28 next season we need to cash in as soon as possible. He is not going to be what we need and the difference between having to play him instead of Casemiro is shocking
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I can see him transitioning into a CB for a PL relegation battler or Championship side down the line, if the Newcastle move doesn’t materialize. He treats the ball like hot potatoes and wants rid of it as quickly as possible, or doesn’t even show for it most of the time. That’s fine if you don’t even attempt to play football like the barcodes, or just want to sit deep in your own box, but it’s calamitous in a team with any real ambition.
The turnover that lead to the 3rd goal was a classic example, McTominay got the ball in midfield, ran up a few yards and panicked when Arsenal players start closing him down, made a hospital pass that didn’t get past the 1st man and voila, the ball is now heading into our own half. AWB was the main culprit for that goal but if McTominay had been a little more savvy, at the very least hold on to the ball and draw a foul, the entire thing might not have happened. Instances like that build up through out the game and disrupt any attempt at prolonged pressure on the opponent, and instead invite pressure, unnecessary one at that.
The turnover that lead to the 3rd goal was a classic example, McTominay got the ball in midfield, ran up a few yards and panicked when Arsenal players start closing him down, made a hospital pass that didn’t get past the 1st man and voila, the ball is now heading into our own half. AWB was the main culprit for that goal but if McTominay had been a little more savvy, at the very least hold on to the ball and draw a foul, the entire thing might not have happened. Instances like that build up through out the game and disrupt any attempt at prolonged pressure on the opponent, and instead invite pressure, unnecessary one at that.
I can't stand him.
Abysmal footballer.
Abysmal footballer.
Mctomminay is like the Scottish version of Pogba. Not in the way of talent (not even close) but rather having no defined position. His poor awareness was a factor in the final goal. Three distinct occasions in that one passage of play he fails to cut the passing lines. He then jogs for recovery and is so busy ball watching he doesn't cut the angles out and while being lazy jogging back.
He doesn't read the game well enough to be a 6. He's not got enough quality on the ball to be an 8 (DLP or a box to box). He lacks the quality to excel.
Newcastle is a good move for him considering the quality of their team and the way they play (gritty nothing flashy but effective). Make no mistake about it the two areas that are just as crucial for investment as a centre forward are Fred / Mctomminay. I've also seen far too many games away from panning on the camera direction where Scott has in the past made himself unavailable for the pass on countless occasions. Especially when Ole was in charge that is a sign for a player who's not at a competing United level.
His time at United should indefinitely be up. It's not the reflection that he's a bad player or useless but rather that the best Scott can offer is his influence under a manager like Ragnick / Solskjaer. He's a functioning Everton, Villa and Southampton level.
He doesn't read the game well enough to be a 6. He's not got enough quality on the ball to be an 8 (DLP or a box to box). He lacks the quality to excel.
Newcastle is a good move for him considering the quality of their team and the way they play (gritty nothing flashy but effective). Make no mistake about it the two areas that are just as crucial for investment as a centre forward are Fred / Mctomminay. I've also seen far too many games away from panning on the camera direction where Scott has in the past made himself unavailable for the pass on countless occasions. Especially when Ole was in charge that is a sign for a player who's not at a competing United level.
His time at United should indefinitely be up. It's not the reflection that he's a bad player or useless but rather that the best Scott can offer is his influence under a manager like Ragnick / Solskjaer. He's a functioning Everton, Villa and Southampton level.
No they were better players, it’s laughable to compare him to Butt or Fletcher as a midfielder. Johnsen was a much better player whose career was blighted by injury. Park was an excellent team player who ran himself into the ground (not a ball watcher like Mctominay) and O’Shea was very versatile and dependable.
Mctominay has no right to be mentioned alongside those players. Cleverley, Gibson are his peers.
He is lower PL b2b midfielder. He will never be a decent anchor man or a ball winning one because he lacks awareness. We have to sell him this summer. He is in low wages, so I guess it will be easy to attract some interest.
Nothing like revisionism and hindsight.
If we were winning leagues and trophies then the same would be said about McTominay
Funny thing is. I remember the exact same thing being said about the players mentioned
The point is simply that McTominay was given time to develop as he became a midfielder so late, and he is an academy product.
He has not developped. He wasn't good enough 4 seasons ago with the Jose pity trophy and he's not good enough. Not his fault really, but United need to move on, and fast.
He has not developped. He wasn't good enough 4 seasons ago with the Jose pity trophy and he's not good enough. Not his fault really, but United need to move on, and fast.
It's frustrating that managers keep playing him in that deeper midfield role, but today was only down to Casemiro's suspension. He reminds me of Fellaini in a way, his best role was clearly further forward and I think it is the same for McTominay. Anyway, he is another player who has a career outside of Old Trafford - just need to allow Ten Hag time to continue building the squad that we are not reliant on McTominay playing in important games.
Hes been a midfielder his whole fecking life, how earlier could you get?
Not really, was a striker in the academy IIRC
The way the caf works, after we finally sell the guy, he will have a good game for his new club and his thread will be bumped with comments like “would have him back for depth”
Very much this. The first thing that should be taught to any Manchester United fringe player is that they are expected to be as good as Butt, Fletcher, Hohnsen, Park, O'Shea and Solskjaer were in their respective roles. Those guys are the benchmark.
Anyone who does not meet the criteria should not bother hoping for much at United.
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If we were a league-winning team, McTominay likely would not be a part of it.
Fletcher and Park were much better players than McTominay. I don't really remember the performances from Butt and Johnson. I did have a problem with O'Shea. I thought he was a pretty average/poor player. Similar to McTominay.
