Sneijder to Galatasaray?

simonhch said:
Where on earth would we play him though? He's not really a midfielder is he?
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I'd asked an Ajax fan around that time whether he thought Sneijder could fit into our fairly rigid setup in a deeper role and he basically said that coming through the youth teams of Ajax meant you were developed with the total football philosophy so midfielders could pretty much play in any midfield position, and Sneijder did so throughout his Ajax career with him initially starting off in a left-central role like we've seen Anderson and Cleverley play in the diamond this year, at one point he played as a deep-lying playmaker and then he finally came into his own in that advanced role.

Even after Ajax we saw him play off the wing at Madrid, and we've seen him play in a deeper role just last year for Inter. I was actually watching that Argentina-Holland game the other week (just to remind myself of how much Messi's changed) and I forgot he played in the deeper central midfield role then. Now there's no doubt in my mind that his best position is that attacking midfield role but I think he'll have to adapt like Scholesy did anyway at some point and drop deeper into midfield and with his range of passing it shouldn't be any issue on the ball. He'll have to put in a bit more of a shift but he is capable of it. And with that diamond he can happily play in any of the three slightly more advanced roles.
 
Hasn't he said though that he doesn't like playing that sort of role?
 
Lawman said:
Fergie has a tendency to go back for players he likes and if everything we read and heard about the interest then wouldn't be a massive surprise. Do I want non plussed but I would get excited if he signed.
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Maybe but I can't see it, but like you said not gonna complain if it did, although a more traditional central midfielder would be nice.
 
Brwned said:
I'd asked an Ajax fan around that time whether he thought Sneijder could fit into our fairly rigid setup in a deeper role and he basically said that coming through the youth teams of Ajax meant you were developed with the total football philosophy so midfielders could pretty much play in any midfield position, and Sneijder did so throughout his Ajax career with him initially starting off in a left-central role like we've seen Anderson and Cleverley play in the diamond this year, at one point he played as a deep-lying playmaker and then he finally came into his own in that advanced role.

Even after Ajax we saw him play off the wing at Madrid, and we've seen him play in a deeper role just last year for Inter. I was actually watching that Argentina-Holland game the other week (just to remind myself of how much Messi's changed) and I forgot he played in the deeper central midfield role then. Now there's no doubt in my mind that his best position is that attacking midfield role but I think he'll have to adapt like Scholesy did anyway at some point and drop deeper into midfield and with his range of passing it shouldn't be any issue on the ball. He'll have to put in a bit more of a shift but he is capable of it. And with that diamond he can happily play in any of the three slightly more advanced roles.
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I think at this stage of this career, i'm not sure he'll be willing to put a shift in. Scholes puts in more effort defensively at his age than wes does.

If he was to succeed in a 'deeper' position in premiership he would have to have all action runners who can stick a boot in IMO like how macrhisio and vidal support pirlo's coasting.

Playing a deeper role/in a midfield 2 in al eague not in England is not proof that he can do it in England.

I want him just for the quality he would provide in europe
 
What kind of fee do people think Inter will accept for him?

They seem desperate to get him off the books at his current wage level
 
VoetbalWizard said:
offer zero and see how desperate they really are.

honestly though I have no clue. I would imagine 10 million euro max.
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He's obviously not seen as an integral part of their team if they can refuse to play him until he reduces his wages, but I can't see them letting him go for less than 18 million euros.

If he refuses to re-sign and demands a move to United it could be a great scenario for us.. although I suspect City will get involved just to try and drive up the fee and wages- which is the other stumbling block.. he obviously won't be happy to see a massive reduction in his wages
 
Drainy said:
He's obviously not seen as an integral part of their team if they can refuse to play him until he reduces his wages, but I can't see them letting him go for less than 18 million euros.

If he refuses to re-sign and demands a move to United it could be a great scenario for us.. although I suspect City will get involved just to try and drive up the fee and wages- which is the other stumbling block.. he obviously won't be happy to see a massive reduction in his wages
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Same could be said as Nani.. I'm issues aside they would start.
 
