ffs im like a Mr. Proper of drafts
Stars and Reserves Draft - Winner: Gio
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ffs im like a Mr. Proper of drafts
I did set myself up for that one.You and 2mufc0 seemed quite happy with that pointless draw
Has anyone ever been happy with his draw?
Drawing the guy who designed the draft can't be a good omen for me
I would have preferred to draw someone else because it feels like I'm playing against you in every draft lately
I am surprised that I got both Evra and Jorginho, in my opinion the two best wing backs in the reserve pool. I was pissed when Leandro got drafted because he was my backup option for Jorginho and I never expected him to last till the end.
Or maybe I got the Brazilian right backs ratings wrong and Leandro is the better one? Of course there is Maicon as well, who went even earlier. I am confused.
Can I have some expert opinion on this? @oneniltothearsenal
I would have preferred to draw someone else because it feels like I'm playing against you in every draft lately
I am surprised that I got both Evra and Jorginho, in my opinion the two best wing backs in the reserve pool. I was pissed when Leandro got drafted because he was my backup option for Jorginho and I never expected him to last till the end.
Or maybe I got the Brazilian right backs ratings wrong and Leandro is the better one? Of course there is Maicon as well, who went even earlier. I am confused.
Can I have some expert opinion on this? @oneniltothearsenal
We picked Sagnol who i rate quite highly.. Think Jorginho, Sagnol, Leandro are pretty much at the same level?
I'd probably pick Maicon ahead of the rest, the guy was a beast, shame that it didn't last long.
Was going to say the same, he'd be my first choice there. I picked Kimmich early as the best young player available though
Yeah agree for the most part. Would take him over Jorginho for sure. It's hard to overlook how short that peak was though. And as with all modern defenders, it's very easy to remember their horror shows - especially those past their peak. It is a perception but perceptions matter.
I'd put Sagnol a level above for his consistency and performances at the highest level of multiple competitions. Leandro alongside him on quality, but not perceptions
I'd put Sagnol ahead based on proven performance across different top competitions, but overall they are on same level.
And all 3 of them over Maicon.
It's pointless ranking tier 2 full backs. They all get treated the same irrespective of what they were good at doing.
Between Jorginho and Leandro, I'd rate Jorginho higher.
I picked Armfield who I rate quite highly.. Think Jorginho Maicon, Sagnol, Hernandez, Leandro are pretty much at the same level?
I'd put Armfield ahead based on proven performance across different top competitions, but overall they are on same level.
I don't know but between Maicon and Leandro, I'd rate Kimmich higher.
Regarding modern players, it's hard to overlook how short that peak was though. And as with all modern defenders, it's very easy to remember their horror shows - especially those past their peak. It is a perception but perceptions matter.
Anyway, it's pointless ranking tier 4 full backs. They all get treated the same irrespective of what they were good at do
I'd put Armfield ahead based on proven performance across different top competitions, but overall they are on same level.
I don't know but between Maicon and Leandro, I'd rate Kimmich higher.
Regarding modern players, it's hard to overlook how short that peak was though. And as with all modern defenders, it's very easy to remember their horror shows - especially those past their peak. It is a perception but perceptions matter.
Anyway, it's pointless ranking tier 4 full backs. They all get treated the same irrespective of what they were good at do
Proxy wars about full-backs already . Needless to say Edgar is, as ever, wrong and harms is unquestionably correct.
. Needless to say Edgar is, as ever, wrong and harms is unquestionably correct.Bale says otherwise. And I don't even rate Bale that highly.
Go back to your alcohol.
Post-peak Maicon.
Ruben Neves
I would have preferred to draw someone else because it feels like I'm playing against you in every draft lately
I am surprised that I got both Evra and Jorginho, in my opinion the two best wing backs in the reserve pool. I was pissed when Leandro got drafted because he was my backup option for Jorginho and I never expected him to last till the end.
Or maybe I got the Brazilian right backs ratings wrong and Leandro is the better one? Of course there is Maicon as well, who went even earlier. I am confused.
