Arsenal have such a positive figure in Walcott and yet, in the chase for glory/money, they're willing to sign a player convicted of racism. Obviously, my view will be seen as merely biased against Arsenal/Liverpool/Suarez etc etc but it isn't; this (attempted) signing is bloody shameful, and shows how pitifully little professional football institutions care about 'kicking racism out of football.'
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Arsenal have such a positive figure in Walcott and yet, in the chase for glory/money, they're willing to sign a player convicted of racism. Obviously, my view will be seen as merely biased against Arsenal/Liverpool/Suarez etc etc but it isn't; this (attempted) signing is bloody shameful, and shows how pitifully little professional football institutions care about 'kicking racism out of football.'
He only eats white people.
You're talking about a club that paid £35 million for Carroll.
Did they play hard ball with Chelsea over Torres?
Because they value him at £55 million
£55m isn't a realistic fee for someone who's missing 6 games at the start because of a terrible disciplinary record.
The next step is a transfer request. If that comes in, then the wheels will be set in motion. I'm not getting my hopes up though because Madrid could still gazump us.
The next step is a transfer request. If that comes in, then the wheels will be set in motion. I'm not getting my hopes up though because Madrid could still gazump us.
Is injecting the same as eating?
I agree it's a ludicrous fee, but am I missing something here? Would you be happy to sign him?
It seems most reasonable people claim Suarez' clause is simply there to ensure that Liverpool make any bids in excess of X (believed to be 40 mill) known to the player. In other words, it's not a buyout clause in any sense. The question is why Arsenal have now - supposedly - bid a penny over, which can only mean that they want to trigger this seemingly pointless clause. Which again means that there might be some kind of point to it after all. Unless Arsenal are even more embarrassing and incompetent in transfer dealings than we are.
How may CL games does actually Suarez have? Some people Call him world class, but has he ever been on a world class stage?
Perhaps it's a move to be officially in for Suarez, meaning he could push for a move, saving them 10m or so.
I know three Arsenal fans who are just praying for Madrid to take him.
I was thinking earlier on today as I was walking down the street, philosophically considering the Suarez situation, about the idea of forgiveness.
If I heard a news story about a guy who had been in prison for racially aggravated assault and he was being released having served his time, I'd hope he had been rehabilitated and he could get a new job and become a useful member of society once more.
I then translated that across to Suarez. I deplore his past actions, but if he joined Arsenal and learnt the error of his ways, then who am I to say that he doesn't merit a second chance?
If I would give one to a normal man on the street, why not a footballer?
I'll get slaughtered for this because it gives the impression I'm ignoring the fact that he racially abused someone and then bit someone else, but I think there's something to it.
If I heard a news story about a guy who had been in prison for racially aggravated assault and he was being released having served his time, I'd hope he had been rehabilitated and he could get a new job and become a useful member of society once more.
I then translated that across to Suarez. I deplore his past actions, but if he joined Arsenal and learnt the error of his ways, then who am I to say that he doesn't merit a second chance?
If I would give one to a normal man on the street, why not a footballer?
I'll get slaughtered for this because it gives the impression I'm ignoring the fact that he racially abused someone and then bit someone else, but I think there's something to it.
He bit someone. More than once.
Yes, it has to be something along those lines. I don't fully get it, though. Will be interesting to see if it gets cleared up. But I'd guess it has something to do with the formal/official status of the player and the bidding club, which again has a bearing on what happens when/if he does hand in a transfer request.
Alastair, this isn't your finest moment.
Joining Arsenal isn't going to solve his problems, he has issues and should be muzzled.
But you know he's dumb as dogshit and will just do the same shit again. Leaving Arsenal supporters going... feck.
Look, I get the arguments. I think I was quite vehement on here about them at the time. I'm just making the point that this isn't necessarily how we see it in a wider frame.
See, I personally think he had problems from the outset, and then Liverpool made them worse by making him think he could do what he wanted. That ridiculous T-Shirt campaign probably made him think he was untouchable.
He's done countless stupid things, and has yet to learn his lesson, from what I've seen. He' still suspended at the moment for feck sake! 
I think you are talking rubbish, he had his chance a few time, he is a stain on the PL , the quicker he is gone the better.
You would not be saying any of this if he was joining any other team.
He hasn't really done or said much to indicate that he is a reformed man, though, has he? Besides, my impression of the man isn't that he is a "racist" in the sense of subscribing to the Ku Klux Klan channel, but rather that he is an utter opportunist to the point of having no morals - someone who will say and do anything to get the upper hand in any situation he might find himself in: The scousers have generally lapped this up and interpreted it as Suarez being a "winner". So, there's a precedent for you there, if you're willing to follow the lead of the most myopic set of supporters in the land.*
* Yeah, I know, not all Liverpool fans, etc, etc.
Thought I was in the 'RAWK goes into meltdown' thread for a second.
If going by your analogy above.
He racially abused someone. Went into prison. Came out and kicked someone in the chest intentionally, stamped, hacked then bit someone and went back into prison.
That's where the evidence points, but worse characters have been reformed.
If he goes to Arsenal and has a clean season, then will people change their view? Or at least begin to?
I dont understand why any fan wants him in their team, if United said they were going for him I would be horrified.
The notions of 'what happens on the pitch, stays on the pitch' & extreme gamesmanship are ingrained in him. I believe that he genuinely doesn't understand why people make such a fuss over his misbehaviour...so I don't hold out much hope that the biting incident will be the final controversial thing he does.
I'm going to leave this. I'm being taken far too literally.
Heart is in the right place. I agree. I just think there is way to much evidence stacked against him being a wum on the pitch and not even knowing it or thinking it is wrong.
Al, I understand that you & other Gooners might be excited by such a transfer (Suarez is an excellent player, admittedly) but don't let it force you to compromise your beliefs, chief.
I agree cant fault him, but I think he is a lost cause.
Did he not say he wanted to leave Liverpool because the British press had it in for him, how is going to Arsenal going to change that, of anything he will be under their spotlight even more.
Spot on.
Trust me, it won't. I certainly won't be singing his name until a long way into his career when I actually believe he's changed his ways.
alastair's heart that is. Cause if he does sign then it's not like he's going to up stumps and feck off and not support football anymore.
If Bale is going for 80m then I understand Liverpool wanting more due to his form last season
That being said, I wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire. He's a cancer in football
That being said, I wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire. He's a cancer in football
Not weird at all. Fergie retired and Wenger thinks the league is up for grabs now. Before he prob thought wtf is the point I cant beat this old git anymore.
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