Ash_G said:
Maybe but I can't see it, but like you said not gonna complain if it did, although a more traditional central midfielder would be nice.
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With you on that one Ash. But the quality from another source that is deeper other than Rooney is a nice prospect to have. Imagine the supply to our front 2-3 wow Hernandez would become a machine. Plus RVP would get some great balls through.
 
The Don said:
Sneijder, on his worst day, would probably still be an improvement on some of our performances this season. The man's passing an vision is up there with a younger Scholes.
I'd still take him, in a heartbeat.
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I think with the way Rooney is playing this season, there is no need for Sneijder especially when you also have someone like Kagawa who can only improve. I just cannot see how bringing Sneijder in will improve us. Our poor performances this season have been down to our defense and the midfields inability to control the tempo of the game. Sneijder, I dont think is the player who can bring that aspect in our team. I think we need someone in the style Sergio Burquets and right now and since no one like that is available we should persist with what we have until someone comes up.
 
I say no to this madness.

It's worth giving Cleverley a fair shot. Kagawa isn't such a terrible footballer either. Powell, though still very young, looks extremely promising. Rooney, when called to duty, actually puts in a very effective shift as a central (attacking) midfielder. At times, his play is mesmerizing even when far away from the opposing penalty box.

Wesley has the tools, but he would come at a huge cost to the club, literally, and in terms of the chemistry Fergie is building.

As many others have already eloquently made the argument, the kind of midfielder we need is the box-to-box kind. It was never meant to me, but I would have loved to have Javi Martinez on the squad. The Spaniard is a beast, but with soft feet on the ball too. Had we done Martinez and assuming the likes of Nani could have regained their form, I'd feel pretty good about chances of taking down Barcelona and Real. I don't see us patching the right hole were we to bring in Sneijder, at least not now.
 
If we were signing him to play as part of a diamond I suppose it could work, but I couldn't even see a position in the team for him if we're sticking to 4-4-2 with wingers - he's not going to be a major improvement on what we've got playing in a midfield 2, nor is he going to be a major improvement on Rooney playing off the striker.

That said, if you play him in the hole off of Rooney and van Persie with Carrick and two of Cleverley/Anderson/Kagawa behind him it could be devastating. I'd love to see us switch to a tactic like that even with the current personnel, bringing Sneijder in as well would make it even better, unfortunately I don't think it's all that likely, and Sneijder being worth it would, for me, be contingent on such a switch. That's assuming he can stay fit.
 
Ash_G said:
Hasn't he said though that he doesn't like playing that sort of role?
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Yep, but that was when he was on top of the world. That's why it would've been a terrible idea for us to splash out £30m_ and £200k on him at the time - Inter were the ones who had to deal with him while he was full of himself and didn't want to take orders. In fairness he said that while he was under Benitez anyway who is notoriously strict in how he wants his players to play and is an utter feckwit who tends to bring out those kinds of outbursts from his star players (Gerrard anyone?).

I think Sir Alex would be a lot more convincing because a) he'll be able to point to people like Scholes and show how that revitalised his career even though he initially didn't like the idea of dropping deeper and b) he'll give him a lot more freedom to play his own game anyway. Rooney in his early years said he didn't like the idea of playing as a #9 and having to do all that selfless, thankless work up against two bruisers kicking lumps out of him all day, but only a couple of years ago he said he began to relish the role. Van Persie said something similar about when Wenger first told him he wanted to try him out further up the pitch. You need the personality and stature of someone like Wenger or Sir Alex to get these key players to make such significant changes to their game.
 
Brwned said:
I'd asked an Ajax fan around that time whether he thought Sneijder could fit into our fairly rigid setup in a deeper role and he basically said that coming through the youth teams of Ajax meant you were developed with the total football philosophy so midfielders could pretty much play in any midfield position, and Sneijder did so throughout his Ajax career with him initially starting off in a left-central role like we've seen Anderson and Cleverley play in the diamond this year, at one point he played as a deep-lying playmaker and then he finally came into his own in that advanced role.