Can I have some expert opinion on this? @oneniltothearsenal
I'm too exhausted to think straight but I'd rate Jorginho more all around and Leandro better attacking but its fairly close I'd say
Thought you were cool invictus!
When was that, late 2010? I thought Maicon's peak was 2009-10. When do you consider his peak?
1. GodShaveTheQueen - 1) *D. Dzajic 2) *K. Hamrin 3) O. Sivori 4) I. Netto 5) R. Bonhof 6) I. Rush 7) R. Ferri
2. Brwned - 1) *M. Laudrup 2) M. Salah 3) ^L. Sane 4) R. Varane 5) *L. Modric 6) *L. Junior 7) Leandro
3. Michaelf7777777/cubemine - 1) R. Bochini 2) G. Bulgarelli 3. R. Benetti 4) Germano (POR) 5) R. Gordillo 6) D. Bertoni 7) I. Casillas
4. Šjor Bepo/Pat_Mustard - 1) N. Liedholm 2) *O. Blokhin 3) E. Francescoli 4) A. Benarrivo 5) K. De Bruyne 6) Maicon 7) J. Terry 8) J. Mascherano
5. EAP/Indy/OneNil - 1) *U. Seeler 2) W. Sagnol 3) *B. Lizarazu 4) D. Blanchflower 5) L. Brady 6) G. Popescu 7) *Kaka 8. ^R Neves
6. Jim Beam/Invictus - 1) *H. Stoichkov 2) F. Albert 3) *J. Bozsik 4) D. Villa 5) M. Silva 6) A. Amaro 7) O. Kahn 8) G. Buchwald
7. Don Alfredo - 1) *P. Nedved 2) C. Vieri 3) J. Heynckes 4) P. Evra 5) V. van Dijk 6) ^M. De Ligt 7) C. Gamarra 8) Jorginho
8. P-Nut0712/Arbitrium - 1) Neymar 2) ^J. Kimmich 3) J. Veron 4) *K-H Schnellinger 5) C. Puyol 6) N. Stiles 7) *A. Shesternyov 8) *G. Batistuta
9. Moby - 1) *Jairzinho 2) *Rivelino 3) *B. Schuster 4) ^L. Hernandez 5) R. Bratseth 6) S. Lerby 7) M. Essien 8) P. Rossi
10. green_smiley -1) K. Keegan 2) A. Simonsen 3) F. Ribery 4) H-G Schwarzenbeck 5) *E. Gerets 6) H. Blankenburg 7) *H-P Briegel 8) V. Jugovic
11. Gio - 1) *F. Gento 2) D. Savicevic 3) H. Sanchez 4) W. Schulz 5) B. Bremner 6) *G. Rivera 7) R. Rosato 8) R. Dzodzuashvili
12. Physiocrat - 1) *T. Finney 2) J. Barnes 3) M. Olsen 4) *W. Overath 5. M. Tassotti 6. H. Crespo 7) E. Hughes 8) F. Collovati
13. MJJ - 1) N. Kante 2) P. Pogba 3) W. Rooney 4) *Marcelo 5) K. Mbappe 6) O .Bergmark 7) ^M. Skriniar 8) K. Samson
14. Ecstatic - 1) *J. Greaves 2) *D. Beckham 3) *R. Giggs 4) *P. Vieira 5) K. Dalglish 6) D. Mackay 7) J. Armfield 8) J. Popluhár
15. Skizzo - 1) E. Cantona 2) A. Shearer 3) A. Hansen 4) D. Irwin 5) R. Donadoni 6) T. Adams 7) P. Shilton 8) P. Cocu
16. Himannv/2mufc0 - 1) *R. Kopa 2) A. Costacurta 3) E. Hazard 4) S. Aguero 5) S. Effenberg 6) G. Bale 7) *M. Amoros 8) G. Zambrotta
@Michaelf7777777 @cubemine
2. Brwned - 1) *M. Laudrup 2) M. Salah 3) ^L. Sane 4) R. Varane 5) *L. Modric 6) *L. Junior 7) Leandro
3. Michaelf7777777/cubemine - 1) R. Bochini 2) G. Bulgarelli 3. R. Benetti 4) Germano (POR) 5) R. Gordillo 6) D. Bertoni 7) I. Casillas
