Just need Lampard to go now and it’ll hopefully be then end of these inadequate managers getting jobs based on the playing career and club connections.
Steven Gerrard | Al-Ettifaq Manager
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As opposed to what?
It won’t be the end. There’s always a managerial merry-go-round at the lower premiership clubs.
Hey nothing wrong with Neill Lennon!
Why exactly did Gerrard not deserve a chance after his stint in Scotland? Obviously, it hasn't worked out, and it seems likely that he isn't great without his coach that left, but he hardly got the job out of the blue.
All managers must prove themselves in farmers leagues (except Scotland)
Just a general point on Tuchel: he always was quite flexible in regard to formations, so you can't really call it "his back three", as he used a back four quite often as well during his career. Just at Chelsea he saw a back three a better fit and therefore obviously that's the most people in England saw from him.
At Mainz, which would propably be the best comparison to Villa as both are (lower) midtable sides in their league, he had the reputation of moving players around like chess pieces because he changed formation for almost every match to counter whatever team they played against.
With the likes of Tuchel and Poch unemployed it's a good time for villa to do their sacking. Villa have the 4th richest owners in the EPL, a fact that goes under the radar a bit to non villa fans, so they will have deep enough pockets to hire top managers.
No..... I was hoping for him to do well enough and take over Liverpool before the inevitable implosion.
It's a nonsensical comment from the school of thought amongst most football fans that in addition to coaching badges and passing the club job interview, a manager has to "prove himself" like in Football Manager by managing at every point in the football pyramid and succeeding against the odds. Otherwise their jobs were obtained by cronyism.
I don't know why anyone would have an issue with former players of the previous generation staying in the game through avenues like management. It makes games a lot more interesting having the likes of Viera, Lampard, and Gerrard in the mix.
Same. He was going to be their Ole.
At least Lampard has managed to build a decent relationship with the Goodison faithful, who will be a lot more patient with him than Villa fans have been with Gerrard.
Feck. I wanted him to do good enough at Villa so he will replace Klopp.
Slipping on his way out.
Yeah, between the two, Lampard is definitely a lot less egoistic and relatable in interviews.
Number of differences between Lampard and Gerrard so far despite the similar performance. Lampard seems to have a clear plan with how he wants his side to play and has connected with the support and club. I never really understood what Gerrard wanted to do with Villa and he always seemed incredibly spiky with the media and never built up any sort of rapport with the fans.
What is worrying for us and Lampard though is we need to get wins quickly or we will fall behind teams like Villa etc., because they'll replace the likes of Gerrard with a much better manager.
What is worrying for us and Lampard though is we need to get wins quickly or we will fall behind teams like Villa etc., because they'll replace the likes of Gerrard with a much better manager.
I'll always forgive Fat Frank after his outburst at Klopp on the touchline.
Will he humble himself and go down a division and actually learn the craft. He did well with Rangers but Celtic were in disarray. That Aussie manager with the long name would have humbled him had he stayed at Rangers.
Most of the games top managers were very average footballers, Mourinho and Wenger were barely professionals
Most of the games top managers were very average footballers, Mourinho and Wenger were barely professionals
He honestly thought he was going to manage Liverpool. I reckon Klopp wouldn't even want him as one of his assistants.
Gerrard will take over Southgate after the debacle in Qatar.
Nah..stuff like this makes football interesting. Also Lampard is doing alright
There's no way Tuchel goes to Aston Villa.
What he should have done originally, or gone abroad but we'll find out now if he has anything about him at all now.
I don't think he has it in him or does he?
Shame. I really wanted him to crash and burn with Liverpool, that would've been glorious to watch.
Apart from what we see on the pitch, the nearest we can get to build opinions about managers is through the media. The results speak for themselves. Entertainment value was zero and in his pre and post match interviews he was a disaster imo. Indirectly threw his players under the bus and had a way of putting himself above them. Continuously overrating and heaping praise on an individual player (Ashley Young) who is not that good couldn't have helped his relationship with the group either. Then at the end of it all he lacks the main quality CHARISMA!
Considering he's 40ish, my mood would be way up there with his hairline, fk the job.
Time for Southgate to come in a finish the job and relegate them.
Aye. It's a silly point to level at Gerrard who (a) turned down the offer of a manager's job with MK Dons upon his retirement to learn his trade first, (b) spent a couple of seasons working with under-18s, (c) moved to a club in a smaller league, (d) proved himself there and, perhaps more importantly, in Europe as well, (e) and then - five years after becoming a manager - joins a Premier League club.
He can spend all his time now it’s all the drug dealers he wants
Good post.
Following the football pyramid by getting incrementally better jobs is by no means is a recipe for success. Plenty of good managers skip several stages too.
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It also assumes that managing in a lower league is somehow easier and doesn’t require a lot of experience.
Just because you might not have the big egos and the glare of the press doesn’t mean your life is going to be simple. For a start you’re not going to have a load of high quality assistants to do the bits of the job you’re less confident in.
Locked everyone in the dressing room and assaulted stadium personnel apparently 
Psychopath.
Psychopath.Good point on that whole issue, on different levels you need different skills.
At small clubs/in lower leagues you have to do much on your own, while at bigger clubs you need to use a big staff effectively. It looks like he did well to assemble a staff at first, but didn't find a good replacement for his coach and that was his downfall at Villa.
He will get away with it, even if there is footage.Locked everyone in the dressing room and assaulted stadium personnel apparently
No Phil Collins on the jukebox
Showed character and shiet...