Even after Ajax we saw him play off the wing at Madrid, and we've seen him play in a deeper role just last year for Inter. I was actually watching that Argentina-Holland game the other week (just to remind myself of how much Messi's changed) and I forgot he played in the deeper central midfield role then. Now there's no doubt in my mind that his best position is that attacking midfield role but I think he'll have to adapt like Scholesy did anyway at some point and drop deeper into midfield and with his range of passing it shouldn't be any issue on the ball. He'll have to put in a bit more of a shift but he is capable of it. And with that diamond he can happily play in any of the three slightly more advanced roles.
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Thanks. Good response.

I suppose he would be a considerable improvement over Young on the left.
 
De Gea
Rafael - Smalling - Vidic - Evra
Carrick
Cleverley - Sneijder
Kagawa

Rooney - RvP

De Gea
Rafael - Smalling - Vidic - Evra
Sneijder - Carrick
Valencia - Rooney - Kagawa
RvP

De Gea
Rafael - Smalling - Vidic - Evra
Cleverley - Carrick
Valencia - Sneijder - Rooney
RvP

De Gea
Rafael - Smalling - Vidic - Evra
Sneijder - Carrick - Anderson
Nani - RvP - Rooney
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Formations are fun! Yay!!

But seriously, couldn't say no to Sneijder.
 
Was probably the only player who looked anywhere near quality for Holland over the summer.

Some of his passes/ crosses and link up play was outstanding
 
Rowem said:
De Gea
Rafael - Smalling - Vidic - Evra
Carrick
Cleverley - Sneijder
Kagawa

Rooney - RvP

De Gea
Rafael - Smalling - Vidic - Evra
Sneijder - Carrick
Valencia - Rooney - Kagawa
RvP

De Gea
Rafael - Smalling - Vidic - Evra
Cleverley - Carrick
Valencia - Sneijder - Rooney
RvP

De Gea
Rafael - Smalling - Vidic - Evra
Sneijder - Carrick - Anderson
Nani - RvP - Rooney
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Formations are fun! Yay!!

But seriously, couldn't say no to Sneijder.
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I want that one.
 
Sneijder to United could make sense considering that this might be Giggs' and Scholes' final season. He is 28 right now, and still has 4 years left in him in spite of what his form suggests. Also, with Scholes' and Giggs' departure, we will be losing a lot of experience in the squad and knowing Fergie, he might want to infuse that experience through Sneijder.
 
coolredwine said:
Sneijder to United could make sense considering that this might be Giggs' and Scholes' final season. He is 28 right now, and still has 4 years left in him in spite of what his form suggests. Also, with Scholes' and Giggs' departure, we will be losing a lot of experience in the squad and knowing Fergie, he might want to infuse that experience through Sneijder.
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He might still have 10 years left in him if he is going to play for us.
 
RedRonaldo said:
He might still have 10 years left in him if he is going to play for us.
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:lol:
Would be a good signing for a good price if we get him around £10m but a box to box or defensive midfield player is also needed 1st imo
 
If we could get him for around £10-15m, would be worth a punt.
 
If we get him and Strootman, team them with RVP and make Buttner first choice - Nike will make our next kit orange.
 
Yep, every bit as good as Arteta eh Chief?
 
If it's around the £10m mark, then I'd definitely take him. Quality player, still a good few years left in him and his technical ability is sublime.

If it's true that he and RVP don't meet eye to eye though, then I'll give it a miss.
 
Hernandez - BFA said:
If it's around the £10m mark, then I'd definitely take him. Quality player, still a good few years left in him and his technical ability is sublime.

If it's true that he and RVP don't meet eye to eye though, then I'll give it a miss.
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players are professionals. cole and sheringham hated each other and that worked out ok for us
 
Just when You thought it's definitely over, the mega transfer saga returns like new Star Wars movies.

Freakin amazing if we'll really sign the guy. Almost amazing as signing that one guy from Arsenal. heheh.
 
For something like 10-15m he'd be a wonderful signing. He's still got the technique and quality and a change of surroundings would help him. Sneijder RvP Rooney linking up :drool:
 
Sneijder is still class...for £10-15m is a punt worthwhile taking.

His passing, shooting and free kicks is certainly world class.
 
Where is the evidence for this speculation?

I think he's brilliant, but I don't see it.
 
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