Rodgers is managing him poorly, IMO. Everyone can see that he struggles to cope with two games in a few days but Rodgers continues to start him every game.
Steven Gerrard
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I've got some time for Steve Gerrard unlike a lot of United fans. I think he has received too much stick for his England performances by too many yet you couldn't find another player who was so passionate about and proud of playing for England in the last 10 years except for David Beckham. He busted his guts for England - always - while some others especially under Sven showed signs of believing their own publicity instead of having Stevie G's drive.
And to some exent he has been the Keano of his Liverpool side without Keano's maverick character, controversies and he is less physical, and not as good as our Roy was technically and all-round. I think Stevie G was allowed by successive England managers to do too much on the pitch when in fact England needs a more cerebral approach to cope with the more strategic European and other world teams who also are better technically than England.
I don't think he is finished at Liverpool but he needs a re-definition of his role. He is getting older, his pace is slowing but that can be compensated for by Rogers using him more effectively.
Agreed. It won't be long before he picks up an injury.
If he does Brendan's prayers will probably be answered. Rodgers is trying hard to keep us afloat with the necessity to play Gerrard. He's not 'forced' to obviously, but he's imagining the furore if Liverpool play (or continue playing) badly and he's seen as the manager that dropped our talisman. Its one of those unquantifiable risks.
If Mourinho or Ferguson managed us Gerrard would have been given the hook long ago. Brendan doesn't have their record to back up such a key decision.
Would like it if he's dropped for Hull though, our defence needs some shielding and Stevie's legs will not be up to it so soon after Madrid.
I thought you only needed 8 or 9 players to beat Hull anyway
Sorry I was getting greedy. Keep Gerrard in the team for Saturday then.
Maybe this should be in the Unpopular Opinions Thread but doesn't anyone else have the sneaking sense that Steven Gerrard is a really decent person? Based on nearly everything thats been seen and heard from him over the years, I'd be surprised if he isn't. And now, given the way his career is tailing off into an accretion of personal onfield failures theres a poignancy, a crumpled Merseyside Ellessed-shirtness about him.
The Gerrard of old surely. However players get old. He would be my no 1 cover for Herrera and Di Maria though
Gas should have retired long before same as Scholes, Giggs and Keane. Players shouldn't stay with a club because they can produce 20 minutes of magic every now and then.
I admire the likes of Cantona and Baggio who never stressed on the perceived obligations the club may have towards his own players. Such players are becoming rare these days.
That mean nothing though. It all depends on how many injuries a player had throughout the career, how much he took care of himself etc. Giggs was lucky of having one superb manager who saw things long term. Gerrard had managers who had to swiftly justify their pay check or else they were out. No wonder why players at Liverpool get burnt so quickly (Owen, Torres, Gerrard)
I disagree with Scholes and Giggs to an extent
They both went at the right(ish) time..........Scholes passing and playmaking ability even in his final season is superior to what we have now - Giggs until 36/37 was still very effective - he stayed a season too long but then he was older than Scholes
It's because he is afraid to bench him. I
I hope they don't ever drop him. Its plain obvious he's a liability these days. The Scousers seem to think that as long as you've got some technical ability and a good long pass, you can do a Scholes or Pirlo in midfield. Gerrard is nothing of that sort.
Yep, if we combined Scholes' Brain with Giggs body they could have gone on until 40+
Henderson was terrible, none of those pool midfielders did anything useful yesterday. They have no business being at a club that aspires to be at the top of the european game, no business at all.
Hopefully Gerrard will continue to start every game into his 40's, twatting Hollywood passes to the opposing keeper at every half opportunity.
In fairness to Rodgers it's not like he has better options available. He played Gerrard as an AM against QPR (which is ideally how he should be used ala Giggs) but they were so shit that he had to move back deeper in the 2nd half.
Surely that's partly Rodgers fault for not realising this and replacing him sooner? The manager has to notice stuff like that and work out what to do.
We were victims of it to an extent with Scholes and Giggs. It annoyed me when Scholes came back because it was just delaying the inevitable more than anything and was papering the cracks rather than signing someone for the future.
I liked the moment when my commentator said that Liverpool needs to calm down and try to keep the ball for a bit (I think they were 1 or 2 goals down then). Literally the next thing, Liverpool gets the ball and captain fantastic smashes one of his hollywood passes to Neuer
It was fun watching Gary Neville nit-pick Liverpool's flaws throughout the match. He even made it awkward for his co-commentator whilst discussing the Suarez topic, all while casually managing to slip in a 'mob' reference at Real somewhere in the match
It was fun watching Gary Neville nit-pick Liverpool's flaws throughout the match. He even made it awkward for his co-commentator whilst discussing the Suarez topic, all while casually managing to slip in a 'mob' reference at Real somewhere in the match
I watched it on Russian stream, so don't know what Gary did. Mine was awful, he was going on and on about Anfield's fantastic crowd and how they were so classy that evening
Gary probably had a field day there
I particularly liked the repeated references to how silent Anfield was.
I watched it on Russian stream, so don't know what Gary did. Mine was awful, he was going on and on about Anfield's fantastic crowd and how they were so classy that evening
Gary probably had a field day there
The co-commentator to Neville gave a back-handed compliment to Liverpool fans in this regard. It went something like this, 'Not too many Liverpool fans heading for the exit. They know they are witnessing a special team here, just doesn't happen to be theirs.'
There's talk of him leaving Liverpool at the end of the season. Now, if he joined Chelsea or City (lets just say hypothetically) and won himself a Premier league medal, would you be A) pissed off because the c*nt finally won the premier league, or B) would it be worth watching him lift the trophy with another team just to see the scousers go in to all time meltdown?
C) Watch him slip in a City shirt to cost them the league would probably be the best thing to ever happen in the history of mankind
I dont think I could handle that and I dont think the servers would too.
They wont melt as the scousers would most likely switch teams again.
If they werent one of our biggest rivals,how would people feel about him signing for us for a season ?
While he would'nt be a regular starter,I think he could still contribute something as a decent squad player.
While he would'nt be a regular starter,I think he could still contribute something as a decent squad player.
How can they have a meltdown after they didn't stop going on last year about how he 'deserved it' and 'greatest ever' to not win it. A true travesty, the greatest of injustices #YAWN #RAWK etc.
I could see Mourinho offering him a contract just to wind them up. He hates scousers nearly as much as I do. But no, I don't want to see him ever lifting the premier league. Thank christ that it isn't going to happen at Liverpool.
He's using his media contacts to get himself one last big contract from Liverpool and as he's the most powerful figure at the club I'd be shocked if he wasn't offered a new deal.
Hopefully he stays there and continues being a hindrance to them, Rodgers is never going to drop him so he's going to be in their first 11 regardless of his form.
Hopefully he stays there and continues being a hindrance to them, Rodgers is never going to drop him so he's going to be in their first 11 regardless of his form.
You slipped, didn't you Stevie.
I had a dream Stevie G was a medical rep for Viagra and he introduced their new slogan as 'We go again'.
He can do one, missed his opportunity back in 2005. Story of what could have been for him.
Say if he went to Chelsea back then do you think a midfield trio of Makelele-Gerrard-Lampard could have worked any better than the one with Essien? Or would the Lampard-Gerrard conundrum resume on the club stage even with the presence of a holding midfielder alongside them?
Just think Essien was a better fit in that midfield and might even have been a better one than Chelsea buying Gerrard and putting him in their midfield.
Give this man a contract!
You can pick out the exact same crawling ffreeze-frameas from the Chelsea slipGive him a new contact already, ffs!