4. Šjor Bepo/Pat_Mustard - 1) N. Liedholm 2) *O. Blokhin 3) E. Francescoli 4) A. Benarrivo 5) K. De Bruyne 6) Maicon 7) J. Terry 8) J. Mascherano
5. EAP/Indy/OneNil - 1) *U. Seeler 2) W. Sagnol 3) *B. Lizarazu 4) D. Blanchflower 5) L. Brady 6) G. Popescu 7) *Kaka 8. ^R Neves
6. Jim Beam/Invictus - 1) *H. Stoichkov 2) F. Albert 3) *J. Bozsik 4) D. Villa 5) M. Silva 6) A. Amaro 7) O. Kahn 8) G. Buchwald
7. Don Alfredo - 1) *P. Nedved 2) C. Vieri 3) J. Heynckes 4) P. Evra 5) V. van Dijk 6) ^M. De Ligt 7) C. Gamarra 8) Jorginho
8. P-Nut0712/Arbitrium - 1) Neymar 2) ^J. Kimmich 3) J. Veron 4) *K-H Schnellinger 5) C. Puyol 6) N. Stiles 7) *A. Shesternyov 8) *G. Batistuta
9. Moby - 1) *Jairzinho 2) *Rivelino 3) *B. Schuster 4) ^L. Hernandez 5) R. Bratseth 6) S. Lerby 7) M. Essien 8) P. Rossi
10. green_smiley -1) K. Keegan 2) A. Simonsen 3) F. Ribery 4) H-G Schwarzenbeck 5) *E. Gerets 6) H. Blankenburg 7) *H-P Briegel 8) V. Jugovic
11. Gio - 1) *F. Gento 2) D. Savicevic 3) H. Sanchez 4) W. Schulz 5) B. Bremner 6) *G. Rivera 7) R. Rosato 8) R. Dzodzuashvili
12. Physiocrat - 1) *T. Finney 2) J. Barnes 3) M. Olsen 4) *W. Overath 5. M. Tassotti 6. H. Crespo 7) E. Hughes 8) F. Collovati
13. MJJ - 1) N. Kante 2) P. Pogba 3) W. Rooney 4) *Marcelo 5) K. Mbappe 6) O .Bergmark 7) ^M. Skriniar 8) K. Samson
14. Ecstatic - 1) *J. Greaves 2) *D. Beckham 3) *R. Giggs 4) *P. Vieira 5) K. Dalglish 6) D. Mackay 7) J. Armfield 8) J. Popluhár
15. Skizzo - 1) E. Cantona 2) A. Shearer 3) A. Hansen 4) D. Irwin 5) R. Donadoni 6) T. Adams 7) P. Shilton 8) P. Cocu
16. Himannv/2mufc0 - 1) *R. Kopa 2) A. Costacurta 3) E. Hazard 4) S. Aguero 5) S. Effenberg 6) G. Bale 7) *M. Amoros 8) G. Zambrotta
@Michaelf7777777 @cubemine
Just scored against Liverpool.. He’s the greatest ever.. Did Redondo ever score against Liverpool?
Tbf: He’s probably amongst the top youth prospects right now and has been doing very well for a while. Even at his previous club you could see his talent
Would love to have him at United
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Peaked from somewhere around the time he joined into and seemed to decline remarkably quickly post-Treble winning season.
Some gifs of Neves
Totally understand the unimpressive perception towards Leandro - and I accept the challenge to prove you wrong!
- but don't understand the Jorginho rating at all...On world cup performances they're level at best, and Leandro consistently performed at that level for years in multiple positions...while Jorginho was a relatively unimpressive player otherwise. What makes you think Jorginho had a better career, or a much higher peak?
