given him everything… We have a standard at Liverpool and I will fight for my life to retain it. The Liverpool Way is all about being committed to the cause and fighting for the shirt. It’s also about dignity and being dignified in how you speak about the club. And it’s about unity.’
One by one, the boxes were ticked: respect, dignity, unity and our old friend, The Liverpool Way. The person who provoked the outburst was, of course, Luis Suarez. There is something about the little chap that pushes even the sanest of managers to the brink of self-parody. And as Rodgers launched his rant, you could imagine an unrepentant smile spreading across the player’s features as he trotted off to train in solitary confinement.
The manager’s criticisms were clearly justified, since Suarez is a manipulative chancer whose antics over the past couple of years have brought both his club and his sport into deep disrepute. If he were an ordinary footballer, then Liverpool would have marched him off the premises many months ago. But he is not ordinary. He is an original talent; brave, audacious and gloriously inventive. He is capable of transforming a club and shaping a season. Such people are consistently accommodated; their failings dismissed as foibles, their excesses reduced to eccentricities. Which brings us back to Brendan Rodgers.
When Kenny Dalglish was dismissed as Liverpool manager in May 2012, his treatment of Suarez was widely regarded as a contributory factor. The picture of Dalglish and his squad wearing Suarez T-shirts after the player had been found guilty of racially abusing Manchester United’s Patrice Evra became the defining image of his brief and unimpressive tenure. When Rodgers succeeded, two weeks later, it seemed inconceivable that he would be guilty of similarly misplaced tolerance.
So let us consider the evidence: In late September 2012, he complained that Suarez was being denied valid penalty appeals. ‘He hasn’t dived, they’ve been legitimate, and he’s actually got booked,’ said Rodgers. ‘It would be a shame if players who respect the rules, and managers who are asking players to stay on their feet and not dive, are not getting the decisions because of it.’
A week on, after winning at Norwich, the theme was the same: ‘He now has a reputation for going down easily… He doesn’t get the rub of the green from officials, there’s absolutely no question.’
A further week, after a match against Stoke, his conviction had hardened: ‘There seems to be one set of rules for Luis and another set for everyone else… the vilification of Luis is both wrong and unfair.’
Three months later, the ‘vilified’ Suarez helpfully admitted he had in fact dived ‘because we were drawing at home and we needed anything to win it’.
It was around this time that Suarez scored against Everton and flung himself into a coy, celebratory dive. His manager beamed at the witless prank. In January this year, Suarez clearly handled before scoring in an FA Cup tie at Mansfield. Rodgers watched the damning replay, declined to criticise the cheating and concluded: ‘It’s not deliberate, as it’s pushed up and hit his hand. It’s up to the officials to decide. That’s why they get paid as officials.’
Then in March, Rodgers announced that Suarez had changed for the better as a player and a person. ‘This is a guy who is trying to turn around his life and adapt to the culture,’ he said.
A month later, the reformed character sunk his teeth into the Chelsea defender Branislav Ivanovic. Rodgers was ‘bitterly disappointed’, but not by the offence. ‘It’s the severity of the ban that has hurt most,’ he said. And he added: ‘If you look at South American players, they do whatever it takes to win. This is the way they have been brought up. To fight for their lives.’ It was a pathetic performance; a series of managerial humiliations, willingly borne because the player was just too valuable to lose.
And Rodgers knew he had the bulk of the Liverpool following firmly alongside him, because they, too, recognised the striker’s worth.
But then Suarez went a step too far. Diving, cheating, abusing referees, racial insults, biting opponents: the fans could swallow hard and overlook these trivial character flaws. But demanding to leave Liverpool was something else, something so heinous that forgiveness was rendered impossible.
And so the manager launched that outpouring of transparent tosh about The Liverpool Way and fighting for the shirt, while taking care not to cut the ties with his most valuable asset.
That Suarez has behaved shabbily will surprise nobody, since that is his nature. But his behaviour has been wilfully abetted by the endless indulgence of his manager. We thought Brendan Rodgers was better than that. It seems we were wrong.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...orse-Luis-Suarez-summer--Patrick-Collins.html
In the course of the next nine months, the football managers of England will prattle a stream of pretentious platitudes. But as they clear their throats and prepare to break their summer silences, they know Brendan Rodgers has delivered a pre-emptive strike.
Rummaging through his ragbag of all-purpose cliches, the Liverpool manager produced this selection: ‘There has been total disrespect of a club that has given him everything… We have a standard at Liverpool and I will fight for my life to retain it. The Liverpool Way is all about being committed to the cause and fighting for the shirt. It’s also about dignity and being dignified in how you speak about the club. And it’s about unity.’
