Steven Gerrard

While the absence of Gerrard’s experience in the searing spotlight of the Bernabeu is the biggest risk, then it seems Rodgers is also considering resting the likes of Raheem Sterling, and placing his trust in struggling newcomers like Lazar Markovic and Mario Balotelli. (Daily Mirror)

Blimey...
 
Blimey...

Big move. Could see the logic in resting players for the weekend but I don't think we'll win either, rested or not. Priority is the league, though, definitely.

(In other words...I have no idea how to feel about his decision).
 
:lol:

You think he's being "rested", then?

You don't rest your captain away to the best team in Europe when you need a result. That's called being dropped.

There is not really a difference. He's being left out of the squad for the less important fixture so he's fully fit. Madrid away is not an important fixture and is not one where we need a result. Running our players into the ground in a fixture we won't win is a pointless exercise.
 
Big move. Could see the logic in resting players for the weekend but I don't think we'll win either, rested or not. Priority is the league, though, definitely.

(In other words...I have no idea how to feel about his decision).
I think you can beat Chelsea at home, no chance in the Bernabeu - so sensible call.
 
I think you can beat Chelsea at home, no chance in the Bernabeu - so sensible call.

They're going to set up defensively and it won't make a difference the talent they have as it will be playing to their weakness and not their strengths. They will invite pressure and get mauled anyway and the players they rest in the hope they can take a game to Chelsea at Anfield will all be in vain anyway as Chelsea will walk all over them.
 
They're going to set up defensively and it won't make a difference the talent they have as it will be playing to their weakness and not their strengths. They will invite pressure and get mauled anyway and the players they rest in the hope they can take a game to Chelsea at Anfield will all be in vain anyway as Chelsea will walk all over them.

You have to try something.
 
So he's either dropped because he's been so poor or Rodgers is preparing to roll over and have his tummy tickled by Madrid in the hope they can get something against Chelsea instead. Can't see either option going down well with the scouse lot.
 
Big move. Could see the logic in resting players for the weekend but I don't think we'll win either, rested or not. Priority is the league, though, definitely.

(In other words...I have no idea how to feel about his decision).

I admire Rodger's guts though. Although he probably feels this one is a lost cause and not worth the extra effort, playing second team in Bernabeu could probably lead to a massacre
 
There is not really a difference. He's being left out of the squad for the less important fixture so he's fully fit. Madrid away is not an important fixture and is not one where we need a result. Running our players into the ground in a fixture we won't win is a pointless exercise.

LOL

I never thought I'd read this from a Liverpool Fans... what about Believe, Shankly, and Istanbul stuff?
 
There is not really a difference. He's being left out of the squad for the less important fixture so he's fully fit. Madrid away is not an important fixture and is not one where we need a result. Running our players into the ground in a fixture we won't win is a pointless exercise.
Drop some more players against Chelsea too then.
 
It's almost worth staying up until 5am to watch this, but I'll settle for the highlights.
I doubt it will be a massacre to be honest. Scousers will be very defensive. 2-0 I reckon.
 
Will be the best move for all parties involved if he moves to City. He'll have a shot at winning the league. Rodgers, or whoever the next manager is, won't have the conundrum of picking/dropping a club legend. And City can use him like they are using Lampard at the moment and fulfill their home grown quota.
 
It's almost worth staying up until 5am to watch this, but I'll settle for the highlights.
I doubt it will be a massacre to be honest. Scousers will be very defensive. 2-0 I reckon.

They could park the bus and still concede 4 or 5. Their defence is atrocious. I have an early exam so I'll be able to catch the first half. Should be interesting viewing :lol:.
 
There is not really a difference. He's being left out of the squad for the less important fixture so he's fully fit. Madrid away is not an important fixture and is not one where we need a result. Running our players into the ground in a fixture we won't win is a pointless exercise.

Hasn't Rodgers played Gerrard for every minute of the season so far? Surely he could have found time to rest him before this. If he's worried about him being tired, then rest him for Newcastle so you have him for Madrid and Chelsea.

I guess he has conceded defeat already this evening.
 
There is not really a difference. He's being left out of the squad for the less important fixture so he's fully fit. Madrid away is not an important fixture and is not one where we need a result. Running our players into the ground in a fixture we won't win is a pointless exercise.

Really ? Unless you're through every point will count, if football matches were played on paper there would be no point in turning up. Defeatist attitude from Rodgers.

The funny thing is you won't beat Chelsea anyway.
 
There is not really a difference. He's being left out of the squad for the less important fixture so he's fully fit. Madrid away is not an important fixture and is not one where we need a result. Running our players into the ground in a fixture we won't win is a pointless exercise.

Well considering you have 3 points from 3 games I'd say Madrid away is an important fixture.
 
I'd be raging if my team was throwing in the towel. fecking ludogorets almost got a point against Real. Disgraceful from Liverpool if they field a weakened team.
 
Will be the best move for all parties involved if he moves to City. He'll have a shot at winning the league. Rodgers, or whoever the next manager is, won't have the conundrum of picking/dropping a club legend. And City can use him like they are using Lampard at the moment and fulfill their home grown quota.

And I can't help but feel that wouldn't end well. Would be like when the NBA Basketball Legend Karl Malone signed for the LA Lakers in his final season before retiring to try and get a winners medal and completely failed.

If I was Gerrard I would probably see if my agent could earn his money and get me a move to Madrid for a year, even as just a squad player. Spain would maybe be less taxing on the legs and could end up with a league winners medal (even if it's not the Premier League). Although I very much doubt they would want him now.
 
very defeatist attitude from Rodgers i must say

I wonder if his bosses like him basically saying that he'd rather chuck potential big money down the pan than ask his best players to play against Madrid. The players probably want to go and play in Madrid

wonder if its just pre-game nonsense. Wouldnt be surprised to see Gerrard and Sterling start
 
There is not really a difference. He's being left out of the squad for the less important fixture so he's fully fit. Madrid away is not an important fixture and is not one where we need a result. Running our players into the ground in a fixture we won't win is a pointless exercise.