By the way I'm very drunk so might not realise my go until a while later...and haven't got a clue what my pick is yet
But I will make some kind pic at some point in the wee hours of the morning I won't go over the limit!
But I will make some kind pic at some point in the wee hours of the morning
I won't go over the limit!Mirsad Fazlagic will be our next selection please
1. GodShaveTheQueen - 1) *D. Dzajic 2) *K. Hamrin 3) O. Sivori 4) I. Netto 5) R. Bonhof 6) I. Rush 7) R. Ferri
2. Brwned - 1) *M. Laudrup 2) M. Salah 3) ^L. Sane 4) R. Varane 5) *L. Modric 6) *L. Junior 7) Leandro
3. Michaelf7777777/cubemine - 1) R. Bochini 2) G. Bulgarelli 3. R. Benetti 4) Germano (POR) 5) R. Gordillo 6) D. Bertoni 7) I. Casillas 8) M. Fazlagic
4. Šjor Bepo/Pat_Mustard - 1) N. Liedholm 2) *O. Blokhin 3) E. Francescoli 4) A. Benarrivo 5) K. De Bruyne 6) Maicon 7) J. Terry 8) J. Mascherano
5. EAP/Indy/OneNil - 1) *U. Seeler 2) W. Sagnol 3) *B. Lizarazu 4) D. Blanchflower 5) L. Brady 6) G. Popescu 7) *Kaka 8. ^R Neves
6. Jim Beam/Invictus - 1) *H. Stoichkov 2) F. Albert 3) *J. Bozsik 4) D. Villa 5) M. Silva 6) A. Amaro 7) O. Kahn 8) G. Buchwald
7. Don Alfredo - 1) *P. Nedved 2) C. Vieri 3) J. Heynckes 4) P. Evra 5) V. van Dijk 6) ^M. De Ligt 7) C. Gamarra 8) Jorginho
8. P-Nut0712/Arbitrium - 1) Neymar 2) ^J. Kimmich 3) J. Veron 4) *K-H Schnellinger 5) C. Puyol 6) N. Stiles 7) *A. Shesternyov 8) *G. Batistuta
9. Moby - 1) *Jairzinho 2) *Rivelino 3) *B. Schuster 4) ^L. Hernandez 5) R. Bratseth 6) S. Lerby 7) M. Essien 8) P. Rossi
10. green_smiley -1) K. Keegan 2) A. Simonsen 3) F. Ribery 4) H-G Schwarzenbeck 5) *E. Gerets 6) H. Blankenburg 7) *H-P Briegel 8) V. Jugovic
11. Gio - 1) *F. Gento 2) D. Savicevic 3) H. Sanchez 4) W. Schulz 5) B. Bremner 6) *G. Rivera 7) R. Rosato 8) R. Dzodzuashvili
12. Physiocrat - 1) *T. Finney 2) J. Barnes 3) M. Olsen 4) *W. Overath 5. M. Tassotti 6. H. Crespo 7) E. Hughes 8) F. Collovati
13. MJJ - 1) N. Kante 2) P. Pogba 3) W. Rooney 4) *Marcelo 5) K. Mbappe 6) O .Bergmark 7) ^M. Skriniar 8) K. Samson
14. Ecstatic - 1) *J. Greaves 2) *D. Beckham 3) *R. Giggs 4) *P. Vieira 5) K. Dalglish 6) D. Mackay 7) J. Armfield 8) J. Popluhár
15. Skizzo - 1) E. Cantona 2) A. Shearer 3) A. Hansen 4) D. Irwin 5) R. Donadoni 6) T. Adams 7) P. Shilton 8) P. Cocu
16. Himannv/2mufc0 - 1) *R. Kopa 2) A. Costacurta 3) E. Hazard 4) S. Aguero 5) S. Effenberg 6) G. Bale 7) *M. Amoros 8) G. Zambrotta
1. GodShaveTheQueen - 1) *D. Dzajic 2) *K. Hamrin 3) O. Sivori 4) I. Netto 5) R. Bonhof 6) I. Rush 7) R. Ferri