One by one, the boxes were ticked: respect, dignity, unity and our old friend, The Liverpool Way. The person who provoked the outburst was, of course, Luis Suarez. There is something about the little chap that pushes even the sanest of managers to the brink of self-parody. And as Rodgers launched his rant, you could imagine an unrepentant smile spreading across the player’s features as he trotted off to train in solitary confinement.
The manager’s criticisms were clearly justified, since Suarez is a manipulative chancer whose antics over the past couple of years have brought both his club and his sport into deep disrepute. If he were an ordinary footballer, then Liverpool would have marched him off the premises many months ago. But he is not ordinary. He is an original talent; brave, audacious and gloriously inventive. He is capable of transforming a club and shaping a season. Such people are consistently accommodated; their failings dismissed as foibles, their excesses reduced to eccentricities. Which brings us back to Brendan Rodgers.
When Kenny Dalglish was dismissed as Liverpool manager in May 2012, his treatment of Suarez was widely regarded as a contributory factor. The picture of Dalglish and his squad wearing Suarez T-shirts after the player had been found guilty of racially abusing Manchester United’s Patrice Evra became the defining image of his brief and unimpressive tenure. When Rodgers succeeded, two weeks later, it seemed inconceivable that he would be guilty of similarly misplaced tolerance.
So let us consider the evidence: In late September 2012, he complained that Suarez was being denied valid penalty appeals. ‘He hasn’t dived, they’ve been legitimate, and he’s actually got booked,’ said Rodgers. ‘It would be a shame if players who respect the rules, and managers who are asking players to stay on their feet and not dive, are not getting the decisions because of it.’
A week on, after winning at Norwich, the theme was the same: ‘He now has a reputation for going down easily… He doesn’t get the rub of the green from officials, there’s absolutely no question.’
A further week, after a match against Stoke, his conviction had hardened: ‘There seems to be one set of rules for Luis and another set for everyone else… the vilification of Luis is both wrong and unfair.’
Three months later, the ‘vilified’ Suarez helpfully admitted he had in fact dived ‘because we were drawing at home and we needed anything to win it’.
It was around this time that Suarez scored against Everton and flung himself into a coy, celebratory dive. His manager beamed at the witless prank. In January this year, Suarez clearly handled before scoring in an FA Cup tie at Mansfield. Rodgers watched the damning replay, declined to criticise the cheating and concluded: ‘It’s not deliberate, as it’s pushed up and hit his hand. It’s up to the officials to decide. That’s why they get paid as officials.’
Then in March, Rodgers announced that Suarez had changed for the better as a player and a person. ‘This is a guy who is trying to turn around his life and adapt to the culture,’ he said.
A month later, the reformed character sunk his teeth into the Chelsea defender Branislav Ivanovic. Rodgers was ‘bitterly disappointed’, but not by the offence. ‘It’s the severity of the ban that has hurt most,’ he said. And he added: ‘If you look at South American players, they do whatever it takes to win. This is the way they have been brought up. To fight for their lives.’ It was a pathetic performance; a series of managerial humiliations, willingly borne because the player was just too valuable to lose.
And Rodgers knew he had the bulk of the Liverpool following firmly alongside him, because they, too, recognised the striker’s worth.
But then Suarez went a step too far. Diving, cheating, abusing referees, racial insults, biting opponents: the fans could swallow hard and overlook these trivial character flaws. But demanding to leave Liverpool was something else, something so heinous that forgiveness was rendered impossible.
And so the manager launched that outpouring of transparent tosh about The Liverpool Way and fighting for the shirt, while taking care not to cut the ties with his most valuable asset.
That Suarez has behaved shabbily will surprise nobody, since that is his nature. But his behaviour has been wilfully abetted by the endless indulgence of his manager. We thought Brendan Rodgers was better than that. It seems we were wrong.
He's made a mug of Brendan. He likes to portray himself as a shrewd operator but some of that stuff is embarrassing and shows him as anything but.
This is what happens when you've got a top player and defend him at all costs.
This is what happens when you've got a top player and defend him at all costs.
I can imagine Suarez's apology will be as genuine and heartfelt as this...
That article is pretty spot on.
His current contract expires in 2018 and Liverpool hold all the cards in this, as Gordon Taylor has said. Who knows what Suarez will do now, but with it being the World Cup at the end of the season, Suarez would still want to play wherever he is, and play relatively well (though it's not certain if Uruguay will qualify at this stage). He'd still most likely do something stupid as he seemingly can't go a season without, but Liverpool don't have much to lose by keeping him - especially as selling him to Arsenal would be strengthening a rival.
Its like trying to deal with a bold child over there 
"Say sorry if you ever want to play football with us again!!"
"Say sorry if you ever want to play football with us again!!"
