They're substantially better than you, you deluded little Scouse goblin.
Suarez
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Ha Ha - wondered how long it would be before "deluded" was trotted out again. Thanks for not letting me down!
If the cap fits....
Come on now, Arsenal are a much better side than Liverpool. That much isn't up for debate.
Better yes they are, but I don't think they are significantly better.
LFC have to look to narrow that gap. Selling Suarez to them would increase that gap.
If the likes of Real Madrid come in for Suarez you couldn't blame him for going.
If they get Suarez then they become significantly better than Liverpool.
12 points better than LFC, in a year where the winners were 11 points clear, and regarded to have "walked it."
Probably true, which is why the club don't want to sell him. Unless the money is invested really well Liverpool are further behind Arsenal
if they get him. However, as it stands unless the player does something to force a move I can't see him going there.
Out of interest, how have these summer shenanigans changed your stance on him? Would you like to see him leave, or do you take a pragmatic view to all of this? And are you surprised he's now also acted the cnut towards Liverpool, or did you see it coming?
I would have been quite happy for him to have been sold after the biting incident as I don't want to see that on a football field or any walk of life. However, I am (in a way contradicting myself talking about him on here), quite relaxed about it all, if we can get a good price I wouldn't be that bothered if he were sold.
But I would really rather that be abroad, he is good enough to play for the likes of Real Madrid.
You don't sell your best players to a rival.
I am surprised, my feeling was he would give us another season and then if we didn't make the Champions League he would be off, given the
loyalty (maybe too loyal) backing he has had from the fans it feels like a slap in the face.
I can totally see where you're coming from with the abroad thing.
Excluding the biting and racism issues, it's basically how I feel about Rooney. If he wants away by all means sell him as long as it is abroad.
Excluding the biting and racism issues, it's basically how I feel about Rooney. If he wants away by all means sell him as long as it is abroad.
Lets see how you do with a new manager, new backroom staff, and no new players wanting to join. That's what Brendan had to face in his first season. Now you will experience it first hand and maybe we can have this discussion next summer.
As for what's been posted so far:
1. Commolli - we're a top 8 club thanks to you, four-eyed stupid twat. Its like Hitler saying, hmm, yeah the Nazis were kinda f*cked for taking on Britain, Russia and America.
2. Reina - Suarez will leave. No sh*t sherlock.
3. Arsenal are a far superior side to Liverpool. Yes they are, but how far superior will be decided this make or break season for Brendan.
Yes, and in no way am I making an absolute comparison as obviously Liverpool have no chance of winning the league, but if Arsenal hadn't sold Van Persie to United it would clearly have made the title race closer (would United still have won it?), so selling Suarez to Arsenal makes no sense at all.
I actually think for the record selling Rooney to Chelsea would be a big mistake also.
I am baffled by the blind support Suarez still gets from Liverpool fans.
Best player in a pool of mediocrity.
Although I think if they play Sturridge up front on his own, they won't miss Suarez as much. The problem is if he is sold to Arsenal, they will improve immensely to the point where Liverpool won't catch them.
As soon as Gervinho and maybe Chamakh are sold, Wenger may use the money to up the bid for Suarez. I can't see Liverpool holding out for much longer if Arsenal table a 50 million bid.
Arsenal is in a far better position off the pitch and on the pitch compared to Liverpool, you don't like being called deluded but it doesn't take a genius to figure that out.
To be fair all teams have their stand out players. It would stupid to call United's squad weak in any sense, far from it, but the reliance on Van Persie last season must have surprised many.
Take him out of the side and it's nothing like as strong.
Same with Suarez and yes, we can't afford to sell to Arsenal.
That should add about £7.50 to his transfer kitty then.
Meh, I don't ever think we were over reliant on him, we had other options, hence why we still won pretty much every game we played during his two month barren spell. Liverpool were far more reliant on Suarez.
We actually didn't do that bad when he was out towards the end of the season, but yes we are reliant on him or more importantly the difference he would make to Arsenal.
The last laugh may be Wenger's. He' knows the ball is still in his court and Liverpool aren't exactly holding all the cards here.
I am not sure I agree, I think we are holding the cards. Unless Arsenal up the bid by a significant amount they won't get him.
The thing that could come into play is if Suarez kicks up more of a fuss or puts in a transfer request or anything which makes it impossible for him to stay. If things are going on behind the scenes we don't know about then that's fair enough I guess.
From what Brendan and Ian Ayre have said we aren't at that point yet.
If Real don't get Bale and come for Suarez then I can see that being more likely for him to go there. I can't see Arsenal bidding £10m more.
If Al's right and the contract release hinges on champions league he's got 4 aces.
That's what I meant by Liverpool not holding all the cards. A 50 million bid and a transfer request and it's now a case of looking at a huge sum of money AND a transfer request on your desk.
ok. In that case yes, it's a game of poker , whether it ends up as a game of Happy families who knows!
I just can't see Arsenal bidding another £10m.
Nobody saw RVP in a Utd shirt either but such is football(ers) these days.
As asked earlier, when are these fixtures?
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/luis-suarez-transfer-liverpool-striker-2122119
Excellent piece by Andy Dunn in today's Sunday Mirror.