2. Brwned - 1) *M. Laudrup 2) M. Salah 3) ^L. Sane 4) R. Varane 5) *L. Modric 6) *L. Junior 7) Leandro
3. Michaelf7777777/cubemine - 1) R. Bochini 2) G. Bulgarelli 3. R. Benetti 4) Germano (POR) 5) R. Gordillo 6) D. Bertoni 7) I. Casillas 8) M. Fazlagic
4. Šjor Bepo/Pat_Mustard - 1) N. Liedholm 2) *O. Blokhin 3) E. Francescoli 4) A. Benarrivo 5) K. De Bruyne 6) Maicon 7) J. Terry 8) J. Mascherano
5. EAP/Indy/OneNil - 1) *U. Seeler 2) W. Sagnol 3) *B. Lizarazu 4) D. Blanchflower 5) L. Brady 6) G. Popescu 7) *Kaka 8. ^R Neves
6. Jim Beam/Invictus - 1) *H. Stoichkov 2) F. Albert 3) *J. Bozsik 4) D. Villa 5) M. Silva 6) A. Amaro 7) O. Kahn 8) G. Buchwald
7. Don Alfredo - 1) *P. Nedved 2) C. Vieri 3) J. Heynckes 4) P. Evra 5) V. van Dijk 6) ^M. De Ligt 7) C. Gamarra 8) Jorginho
8. P-Nut0712/Arbitrium - 1) Neymar 2) ^J. Kimmich 3) J. Veron 4) *K-H Schnellinger 5) C. Puyol 6) N. Stiles 7) *A. Shesternyov 8) *G. Batistuta
9. Moby - 1) *Jairzinho 2) *Rivelino 3) *B. Schuster 4) ^L. Hernandez 5) R. Bratseth 6) S. Lerby 7) M. Essien 8) P. Rossi
10. green_smiley -1) K. Keegan 2) A. Simonsen 3) F. Ribery 4) H-G Schwarzenbeck 5) *E. Gerets 6) H. Blankenburg 7) *H-P Briegel 8) V. Jugovic
11. Gio - 1) *F. Gento 2) D. Savicevic 3) H. Sanchez 4) W. Schulz 5) B. Bremner 6) *G. Rivera 7) R. Rosato 8) R. Dzodzuashvili
12. Physiocrat - 1) *T. Finney 2) J. Barnes 3) M. Olsen 4) *W. Overath 5. M. Tassotti 6. H. Crespo 7) E. Hughes 8) F. Collovati
13. MJJ - 1) N. Kante 2) P. Pogba 3) W. Rooney 4) *Marcelo 5) K. Mbappe 6) O .Bergmark 7) ^M. Skriniar 8) K. Samson
14. Ecstatic - 1) *J. Greaves 2) *D. Beckham 3) *R. Giggs 4) *P. Vieira 5) K. Dalglish 6) D. Mackay 7) J. Armfield 8) J. Popluhár
15. Skizzo - 1) E. Cantona 2) A. Shearer 3) A. Hansen 4) D. Irwin 5) R. Donadoni 6) T. Adams 7) P. Shilton 8) P. Cocu
16. Himannv/2mufc0 - 1) *R. Kopa 2) A. Costacurta 3) E. Hazard 4) S. Aguero 5) S. Effenberg 6) G. Bale 7) *M. Amoros 8) G. Zambrotta
By the way I'm very drunk so might not realise my go until a while later...and haven't got a clue what my pick is yet
But I will make some kind pic at some point in the wee hours of the morning
It's your turn now
Brwned is 'very drunk' so maybe not in a position to make a pick so that maybe he should take the most enlightened decision in the morning;
which doesn't prevent @Don Alfredo to collect via PM the picks of GodSaveTheQueen in the meantime
which doesn't prevent @Don Alfredo to collect via PM the picks of GodSaveTheQueen in the meantime
I'm alive! Just need to roll a spliff as I think. Then will pass on my next pick to mr god
