It's bollocks. Arsenal's "reputation" and "values"... they've had plenty of embarrassing antics from their players over the years Wenger's been there, for a start.
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That's very optimistic Al.
Bollocks. You'd back him to the hilt...I suspect deep down Wenger doesn't care because he'd have looked elsewhere. Shame on your club.
Arsenal have had some nasty characters.
I know people think I'm being a bit naive here, but we have a great record on discrimination. Look at our crowd, for one. Look at how Arsenal were represented at Pride this year.
If Suarez kicks off at Arsenal with some more appalling behaviour, he'll be properly disciplined, which wasn't the case at Liverpool. Whatever nastiness Suarez has in him was basically encouraged up there.
I know people think I'm being a bit naive here, but we have a great record on discrimination. Look at our crowd, for one. Look at how Arsenal were represented at Pride this year.
If Suarez kicks off at Arsenal with some more appalling behaviour, he'll be properly disciplined, which wasn't the case at Liverpool. Whatever nastiness Suarez has in him was basically encouraged up there.
He's already backed him by trying to buy him.
All I'm saying is that when Suarez racially abuses someone, we will publically condemn it, not go to the nearest T-Shirt printing company. Not a controversial view.
It's more like looking the other way. Truth is if he's banging in goals no one will really care how he's conducting himself on the pitch.
I think that's probably true but on the last page you said "[Wenger] will control him fine" and then a few posts later cited Arsenal's representation at Pride.
Al's so desperate for Suarez. Feel sorry for you.
It's not Arsene, is it?
EDIT: I see you're not based in France, so it's unlikely to be Wenger.
Er well we have a tower so that could be france ?
In which case, it wouldn't be long before he's after a move (again). And clubs - as exemplified by Liverpool - have an annoying tendency to be blasé about racism when the offender is one of their star players.
I think you're cutting my posts into pieces unfairly here.
I suspect Wenger will control him a lot better than he was at Liverpool. He must believe he can, as must the board. The Pride reference was down to the fact that it's clear that Arsenal want to appear inclusive. We're not going to sign someone we believe is going to re-offend time and time again. The club must feel as if the situation is recoverable.
EDIT - Nice use of square brackets though. Liked it.
Yeh, and it's incredibly annoying, much like when Wenger pretends he hasn't seen a bad challenge or something.
But I don't think we'd stoop as far as defending racism. Even Liverpool didn't when it was proven beyond doubt.
Isn't this all just a re-hash of the situation from a week or so back ?
Until Suarez actually hands in a transfer request it's a nothing story.
Until Suarez actually hands in a transfer request it's a nothing story.
Total pish.
It makes for difficult reading. The boy is a loon and only maturity and sanction will bring him into line. Sanction tends to mean an unhappy player.
I don't care how happy Suarez is as long as he plays football without feeling the need to impale someone.
If Suarez does go to Arsenal, is there not a big worry that he'll push for a move to Madrid again in a year or two? Or will this actually be the last big move he makes?
The bloke is 26 years old. He's not a young kid starting out in the game. He'll be just as likely to do something as crazy as he was when he was a Liverpool or Ajax player. It's how he plays. Wenger will be just as helpless as his previous managers when it comes to changing him.
If he signs for Arsenal, be prepared to take the shit that comes along with him.
And also lighting them.
Can't deny that.Apparently that's utter bollocks now because he did racially abuse someone and his reward is a big transfer to Arsenal so it's being tolerated just fine.
You may need a bigger fire extinguisher on this one mate. Trust me, I'm living proof.
Wanting to sign a player who once racially abused someone is not the same thing as tolerating racial abuse.
If a corner shop employ an ex-bank robber does that mean they condone theft?
You have lost the plot with all this stuff.
