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Add to that list - 'being coached by LvG' - something that lots of people never seem to factor in when talking about potential signings. Sterling coached by LvG for a season would be a FAR better player than we've seen thus far.

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Liverpool are ruining him by playing him so many minutes of every game. Hes only just turned 20, he should not have this much game time with his frame. This will cost Sterling long term.
 
Which is fair enough, but its short term vision which isnt even winning them games. I know they are desperate but how bad is their youth? They did this to Owen and somewhat Torres as well.
 
Rodgers is not an idiot. He is switching his formation to make up for the overall lack of quality. But it cannot hide the averagness of his squad with one or two exceptions as I said. They were there for the taking today...and Arsenal stood back...Wenger really has a lot to answer for...

I think they will switch back to a back 4 when Sturridge becomes available...Sterling will most likely be played up front with him...but that only masks the absolute disasters that are Balotelli and Lambert.
 
Sterling's a much better player than Januzaj, imo.
Of course he's a much better player, unless someone wants to play the "different type of players" card or the "surrounded by better players" card, the former of which I think is the most meaningless excuse.
 
Januzaj has regressed under LVG.

Its interesting that there are so many comments on this page about how Brendan cant take Sterling to "the next level" and how LVG would improve him so much, whilst our own world-class/prodigy/prospect has indeed regressed.

The long term impact is yet to be felt of course and LVG may be justified in resting Januzaj, but I certainly dont think that it is a given that if we somehow signed Sterling, that he would improve dramatically under LVG.
 
Liverpool are ruining him by playing him so many minutes of every game. Hes only just turned 20, he should not have this much game time with his frame. This will cost Sterling long term.
Get with the times, Sylar. "Long term" is a dirty word in football and a departure from accepted beliefs.
 
Get with the times, Sylar. "Long term" is a dirty word in football and a departure from accepted beliefs.

Which is a fair enough point but given football, a years time is long term. Hell, they are going to wipe him out before the end of the season.
 
If I was Sterling I'd tell them to piss of off and all. Forget his age or conventional wisdom about working your way up to big money, he's one of their most important players and he has consistently produced over the last couple of seasons. The market rate for that is much higher.
 
Which is a fair enough point but given football, a years time is long term. Hell, they are going to wipe him out before the end of the season.
The sooner he turns rubbish the better! He's the only Liverpool player keeping them a mid-table team.
 
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The truth is that it's probably just the usual contract negotiations where the player rejects a couple of time and gets the fans putting pressure on the club.

If Sterling has got any brains though he will realise that Liverpool are a club going nowhere very fast and while he's still young and has to develop before he moves to a big club, Liverpool aren't the sort of club to nurture young talents correctly. They have a penchant for over relying on them and forcing them to play more than what is good for them in the short and long term.
 
Just this page alone this is what I have learnt so far from our superior Utd brains:

1. Rodgers will finish him midtable (the only full season in Raheem's career has seen him almost winning the league. Ended 2nd)
2. Liverpool are not a club to nurture young talent :lol:
3. LvG is a far superior manager of young talent ergo Januzaj must be obviously shit (which one is it Utd fans?)
4. LvG is as good as Mourinho...now that....that is gold.
 
Just this page alone this is what I have learnt so far from our superior Utd brains:

1. Rodgers will finish him midtable (the only full season in Raheem's career has seen him almost winning the league. Ended 2nd)
2. Liverpool are not a club to nurture young talent :lol:
3. LvG is a far superior manager of young talent ergo Januzaj must be obviously shit (which one is it Utd fans?)
4. LvG is as good as Mourinho...now that....that is gold.
What's wrong with that last point? There is nothing to suggest that Maureen is better than LVG. Both are successful in different countries. LVG will prove himself here no doubt.
 
Just this page alone this is what I have learnt so far from our superior Utd brains:

1. Rodgers will finish him midtable (the only full season in Raheem's career has seen him almost winning the league. Ended 2nd)
2. Liverpool are not a club to nurture young talent :lol:
3. LvG is a far superior manager of young talent ergo Januzaj must be obviously shit (which one is it Utd fans?)
4. LvG is as good as Mourinho...now that....that is gold.

1. In fairness, it does look like Liverpool are on course for a poor finish.
2. Owen and Gerrard... but that was quite a while ago. Who was the last mainstay of the Liverpool first team to come through the youth system? Sterling is the only one I can think of. Flanagan too, but he still has to prove himself over the course of a season or two.
3. LvG has a better record than Rodgers, that's for sure. Is Januzaj shit? or is Van Gaal not playing him because he's a teenager and we have better options? Probably the latter.
4. I don't think LvG is necessarily as good as Mourinho -- Mourinho, for me, is the best around... but the gap really isn't that wide. Four best coaches in the world: Mourinho, Pep, Van Gaal, Ancelotti -- Simeone and Klopp fight it out for 5th. Rodgers probably isn't in the top 20.
 