Ah man my timing was so bad. Just 1 min too early! Sorry folks. Kept alert as long as was physically possible
Ah man my timing was so bad. Just 1 min too early! Sorry folks. Kept alert as long as was physically possible
I have his picks so feel free to send your second pick to me as well
1. GodShaveTheQueen - 1) *D. Dzajic 2) *K. Hamrin 3) O. Sivori 4) I. Netto 5) R. Bonhof 6) I. Rush 7) R. Ferri
2. Brwned - 1) *M. Laudrup 2) M. Salah 3) ^L. Sane 4) R. Varane 5) *L. Modric 6) *L. Junior 7) Leandro 8) Ramos
3. Michaelf7777777/cubemine - 1) R. Bochini 2) G. Bulgarelli 3. R. Benetti 4) Germano (POR) 5) R. Gordillo 6) D. Bertoni 7) I. Casillas 8) M. Fazlagic
4. Šjor Bepo/Pat_Mustard - 1) N. Liedholm 2) *O. Blokhin 3) E. Francescoli 4) A. Benarrivo 5) K. De Bruyne 6) Maicon 7) J. Terry 8) J. Mascherano
5. EAP/Indy/OneNil - 1) *U. Seeler 2) W. Sagnol 3) *B. Lizarazu 4) D. Blanchflower 5) L. Brady 6) G. Popescu 7) *Kaka 8. ^R Neves
6. Jim Beam/Invictus - 1) *H. Stoichkov 2) F. Albert 3) *J. Bozsik 4) D. Villa 5) M. Silva 6) A. Amaro 7) O. Kahn 8) G. Buchwald
7. Don Alfredo - 1) *P. Nedved 2) C. Vieri 3) J. Heynckes 4) P. Evra 5) V. van Dijk 6) ^M. De Ligt 7) C. Gamarra 8) Jorginho
8. P-Nut0712/Arbitrium - 1) Neymar 2) ^J. Kimmich 3) J. Veron 4) *K-H Schnellinger 5) C. Puyol 6) N. Stiles 7) *A. Shesternyov 8) *G. Batistuta
9. Moby - 1) *Jairzinho 2) *Rivelino 3) *B. Schuster 4) ^L. Hernandez 5) R. Bratseth 6) S. Lerby 7) M. Essien 8) P. Rossi
10. green_smiley -1) K. Keegan 2) A. Simonsen 3) F. Ribery 4) H-G Schwarzenbeck 5) *E. Gerets 6) H. Blankenburg 7) *H-P Briegel 8) V. Jugovic
11. Gio - 1) *F. Gento 2) D. Savicevic 3) H. Sanchez 4) W. Schulz 5) B. Bremner 6) *G. Rivera 7) R. Rosato 8) R. Dzodzuashvili
12. Physiocrat - 1) *T. Finney 2) J. Barnes 3) M. Olsen 4) *W. Overath 5. M. Tassotti 6. H. Crespo 7) E. Hughes 8) F. Collovati
13. MJJ - 1) N. Kante 2) P. Pogba 3) W. Rooney 4) *Marcelo 5) K. Mbappe 6) O .Bergmark 7) ^M. Skriniar 8) K. Samson
14. Ecstatic - 1) *J. Greaves 2) *D. Beckham 3) *R. Giggs 4) *P. Vieira 5) K. Dalglish 6) D. Mackay 7) J. Armfield 8) J. Popluhár
15. Skizzo - 1) E. Cantona 2) A. Shearer 3) A. Hansen 4) D. Irwin 5) R. Donadoni 6) T. Adams 7) P. Shilton 8) P. Cocu
16. Himannv/2mufc0 - 1) *R. Kopa 2) A. Costacurta 3) E. Hazard 4) S. Aguero 5) S. Effenberg 6) G. Bale 7) *M. Amoros 8) G. Zambrotta
@GodShaveTheQueen picks
Azpilicueta
Hidegkuti (https://footballia.net/players/nandor-hidegkuti)
@Brwned
Azpilicueta
Hidegkuti (https://footballia.net/players/nandor-hidegkuti)
@Brwned