Sums it up perfectly.
Excellent piece by Andy Dunn in today's Sunday Mirror.
Sums it up perfectly.
Largely agree but the Fabregas and Suarez situations are clearly different. Barcelona repeatedly and publicly unsettled Fabregas and we have seen nothing of the sort from Arsenal.
Spoken like a true Liverpool fan
I wouldn't be surprised if Andy Dunn is a regular on RAWKSpoken like a true Liverpool fan
So what points from the article do you not agree with ?
Fan Fiction ala Rawk style, except it's against them :
Suarez signs for Arse for a record fee of £45m. Arse visits Liverpool some months later with both teams desperately needing the 3 pts. The score is 0-0 in the 95th min. Suarez collects a cross from Walcott with heavy suspicion of handball, charges into the penalty box and dives theatrically under a fair challenge from Agger. Ref points to the spot. Mayhem ensues and Gerrard is given a 2nd yellow for his protestations. Suarez places the ball on the penalty spot as Arteta has already been subbed. Loud boos ring from the Kop End where Suarez was once their god. He ignores them, makes a short run up, pauses, accelerates again and calmly dinks the ball over a diving Mignolet....
Damn I better stop before I get sucked into Rawk's world of fan fiction delusion. At least I didn't mention his arm kissing after scoring!
Suarez signs for Arse for a record fee of £45m. Arse visits Liverpool some months later with both teams desperately needing the 3 pts. The score is 0-0 in the 95th min. Suarez collects a cross from Walcott with heavy suspicion of handball, charges into the penalty box and dives theatrically under a fair challenge from Agger. Ref points to the spot. Mayhem ensues and Gerrard is given a 2nd yellow for his protestations. Suarez places the ball on the penalty spot as Arteta has already been subbed. Loud boos ring from the Kop End where Suarez was once their god. He ignores them, makes a short run up, pauses, accelerates again and calmly dinks the ball over a diving Mignolet....
Damn I better stop before I get sucked into Rawk's world of fan fiction delusion. At least I didn't mention his arm kissing after scoring!
Fan Fiction ala Rawk style, except it's against them :
Suarez signs for Arse for a record fee of £45m. Arse visits Liverpool some months later with both teams desperately needing the 3 pts. The score is 0-0 in the 95th min. Suarez collects a cross from Walcott with heavy suspicion of handball, charges into the penalty box and dives theatrically under a fair challenge from Agger. Ref points to the spot. Mayhem ensues and Gerrard is given a 2nd yellow for his protestations. Suarez places the ball on the penalty spot as Arteta has already been subbed. Loud boos ring from the Kop End where Suarez was once their god. He ignores them, makes a short run up, pauses, accelerates again and calmly dinks the ball over a diving Mignolet....
Damn I better stop before I get sucked into Rawk's world of fan fiction delusion. At least I didn't mention his arm kissing after scoring!
You'd never make to "scribe" status at RAWK, man: It's far too literal, needs more mawkish-grandiose metaphors, inappropriate references to Greek mythology...and girlfriends: "It's like when yer bird leaves ya for some cockney puff and that, la, and then comes back home, la - and scores a feckin' penalty on ya, and that, only she's transformed into Prometheus, la, and then..."
The whole article is biased towards Liverpool, I'm guessing you don't agree with that.
Tell me what exactly have Arsenal done wrong here? We have put in two large bids for the player and it is your club which has made this a public affair. Most of the press leaks are coming from your lot and nobody from our club even mentioned the bid until this week. Yet we have had your MD and manager talking about it regularly in the press, if you are so adamant to not accept a bid why not do it privately?
...eminently likeable. That's where it all goes a bit overboard.
We've had the Rooney, Thiago and Fabregas tedious sagas, but the Suarez one looks less easy to resolve then those 3.
The trying to hype his fee up due to the Bale one makes it even less likely to resolve doesn't it.
£40m for a player they bought for 20+ would surely be a good deal, especially as he's got a 6 match ban, and will be clattered with a heavy ban if he even breathes out of place next season. He is beyond a liability.
The trying to hype his fee up due to the Bale one makes it even less likely to resolve doesn't it.
£40m for a player they bought for 20+ would surely be a good deal, especially as he's got a 6 match ban, and will be clattered with a heavy ban if he even breathes out of place next season. He is beyond a liability.
I can think of bigger "crimes" that hungry racist has committed, to be honest.
Agreed. I find him a bit of a smug twat but it is all subjective I guess.
Maybe it was the £40 million & a pound that might have gotten up their noses, & they decided to bring it out in the open. The fact is, our manager, MD, & the owners, have all stated that they don't wish to sell Suarez under any circumstances. Rodgers now talking about £100 million pound for the guy isn't exactly a: 'give us a call Arsene & we'll see if we can do business' type of message is it ? So if our club have stated he's not for sale, & they don't want to sell. Why does Wenger keep making bids ? & trying to rub our nose in it at the same time.
So tell me. If the article is biased towards Liverpool, what justification does Suarez have in wanting out a mere 12 months after signing a contract extension, & claiming how much he loved it at Liverpool ? So what exactly have/are Liverpool doing wrong by Luis Suarez ?
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