Ivory Coast have made him the Captain of their NT. I wonder if that's a ploy by them to help him in his case..
Serge Aurier | Spurs player
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What's your point? That it happens or that it's acceptable?
It is not acceptable at all. Im just saying it happens alot and perhaps we shouldnt be judging Aurier based off those comments alone
I play in Toronto, Canada. Calling someone gay on the field would be the quickest way to get banned. Toronto FC held it's first pride night just over a month ago. You should find a new league.
When Aurier says "fiotte" about Blanc, he did want to mean " He isn't a Man". Nothing to do with homophobia
The French gay lobby likes to develop scandals in order to promote their sexual preferences.
The French gay lobby likes to develop scandals in order to promote their sexual preferences.
I don't know how to reply to this without offending you, but I really miss the days people had thicker skin.
Sure maybe in a coed rec league you'd get banned for that.
Thanks for your concern but Im ok with the league Im in.
You seem very thin skinned.
That doesn't compute. It's not acceptable, but it is for Aurier? He wasn't playing football at the time, which was your original argument of acceptability. He was on his off time, no pressures on him but we shouldn't judge him for doing something you deem unacceptable? Sorry that doesn't fly with me.
Being against homophobia is thin skinned? Right I finally see where you stand here.
Took the words right out of my mouth
can't wait for aurier to bust case and link up with the mandem, get me
Im against homophobia as well, but feel free to think whatever your little heart wants to.
Yes.
Do you speak French?
False. Any source?
Wise man
Go on, I have no problem with debating if you make valid points. You won't hurt my feelings I promise.
You interpret him making a comment as "him being against homosexuality". That's not what he said. I am not against homosexuality but that doesn't mean I literally hate every person who's ever said something not-politically-correct. It's insane to me how people see everything as black and white when there is so much more to what people say. He never even insinuated homosexuality was bad in his comments, he simply said he was acting like he was in a homosexual relationship with someone. YOU'RE the one who interpreted it as it being bad, not Aurier.
Yes.
Do you speak French?
False. Any source?
Wise man
I was wrong about that one, he didnt call anyone on the pitch gay, it was in an Q&A style interview. Doesnt make it better or worse, I just think he deserves another chance and shouldnt be judged on that alone
Why would he not be allowed work in the uk?
Whats all the panic about?
Whats all the panic about?
A minute ago you said this stuff was unacceptable, now you're saying it's over-sensitive to object to it. Which is it?
That's homophobic slur, people can take it as they want but that's homophobic and that's not something that you say casually either. You can call someone an "enculé" without the homophobic sense but it doesn't really apply to what Aurier said.
Didnt get catch a lot of crap for it already? All im saying is that Im not going to use it as a stick to beat him with forever.
Thanks mate
The arguments defending Aurier are just weak and getting into minute details of what he could have meant. He said Blanc "isn't a man". Well then what exactly is he?
He probably meant he wasn't man enough to defend him from the evil Zlatan?
Ah yes 'une fiotte'. I understand completely. No doubt marginalises all our homosexual fans and also does nothing to help homosexual players in terms of their confidence in being themselves. Generally it seems that footballers can use derogatory phrases with minimal punishment. I do get it though. If I was a minority group and someone who I ought to idolise/support made derogatory comments that affected me I'd be pissed, because it gives you an incite into what they feel about people in that group. Disdain. Its a weird signing if true.
Those days also come with a lot more ignorance and overt discrimination.
If that's the worst thing he said and if indeed his only intention was to convey his view that Blanc "isn't man enough to stand up to Zlatan", I wouldn't have a problem with it. But you and I both know that it's unlikely to be just that.
If that's literally what he said, then how on earth is it homophobic? If anything it would be sexist but that's just a common term to say when someone is being a coward. I have 0 issues with that and if you do, no point in discussing anything since you're offended by anything.
I think the main meaning of "Fiotte" is "effeminate/girly man".
Given the context and the social background of Aurier, a "Man" is certainly somebody like Kaaris, a rapper he likes
I don't like rap. Just to provide with some context.
"Overt discrimination". Yup, I've heard it all. Next thing we know people will be offended because the sky is blue.
"Fiotte" does indeed mean "coward" but I think Aurier used the word "tarlouze" which is much more homophobic than "fiotte" which isn't at all tbh.
It appears he called him a faggot which is clearly derogatory to all gay people. Like calling someone a P*** or a n*****. stating someone is south asian or black is not an offence by themselves but.......you know where I am going with this.
EDIT: maybe the French can help me with translations
Well it's been stated numerous times that's not what the saying means, but even if it was, calling someone that doesn't make you homophobic. Name calling is bad but it does not mean you are inherently against homosexuality. If you've never said/experienced worse by someone (friend or family) and you truly think words like that deserve punishment then okay, we disagree.
Thanks for the reply
It's not what he said as clarified by the caf's French speakers. It was something that was suggested by someone else, hence I put it in quotation. The only thing that offends me is how people are constantly telling me I am offended when all I am trying to do is stand up for my beliefs.
So you're offended that people are challenging your beliefs? My original point stands about you being thin skinned then.
Last time he tried to enter the country he was barred from entry because of his assault on a police officer.
No, challenge it but don't keep telling me that I am offended, when nothing that you or any poster has so far said that would offend me.
In the periscope video, Aurier said that Sirigu is gay( probably meaning he isn't good), Blanc is a "fiotte", "he deepthroats Zlatan". People can interpret it like they want but there is imo a clear homophobic undertone. And no he doesn't mean girly man, he equates homosexuality to weakness and inferiority.
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