I do agree with your second sentence, though. I don't think McTominay is good enough to come in and do a job for us. In his prime, Fletcher was a starter and an excellent midfielder. Park was very, very good in big games and a great sub. McTominay isn't fit to lace their boots.
The guy plays centre midfield and consistently finishes games as one of the players with the least touches and passes of the ball. That is ridiculous for a Man United midfielder. Even when he got into a good position outside of their box, he failed basic passes to ruin our attack. It happened twice today. Horrible performance.
Keane taking him to task on the Saka goal was spot on. Sad thing is he does it all the time, just hides or drops back. Has great physical attributes but doesn’t know how to use them. He needs binning.
Sell him to Westham and bring in Rice instead. That will be a great upgrade to the 6 and 8 positions
Newcastle want him. It’s such an obvious decision to sell him and sign a short term replacement if need be. He doesn’t offer anything that can’t be easily achieved with another player. Why do I know that and not the club?
At least he did well for us at the start of the season.
They were better players who played a key role in better teams. They were intelligent, technically sound and worked their arses off, they could play in a number of positons. They didn't hide from the ball and didn't tackle with their hands first. Which is why they were kept as utility players.
McT has no redeeming features, even as a fringe player. Is there one aspect of his game that he's consistently shown to be useful?
Surely you see how this doesn't make sense?
If my grandmother had wheels, she would have been a bike.He's regressed, sell and bring in an academy product in his stead.
His start of the season form wasn't even good, what is this myth? He was shite then too in a bunch of the games and we were begging for a DM. Then when Cas signed he managed to string together a few games where he didn't make you want to pull your hair out.We were still begging for Cas to play though and when he did he looked instantly amazing compared to what we had been used to.
He is not a brave player with the right attitude who gives his all either. He hides from the ball as a central midfielder. That instantly disqualfiies him from all of those claims.
He is not a brave player with the right attitude who gives his all either. He hides from the ball as a central midfielder. That instantly disqualfiies him from all of those claims.
This guy needs to go or be transitioned to cb. He’s simply not skilled enough to play midfield for Manchester United.
He needs to be transitioned out of the club
Yes really, you remember incorrectly. He played about half a season for the u21s as a striker because they didn't have any. His first appearance as a striker came in a match alongside 8 defenders and a defensive midfielder. They had no striker in the squad so cycled through McTominay, Willock, and others in the striker role. His u21s debut was in midfield. His u19s debut was in midfield.
Here he is listed in midfield for the 14/15 u18s season. All teamsheets are included showing him in midfield for all of his u18s appearances.
http://youthhawk.co.uk/w/index.php/Manchester_United_Under-18s_2014-15
Here he is described as a small midfielder before his growth spurt.
http://youthhawk.co.uk/w/index.php/Scott_McTominay
The official site talks about him playing as a 10 in the u16s and a deeper role was viewed as his natural position.
https://www.manutd.com/en/players-and-staff/detail/scott-mctominay
McTominay described as slight midfielder from the u16s
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/miscellaneous-reserve-youth-news.367211/page-5#post-13732433
Listed as a midfielder on the scholar intake list
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/miscellaneous-reserve-youth-news.367211/page-6#post-13847773
There are also some posts on this forum of u14/15s lineups with him in midfield which I cba to try find.
He has never been a striker.
For being so far up his ass you'd think you'd at least know a little about him.
He's tall (Mourinh), British (Ole), and an academy lad who is on a relatively low salary (Board).
Very useful.
He plays CB for Scotland NT. And as above poster mentioned, he played as CF in youth team
And as I mentioned with countless links of proof just two posts above this, no he didn't.
He can't play CB, he doesn't read danger well. He could play a useful role for a team lower in the Prem, but it isn't this one. I'll be surprised if Newcastle buy him. And West Ham seem to have gone more foreign for value and upside.
Emery might improve him as a midfielder who can backup Luiz and Kamara. He seemed to get Capoue up a level and improve Parejo defensively.
Emery might improve him as a midfielder who can backup Luiz and Kamara. He seemed to get Capoue up a level and improve Parejo defensively.
he’s shite. It’s beggars belief that there are people who still rate him despite him doing a disappearing act in almost every game he plays.
How the feck did someone like him make it through the academy with such poor technique, low footballing iq and a general cowardness in playing.
How the feck did someone like him make it through the academy with such poor technique, low footballing iq and a general cowardness in playing.
McTominay is box to box and should play box to box not CB. But he's not Man United level of midfielder, he's Eveton or West Ham level of midfielder. It's not an insult because at least he's good enough to play for mid table PL teams.
He is not good enough and that’s not a slight on him. Very few are.
He did well to be a Manchester United player for so long. No bad feelings but hes cabbage.
He did pretty much nothing today... He was genuinely pretty good at the start of the season. But that form is completely gone. Guessing he'll be replaced in the summer, but i do think it's a tough ask to buy cover for a player who plays almost every minute.
He’s the sort of player you bring on when you are defending a lead but no the type you start from the get go
It would make a difference because we have absolutely no mf if we sell him and case gets injured. That's how thin our squad is right now. I am surprised we are not selling elanga and trying to buy a midfield cover.
The say that "'at least he is hard working" "at least he got Man Utd and has a fight" is the most absurd thing ever.
He hides from the ball all the time when our back 4 need a passing option
He slowly jogs back when our box is in danger.
He is anything but a hardworker or a warrior. He LACKS fight spirit. He just ACTS he got it (and fool some of our fans) with those nonsense shithouse tackles
Sell him please Glazers!
He hides from the ball all the time when our back 4 need a passing option
He slowly jogs back when our box is in danger.
He is anything but a hardworker or a warrior. He LACKS fight spirit. He just ACTS he got it (and fool some of our fans) with those nonsense shithouse tackles
Sell him please Glazers!
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