The very public nature Liverpool have acted throughout this affair just leads me to believe they want to sell, by making this a very public affair they are trying to get the best price they can for the player. There is a deal to be done but I don't know if we will be able to come to an agreement. If there are any other clubs interested they are sending them a signal and they are convincing their own fans that they are fighting to keep the player. They also know Arsenal fans are restless for signings so this will only make things worse and that has worked to be fair.
If we come in with a bid around the £50mill mark they will sell but I doubt we will hence why I'm not sure whether we will sign the player. From Arsenal's point of view we need a top quality striker and from Liverpool's point of view they need to reinvest in their squad and if the player isn't happy then need to let him go. Especially as the Bale to R.Madrid transfer is looking more likely nobody else will come in with much higher. Man City have bought their strikers, Chelsea want Rooney and French clubs have spent big money on top strikers. They said Torres wasn't for sale and Reina would stay at the club. Just like how Man Utd are saying Rooney isn't for sale, there is a deal to be done for both players but both clubs are prepared to dig in to get the most they can for their players. Fair enough, is what we have done in the past so can't complain when others do the same to us.
I found it amusing reading an earlier post about how yesterdays stories are from our media mouthpieces, what about all the stuff that has come out in the past week? Mostly Liverpool friendly journalists putting out what Liverpool want in the public domain.
If we come in with a bid around the £50mill mark they will sell but I doubt we will hence why I'm not sure whether we will sign the player. From Arsenal's point of view we need a top quality striker and from Liverpool's point of view they need to reinvest in their squad and if the player isn't happy then need to let him go. Especially as the Bale to R.Madrid transfer is looking more likely nobody else will come in with much higher. Man City have bought their strikers, Chelsea want Rooney and French clubs have spent big money on top strikers. They said Torres wasn't for sale and Reina would stay at the club. Just like how Man Utd are saying Rooney isn't for sale, there is a deal to be done for both players but both clubs are prepared to dig in to get the most they can for their players. Fair enough, is what we have done in the past so can't complain when others do the same to us.
I found it amusing reading an earlier post about how yesterdays stories are from our media mouthpieces, what about all the stuff that has come out in the past week? Mostly Liverpool friendly journalists putting out what Liverpool want in the public domain.
A lot of teams went out and bought other strikers. Because other, better strikers were available. At this point there arent too many top teams that havent already bought attacking players this summer, especially strikers.
Well, it was a ridiculous point. Morally, Suarez should be playing for Doncaster Rovers, but in the real world, he's not going to.
I don't like the bloke. He's not a good guy. But if Wenger gets him playing with respect(provided he joins), then he's fine by me. If he doesn't, I'll be leading the calls for him to be pushed out.
I don't like the bloke. He's not a good guy. But if Wenger gets him playing with respect(provided he joins), then he's fine by me. If he doesn't, I'll be leading the calls for him to be pushed out.
I don't know why Liverpool leaked the Costa stuff though. It was a clear leak, too. Everyone got the news in about one minute flat. It just worsens their bargaining position.
Even Liverpool messiah Benitez would rather spend 37m euro on lesser player Higuain, rather than touching Suarez.
I know I'm several pages late here but what legal action?
He does have a valid contract that he willingly signed and if he wants to buy himself out of it he can do that but apart from that? Unless it's about the infamous "clause" which might be interpreted as a release clause, or at least that's what he'd like I suppose.
He does have a valid contract that he willingly signed and if he wants to buy himself out of it he can do that but apart from that? Unless it's about the infamous "clause" which might be interpreted as a release clause, or at least that's what he'd like I suppose.
It might be a ploy: his advisers are probably hoping that the Liverpool management will say "Court case? Ain't nobody got time for that," & decide to cut their losses by flogging Sewerez.
I'm back from taraweeh. So where are the quotes I asked for two pages back?
Next time you see an article from Arsenal's mouthpieces, salt and pinch.
Next time you see an article from Arsenal's mouthpieces, salt and pinch.
Have to say this is a very odd move for Wenger. Surely he can find someone just as good thats not an utter cnut
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