Bloody hell Barney, since when has Real Madrid away in the European Cup not been an important fixture? It is a massive game and no Liverpool team of old would have gone there with that attitude. There is such a thing as pride and I cannot imagine the likes of Bill Shankly or Bob Paisley going there and fielding anything less than their strongest available XI. They'd go believing they could win and so would every Scouser who made the trip over there.
 
Resting your players in the Champions League to better your chances of qualifying for the Champions League.
 
Bloody hell Barney, since when has Real Madrid away in the European Cup not been an important fixture? It is a massive game and no Liverpool team of old would have gone there with that attitude. There is such a thing as pride and I cannot imagine the likes of Bill Shankly or Bob Paisley going there and fielding anything less than their strongest available XI. They'd go believing they could win and so would every Scouser who made the trip over there.

Comparisons to Shankly and Paisley are ridiculous because the game was completely different then. We have two massive fixtures in five days. We obviously have to prioritise. If dropping Sterling and Gerrard helps them be 100% for Chelsea, then I have no problem with that.

This forum is funny at times. Say you don't believe you can win and you get accused of lacking pride. Say you do believe you can challenge for the league and you're called deluded, rather than full of pride.
 
Comparisons to Shankly and Paisley are ridiculous because the game was completely different then. We have two massive fixtures in five days. We obviously have to prioritise. If dropping Sterling and Gerrard helps them be 100% for Chelsea, then I have no problem with that.

This forum is funny at times. Say you don't believe you can win and you get accused of lacking pride. Say you do believe you can challenge for the league and you're called deluded, rather than full of pride.

But you guys have waited so long to be a part of the Champions League again. I mean seriously. Getting in the top four was a huge ambition for the club....and you did it. To now see the game as secondary to the League is...well, for me.... a bit odd.
 
It looks like Rodgers has admitted defeat before a balls been kicked, as a player it must fecking hurt to see your manager do that.
 
If Rodgers does rest players for this game, some Liverpool fans will never let him forget it. If they end up getting tonked, some will want him sacked. It's a huge risk in my opinion. 5 days is enough time to rest for Chelsea (edit: just saw it's 4 days, less than I thought).
 
I can see the logic in resting players tonight to be honest. Watch 'em draw now.
I just think it's what players dream of when first starting. Playing against the Real's and Barca's on a champions league night. I know I'd be pissed off if my manager said he was resting me. Feck that...might never get another chance...
 
Comparisons to Shankly and Paisley are ridiculous because the game was completely different then. We have two massive fixtures in five days. We obviously have to prioritise. If dropping Sterling and Gerrard helps them be 100% for Chelsea, then I have no problem with that.

This forum is funny at times. Say you don't believe you can win and you get accused of lacking pride. Say you do believe you can challenge for the league and you're called deluded, rather than full of pride.

In what way different? It was still eleven against eleven and playing two "massive fixtures" in five days wasn't uncommon at all. In 1977, Liverpool were going for the treble. They won the league and faced United at Wembley before flying to Rome for the European Cup final a few days later. Paisley put his strongest side out at Wembley to face us and had no qualms about it.

This forum is funny at times, but you are a Liverpool fan on a United forum so what do you expect? I imagine that we'd come in for the same sort of flak if we went on a Liverpool forum. Of course you should believe and say that your team can challenge for the league. What Liverpool fan would say otherwise?
 
In what way different? It was still eleven against eleven and playing two "massive fixtures" in five days wasn't uncommon at all. In 1977, Liverpool were going for the treble. They won the league and faced United at Wembley before flying to Rome for the European Cup final a few days later. Paisley put his strongest side out at Wembley to face us and had no qualms about it.

This forum is funny at times, but you are a Liverpool fan on a United forum so what do you expect? I imagine that we'd come in for the same sort of flak if we went on a Liverpool forum. Of course you should believe and say that your team can challenge for the league. What Liverpool fan would say otherwise?

Barney is weird sometimes....he tries to make logic out of the illogical. I don't blame him for defending Rodgers and Liverpool most of the time, but if Fergie had left out Scholes to keep him rested for a game this big against Chelsea at the weekend I would have thought he'd gone mad. I think it highlights the inexperience of Rodgers in Champions League football to be honest
 
Barney is weird sometimes....he tries to make logic out of the illogical. I don't blame him for defending Rodgers and Liverpool most of the time, but if Fergie had left out Scholes to keep him rested for a game this big against Chelsea at the weekend I would have thought he'd gone mad. I think it highlights the inexperience of Rodgers in Champions League football to be honest

You're probably right about that. Seems a very odd thing to do and I doubt that Gerrard is happy with it. Players like that live for this type of game.
 
Resting your players in the Champions League to better your chances of qualifying for the Champions League.
When you put it like that.. Lol

They still have a slight chance to qualify for the next round, and you gotta test yourself against the best. I don't understand the logic in resting your best players for a fixture like this. Bizarre
 
When you put it like that.. Lol

They still have a slight chance to qualify for the next round, and you gotta test yourself against the best. I don't understand the logic in resting your best players for a fixture like this. Bizarre

Extremely bizarre when you consider they are level on points with the two other teams in the group.
Goal difference could be a major factor in who goes through and who doesn't.

If they get hammered and he's dropped half his best players, it is one hell of a mistake
 
I think it's a reasonable decision if he's got the players 'with him' on it. Don't see tonight's result affecting their chances of getting out of the group.