Blinkered view and allowing players to live off past glories, never a wise move. He's getting on, his performances in the attacking third just simply aren't whats required from a team wanting to win the league. Love him to prove me wrong, but he's been lacking when it matters for ages now.
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Blinkered view and allowing players to live off past glories, never a wise move. He's getting on, his performances in the attacking third just simply aren't whats required from a team wanting to win the league. Love him to prove me wrong, but he's been lacking when it matters for ages now.
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If you honestly think we can't do better than Valencia, I'm beyond baffled. His crossing and overall attacking play is so much worse than it used to be. Times just caught up with him and we should be looking to do better.
Well I guess Mourinho is also an unwise fool and who also can't spot your insight. Guess we wont win the league then. Damn. May as well go home.
I have no issues with Valencia whatsoever and belive he is performing his role with distinction.
All for getting behind the team, and trusting the manager, but when people on here refuse to call a spade a spade I just wonder what I'm doing here. Baffling stuff. Anyone who watched todays game could see exactly what I, and others are talking about.
Or maybe you should watch a rightback who isn't Valencia.
Those stats are certainly not damming for Valencia. He comes out pretty good there. Anyway, none of those were realistically available anyway (Dani Alves obvisouly didn't want to come to Manchester anyway) and we are not going to pay 50 million for Walker (who isn't an upgrade).
Since when was a fullback judged on shots? Show us some defensive stats, he'll have respectable scores there as well.
Also bear in mind, we finished 6th last season, the other 4 players were in teams which finished 1st or 2nd.
It's not even that he's a bad player. He's a competent defensive fullback, but that is the extent of his talents now. He's limited going forward and his off the ball movement is extremely sub-par.
Players of his ability aren't hard to find. We just need someone who is also a good attacker, which is more difficult.
Players of his ability aren't hard to find. We just need someone who is also a good attacker, which is more difficult.
Or maybe you should watch a rightback who isn't Valencia.
Alaba isn't a rightback.
I think you need to look at what I was replying to. I never said we could/should buy those, but those are elite rigthbacks sam was reffering to. And the difference between them and Valencia is they do all the defensive stuff AND get involved in the play in dangerous areas.
He played a significant number of games there last season for BM which is the only reason I included him. His stats are skewed by games in midfield though.
Valencia gets involved, he just doesn't deliver what's required. He's probably the most predictable aspect of our entire team, you always know what he's going to do.
Although I would say Valencia isn't as good as the other fullbacks offensively, the stats you provided don't conclusively show that.
Or maybe you should watch a rightback who isn't Valencia.
Those are interesting - I never said he was the very very best in the world and if some of those were serious incoming options, they would be worth pursuing.
But I don't think Right Back is a 'problem position' for us at all and doesn't really require upgrading right now. Maybe next season or in 18 months, for now, I'd rather we reward loyalty and experience and am glad Mourinho seems to agree.
They show is attacking output seriously lags behind his rivals. Doesn't make him a terrible player or anything that will cost us the title, but it's one of the first areas we should be looking to improve on.
Significant number of games as a left back, right?
No, at rightback.
He's not played there for BM - only as a CB or LB. When Lahm wasn't available, Kimmich was the one who played at RB.
I disagree, but feel free to put your favourite rightback in instead.
I haven't seen it myself but transfermakt has three games in his entire career at rightback. I watch Bayern often and missed two of thoss games.
It's about keeping an eye out for the future. Fullback position is fitness demanding. Consider his age, it's a thin line to walk. Seeing how the price of good full back who ain't exactly world class this past couple seasons, it's a good idea to pick up one when they become available than wait when everyone know we're desperate and get price bullied.
Okay.
@2ndTouch @Balu @Cristiano Lell @GhastlyHun @OutlawGER @schwalbe @strongwalker did Alaba play a significant number of games at RB for you last season?
LB, and very few games at central defense.
Yeah, we missed the trick with aurier. Quality right back going for a bargain price. At left back we will be playing Darmian/Blind for most of the season and if Valencia gets injured somehow then we will only have Darmian as a backup who shats himself after crossing the half way line.
We need to get some modern fullbacks in. We have only Shaw from that category, and his fitness is still questionable.
Personally am happy to wait another 12 months
I can't argue with that since it's personal opinion. Just point out a perspective in the last post.
Personally I do rate his potential and if we really want him, I don't object. In this case, we seem to have something in mind perhaps? I do see we need a back up for Valencia style for style since he is vital for providing width for the right wing. Our back up is no where close the fulfil that stats. They're only adequate for filling in different tactic as RB. Unless some surprise like Lindelof or Axel step in and become more than what is known of them.
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No. Rafinha was the back-up rightback when Lahm was unavailable or in midfield. Now it's Kimmich and Rafinha who share the playing time at rightback.
I don't think Alaba has ever played one single game at right back tbh
So sad to see Spurs become a chequebook club
Not really our players sales make up most of the fees we will pay.
I know, I wasn't keen on the signing at first due to his "problems" but if his appeal went through we can't really question him on that. Not keen on his social media antics but I'm support him until he fouls up with us. Will definitely Big some needed speed and a different option to Trippier. Still think we need 2 more signings and it seems they are in the pipeline.
I so hope we sneak in on this at the 11th hour. Rightback might not be a priority this season but is likely to be one next season. 23m is nothing for a player of his quality and is well worth the risk, even signing him now and loaning to him to another PL team, so next season he will be fully adapted.
I am amazed Spurs just seem to have a clear run at a player of his ability for so cheap
I am amazed Spurs just seem to have a clear run at a player of his ability for so cheap
Wouldn't shock me if we hijacked it once Tottenham have painstakingly sorted the visa issues.
Turns out Paris United know feck all as expected. They're backtracked on this. Di Mazio right again
Yep they're just a mouthpiece for their agents. Not worth listening to whatsoever.
Literally no one is going to do that. I wouldn't want this guy as much as I wouldn't want Suarez to play for us and I consider Suarez to be the best striker in the world.
There's a difference between recognizing someone's talent and being incapable of supporting that player due to his actions.
We will soon need a rb when Valencia is not capable or fit. We can't let both him and fabinho go to other clubs.
Mourinho must do a willian hijack on either of those teams.
Mourinho must do a willian hijack on either of those teams.
Since when has a right back been judged by Total Shots, Key Passes etc. Totally ridiculous.Or maybe you should watch a rightback who isn't Valencia.
Spurs, Madrid, Bayern and Juve had a more settled team than us. A right back needs the help of his team to attack, our team wasn't better than any of the teams in the above mentioned stat last season.
Also as Bayern posters have said, Alaba didn't even played at RB.
How'd we let this nutter go to Spurs?
Were missing a trick here.
I'm not at all surprised. Paris United sounds like a cowboy account.
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