3. LvG is a far superior manager of young talent ergo Januzaj must be obviously shit (which one is it Utd fans?)
Mourinho is a great manager in his own right. However, he mostly buys teams. LvG does have a history of nurturing young players from the youth system. United have better options up front than Adnan at this moment in time, and cannot get into the team. Hardly means he's "shit".
 
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1. In fairness, it does look like Liverpool are on course for a poor finish.
2. Owen and Gerrard... but that was quite a while ago. Who was the last mainstay of the Liverpool first team to come through the youth system? Sterling is the only one I can think of. Flanagan too, but he still has to prove himself over the course of a season or two.
3. LvG has a better record than Rodgers, that's for sure. Is Januzaj shit? or is Van Gaal not playing him because he's a teenager and we have better options? Probably the latter.
4. I don't think LvG is necessarily as good as Mourinho -- Mourinho, for me, is the best around... but the gap really isn't that wide. Four best coaches in the world: Mourinho, Pep, Van Gaal, Ancelotti -- Simeone and Klopp fight it out for 5th. Rodgers probably isn't in the top 20.

I was going to try and balance this assertion, but I'm struggling to think of a manager - outside of those mentioned - that I'd rather have than Van Gaal...

Interesting.
 
I was going to try and balance this assertion, but I'm struggling to think of a manager - outside of those mentioned - that I'd rather have than Van Gaal...

Interesting.

Hiddink, Capello, and Trapattoni would be honourable mentions, but their age/current positions sees them outside of the top 4-5.
 
I was going to try and balance this assertion, but I'm struggling to think of a manager - outside of those mentioned - that I'd rather have than Van Gaal...

Interesting.

Interesting indeed. I'm popping over the Utd thread to do some Van Gaal searches 18 months ago before The Chosen One was well chosen. Just to see what posters were saying then, or indeed if LvG was even being mentioned with such grandeur and praise.

Edit: found bits and bobs but LvG (or Van Gaal as everyone was calling him before he became your darling) was mentioned behind the likes of Klopp. Certainly none of the sounds we're hearing now that he's wearing the red of Manchester. Funny how perceptions can be inflated after such events.
 
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Interesting indeed. I'm popping over the Utd thread to do some Van Gaal searches 18 months ago before The Chosen One was well chosen. Just to see what posters were saying then, or indeed if LvG was even being mentioned with such grandeur and praise.

Edit: found bits and bobs but LvG (or Van Gaal as everyone was calling him before he became your darling) was mentioned behind the likes of Klopp. Certainly none of the sounds we're hearing now that he's wearing the red of Manchester. Funny how perceptions can be inflated after such events.

Name me a manager, beyond the 5 in my quoted post, who would be distinctly more preferable than Van Gaal.
 
Interesting indeed. I'm popping over the Utd thread to do some Van Gaal searches 18 months ago before The Chosen One was well chosen. Just to see what posters were saying then, or indeed if LvG was even being mentioned with such grandeur and praise.

Edit: found bits and bobs but LvG (or Van Gaal as everyone was calling him before he became your darling) was mentioned behind the likes of Klopp. Certainly none of the sounds we're hearing now that he's wearing the red of Manchester. Funny how perceptions can be inflated after such events.
Sthing like whenever some player puts on Liverpool shirt he instantly becomes the best around.

As for you laughing about Liverpool not being a good club to nurture young talent. Well Liverpool is not really known for nurturing good talents isnt it? Other points you mentioned are true too, except the Mourinho one but as it was said its not a big gap.
 
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Interesting indeed. I'm popping over the Utd thread to do some Van Gaal searches 18 months ago before The Chosen One was well chosen. Just to see what posters were saying then, or indeed if LvG was even being mentioned with such grandeur and praise.

Edit: found bits and bobs but LvG (or Van Gaal as everyone was calling him before he became your darling) was mentioned behind the likes of Klopp. Certainly none of the sounds we're hearing now that he's wearing the red of Manchester. Funny how perceptions can be inflated after such events.

I don't see how this is "funny". LvG has come to United and has done a decent job. Also, Klopp has taken his Dortmund side to the bottom of the German league. You think sentiments will be the same now? Sounds like a logical change in opinion given the changes that has happened over time. Much like some opinions of Balotelli.
 
Not sure why it's become fact that Sterling is overplayed. These people who claim such a thing arrive at this conclusion based on Sterling's form which has far more to do with the team's overarching dysfunction than any perceived burn out. Hence why he's looked better on the past 10 days - the team are functioning better.
 
Not sure why it's become fact that Sterling is overplayed. These people who claim such a thing arrive at this conclusion based on Sterling's form which has far more to do with the team's overarching dysfunction than any perceived burn out. Hence why he's looked better on the past 10 days - the team are functioning better.

I don't get it either. The problem with Owen was that he was rushed back from injuries, wasn't it? That hasn't really happened with sterling as far as I can remember at least. As long as he's fit and performing well he should play. Really struggling to see how it can be bad for his development to play regularly at the highest level.
 
It wont ever happen but imagine the reactions if he came to us.
I would have said the same about RVP and Mata, you just never know what will happen in football.
 
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