Ooft. Looks painful
Semi-finals | Spain vs France | Netherlands vs England
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Agree wholeheartedly -- negative tactics killed Portugal's chances in that game. They would have put France to the sword if they had been slightly more positive.
Having watched all games featuring Spain this tournament their game against Germany was definitely their worst and on another day Germany would have gone through, yes. At face value Germany deserved to win. But the elephant in the room about that game, though, is how Kroos managed to stay on the pitch for the entire 120 minutes despite committing cynical foul after cynical foul.
It's one thing that I find impressive in Gymnastics and Swimming, there is often some 16 years old at the World Cups or Olympics.
Henry is very likely given that he's managing their Olympics side right now -- I do feel that it's an audition role for him. Zidane is actually even more ideal but what the feck is going on with him and being a football manager?
Happy Spain won it, can’t really imagine how fecking atrocious a France - England final would‘ve been.
Fairly impressive being that negative when you have a squad like that..
Fairly impressive being that negative when you have a squad like that..
Waiting for Ancelotti to feck off from Madrid probably
Completely disrespectful comment. Greece didn't have a lucky and easy draw on their way to the final, and they were only outplayed by Czechia in the knock-out games. They were better than Portugal both in the premiere and the final, and they were better than France in the quarter finals, even got unlucky not to score more. And most importantly, they played with passion and resilience, something that this England team has not shown at all.
I couldn't watch the match
but I saw the goals and the first thing I thought when Yamal scored was "see, I told @Fortitude Shaw needs to show him down the line!" 
. Although I think it was Rabiot, who got done by a very classy feint but it was a bit too easy for me. I'm probably being very harsh and it's just a Robben scenario where you know what is going to happen but can't stop it.To be fair I was specifically talking about 1 vs 1s in the channel, where I think it's possible to reduce his influence. However, that's if you can isolate him there, which is a big ask as Spain moved the ball around beautifully so he's able to interplay more and find those pocket of spaces much easier. If and that's a big IF he's up against Shaw, those scenarios may happen more because there is no way England aren't camping in the box and be as open/willing to attack as France.
The kid is the real deal.
Just saw there were CL Qualifiers on today and more on tomorrow too.
So at least there's an alternative to watching England. Think I'll watch Klaksvik vs FC Differdange.
So at least there's an alternative to watching England. Think I'll watch Klaksvik vs FC Differdange.
Good point on the draws they were given. Greece were absolutely shite though, no rewriting history either. They had massive luck to win that tournament. Anti football, Sam Allardyce dream they were. Czech Republic were robbed.
Does Pogba's bad include international football?
If not, bring him back!
If not, bring him back!
A german journalist has asked him about that and he has said "It is currently really painful...i don't know if i'm fit for the final".
That is really a crazy injury
That lad has been great. Who’s he play for?
He plays for Spain
Red bull Leipzig isn’t it?
Very good player but a number 8, which is a position we are well stocked, with Bruno, Mount, Mainoo and McTominay. You could argue Olmo would bring more quality, and I wouldn't disagree, but I believe we should be prioritising other positions first.
Kostadinov
Ah well looking at Spain it really doesn't matter who wins tomorrow night because they are different level
Good riddance to the French. Horrible bunch and footballing justice has prevailed. Delighted they couldn’t just speed and power their way to the title.
The only thing that is absolutely shite is your memory.
Greece were absolutely enjoyable to watch in Euro 2004, Southgate's England makes even United's current football appealing.
Aymeric Laporte must be feeling really smug right now.
Uh, No. Greece were utter shite anti football and horrible to watch.
Spain has always been one of the better teams in the world for the past 10 years or so even after their world cup triumph.
Their failures to win were mostly down to errors from a few players (De Gea etc) or losing via penalty shootout. So it's not a surprise they are doing very well now.
And let's be honest. Spain have many top players who deserve more recognition.
Their failures to win were mostly down to errors from a few players (De Gea etc) or losing via penalty shootout. So it's not a surprise they are doing very well now.
And let's be honest. Spain have many top players who deserve more recognition.
Yeah, thats how i remember it. The underdog that absolutely everyone wanted to lose.
Greece's win was fantastic for football and all respect to them but, yeah, it really was not pretty to watch from what I recall. A smaller nation using whatever is in their means to progress is fine in my opinion, even if it means parking the bus, but what Portugal, England and France have done in this tournament isn't really all that admirable given the wealth of phenomenal attacking players they have.
It was during the Joga Bonito era as well
If England play like they've done for most of this tournament I can see a repeat of the 2012 final, an absolute pasting.
Its not coming home/Het komt niet thuis?
Are you sure United's current football is more appealing?
Nonsense. Football fans all over were rooting for the fairytale aspect of Greece going all the way but on the pitch they were unanimously deemed an eyesore. The Czech Republic were comfortably the best side that tournament.
ffs are you joking or half joking?
Put on the sound from BBC and watch the game on NOS.nl with a VPN.
He left that job not once but twice already. He doesn’t seem like the type who is overly bothered about coaching in the first place.
It was fantastic for them and I think most people don’t begrudge them the success given their status, but for football it was a loss. Between the Greeks and the Italians win in 04/06 plus the success of defensive coaches like Benitez and Mourinho at club level, that stretch in the mid 2000s was an eyesore to watch as it encouraged a lot of teams both at international and domestic level to adopt ultra defensive, parking the bus tactics.
And after weeks of "Spain play the best football", "France arw unwatchable" "France is just defence and talent, no team" "Spain plays attacking football and want to beat you with their play"
Spain proceeds to beat France with two "talent go brr" moments and defence
Spain proceeds to beat France with two "talent go brr" moments and defence
Not true at all.
Greece fought Portugal at Portugal's home ground in the grand final. There was quite a number of supporters for the underdog.
I don't think Greece was boring. The Greeks players were big and strong and they used their physicality to their advantage. They won every match in the knock out stages and did not rely on penalty shootouts to win. They were like Italy in their approach: more defensive but will also attack. They beat France with Zidane and Henry.
Given that Italy also won Euro 2020 and they rely on penalty shootouts to win, I think Greece is more deserving of their triumph and more fun to watch than Italy.
Deserved by Spain, they look class even though they put on a defensive in the 2nd half. France was attrocious throghout the tournament and thank God they're out.
Shame Martinez didnt have the guts to drop Ronaldo cause Portugal instead of France would have been a whole other game.
Shame Martinez didnt have the guts to drop Ronaldo cause Portugal instead of France would have been a whole other game.
Were they fck, as an underdog story it was great. On the football side, it was awful.
Hopefully Bellingham has saved his best for the last two games. With Brazil already out of the Copa America, there's a fair chance if England win this then he will be the Ballon D'Or winner