You should point out that bold means naughty in Ireland.
Its like trying to deal with a bold child over there
"Say sorry if you ever want to play football with us again!!"
And what's the point in a forced apology?
Suarez even missed Gerrard's testimonial dinner. Ridiculous how these wantaway players try so hard to demonstrate how unhappy they are; we already know that, you bloody idiots.
Especially funny when you realise the whole point is that he doesn't want to play with them....Its like trying to deal with a bold child over there
"Say sorry if you ever want to play football with us again!!"
retardman I don't agree with your logic about Cantona. I'm with Eric when he was asked if he had any regrets and he said not kicking Matthew Simmons harder. The only people who perceive it as being worse than Suarez's petulant, racist and vicious 'professional' behaviour behaviour are frustrated people who need a cheap shot at a more successful club.
I dont understand why they are so hell bent desperate on keeping him.
Not a clue, I'd be done with the cnut quick as a flash. 45m(give or take) is a lot of money to spend on strengthening a squad, over keeping one guy who'll put five past Norwich while Gerrard, Sturridge and Couthinho do the work in the big games.
Betraying your team mates, incurring the wrath of Rawk and subjecting yourself to some of Brenton's pious, inane drivel, is a small price to pay to avoid a night of Phil Collins ballads.
The public assertion that a private apology is needed in front of his team-mates is an awful ploy. I always hated that sort of showboating. Who's that for the benefit of? Humiliating for the offender, gratuitous display of strength by the manager. Of course he should apologise to them but do it behind closed doors. That's in the scenario where the guy actually is sorry, which clearly doesn't apply here. Whole thing is a pantomime. I can't look at Rogers anymore.
They actually believe that Arsenal are their rivals for a top 4 spot.
That's the funniest thing about this whole sorry episode. They are deadly serious when they say they're contenders for 4th spot. Both Spurs and Arsenal are far superior to them already, and Liverpool's customary ~£8 million signings will flatter to deceive, leaving them in mid-table mediocrity once again. Aspas and Alberto will flop, just like Borini has.
They are not far superior, yes they are better but we have to look to challenge them. That's all we are saying.
You don't half talk some crap, you know Aspas and Alberto will flop at this stage, blimey you are clever.
What about Coutinho then, signed for around £8 million also.
Borini needs to prove himself, but has been injured a lot of time he has been at the club.
It's not a question of them being rivals, to get close to the top 4 we need to catch up to Arsenal and Tottenham.
Selling Suarez to one of them is hardly the sensible thing to do.
Now he's a player.
Dalglish and Rogers soiled themselves and their beloved club by allowing a player to be greater than the collective. They can bleat on all they like about 'The Liverpool Way', but its actions and not words that embed a doctrine.
This past 24 months, Louis Suarez has been allowed to become greater than Liverpool Football Club; what we see happening now is the knock on effect of such a policy.
Coutinho is a good player, yes. However, he's another Liverpool player who is overrated. From Suarez to being the third-best player in the world (despite only one club being interested in signing him. Go figure) and now Coutinho being labelled the best youngster in the league. Pure hysteria never does your lot any favours yet you never learn.
Coutinho started brightly at Inter lest we forget (He was terrific in that Inter 4-3 Gareth Bale game), yet he was bombed out soon after. It remains to be seen how motivated he'll be in the next season or two.
Overrated? Hardly he adapted to the challenges of a new league and performed consistently well. For the price he was a bargain.
Looks a very very good player and no reason why he cannot continue next season.
You say Aspas and Alberto will be poor - how do you know?
They signed for Liverpool.
Ha Ha , better leave it at that then, no sense in debate with an obvious WUM - you get off and finish your school homework.
Don't talk such crap, 4th spot is our aim, you have to start the season with some sort of ambition or else why even bother? We know that Arsenal are not technically our rivals however that are the team that has the most chance of falling out of the top 4 thus why strengthening them would set us further back than we already are.
Fair fecks to Liverpool, Coutinho was a stellar piece of business.
Read through this forum about Coutinho and you'll see that there are a large percentage of United fans saying Couthino is a brilliant player.
Just because you hate Liverpool doesn't make you have to act with such superiority all the time, we get slagged for over spending on players, and get slagged for spending 8m on players- you have no idea if Aspas or Alberto are any good or not, you are basing everything on a pricetag and the fact they were previously unheard of. Do yourself a favour and wait until you have seen them playing before casting judgement on how good they are.
I've heard good things about Aspas and Alberto tbh and while Countinho is overrated by Liverpool fans he's a fecking brilliant player.
Liverpool are not that far away from Arsenal and Spurs.
Liverpool are not that far away from Arsenal and Spurs.
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