[SAFMUTD]

I get many in here are angry with him but it's not his fault. I feel sad for him because he always give his best, you can see the effort. He's not lazy, he runs his socks off he's a hard worker and you can genuinely see he cares about the club.

He doesn't have the quality though so he'll get exposed more often than not. It's unfair to ask him to perform on a level that he can't, he's not going to suddenly transform into a great player. This is his level, this is what you can get from him anything above is asking too much. So you know what to expect from him and should be criticized accordingly.

 

[JeffFromHK]

I get many in here are angry with him but it's not his fault. I feel sad for him because he always give his best, you can see the effort. He's not lazy, he runs his socks off he's a hard worker and you can genuinely see he cares about the club.

He doesn't have the quality though so he'll get exposed more often than not. It's unfair to ask him to perform on a level that he can't, he's not going to suddenly transform into a great player. This is his level, this is what you can get from him anything above is asking too much. So you know what to expect from him and should be criticized accordingly.

The say that "'at least he is hard working" "at least he got Man Utd and has a fight" is the most absurd thing ever.

He hides from the ball all the time when our back 4 need a passing option
He slowly jogs back when our box is in danger and just leave attackers unmarked all the time.

He could choose to sprint for 2 seconds but he chose not to to conserve his energy. His strides are always in that "relaxed" tone like Pogba or Matic or Berbatov with low frequency of steps, instead of those Park/Smith/Heinze/Tevez/Rooney/Martinez intensive tone He is NOT a hard worker.

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

It would make a difference because we have absolutely no mf if we sell him and case gets injured. That's how thin our squad is right now. I am surprised we are not selling elanga and trying to buy a midfield cover.

It wouldn't make any difference if Fred plays instead.

 

[AshRK]

It wouldn't make any difference if Fred plays instead.

We would still need morw bodies. Eriksen cannot play with Fred or Mctominay. So if say Casemiro or fred is injured we are fecked. The ideal situation would be to sell Mctominay and buy a replacement a better one but unfer this ownership we are not doing anything so we are stuck with him. We can't just offload him without buying anyone.

 

[SAFMUTD]

The say that "'at least he is hard working" "at least he got Man Utd and has a fight" is the most absurd thing ever.

He hides from the ball all the time when our back 4 need a passing option
He slowly jogs back when our box is in danger and just leave attackers unmarked all the time.

He could choose to sprint for 2 seconds but he chose not to to conserve his energy. His strides are always in that "relaxed" tone like Pogba or Matic or Berbatov with low frequency of steps, instead of those Park/Smith/Heinze/Tevez/Rooney/Martinez intensive tone He is NOT a hard worker.

He does run, I couldn't find any distance convered stats but I'm sure McTominay is between the top ones. His positioning is below average, his awareness is not great and he's not a particularly good marker.

He's a very similar player to Brandon Williams in the sense that you can see they have the fight in them but not the quality. They should be moved on, we need way better but when playing him it's unfair to ask him to play like Casemiro when he's clearly incapable of doing it.

Did anyone really expected a master class from him? He was obviously going to get dominated by Partey he's a very inferior player.

There's a Spanish refrain that says "No matter how nicely you ask, you won't get pears from an elm tree."

That's exactly what's happening with McTominay people are expecting him to be a great player when he's never been one in his entire career he's not going to suddenly become one.

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

We would still need morw bodies. Eriksen cannot play with Fred or Mctominay. So if say Casemiro or fred is injured we are fecked. The ideal situation would be to sell Mctominay and buy a replacement a better one but unfer this ownership we are not doing anything so we are stuck with him. We can't just offload him without buying anyone.

We are not doing anything because we don't have money. If we sell then we have money, not rocket sciense. We can get more bodies by using the cash we are getting from McTominay. Offer comes, we need to take the opportunity to cash in.

 

[JeffFromHK]

He does run, I couldn't find any distance convered stats but I'm sure McTominay is between the top ones. His positioning is below average, his awareness is not great and he's not a particularly good marker.

He's a very similar player to Brandon Williams in the sense that you can see they have the fight in them but not the quality. They should be moved on, we need way better but when playing him it's unfair to ask him to play like Casemiro when he's clearly incapable of doing it.

Did anyone really expected a master class from him? He was obviously going to get dominated by Partey he's a very inferior player.

There's a Spanish refrain that says "No matter how nicely you ask, you won't get pears from an elm tree."

That's exactly what's happening with McTominay people are expecting him to be a great player when he's never been one in his entries career. He's not going to suddenly become one.

His distance covered stats is nice, but jogging is very different from sprinting. You easily feel more tired sprinting 200M than jogging for 5 km.

 

[AshRK]

We are not doing anything because we don't have money. If we sell then we have money, not rocket sciense. We can get more bodies by using the cash we are getting from McTominay. Offer comes, we need to take the opportunity to cash in.

I don't trust this ownership to even invest the funds back. Look at Arsenal still trying to buy more players. Whilst we being a bigger club don't do anything.

Wait till season is over is our only option and hopefully new owners back the manager.

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

I don't trust this ownership to even invest the funds back. Look at Arsenal still trying to buy more players. Whilst we being a bigger club don't do anything.

Wait till season is over is our only option and hopefully new owners back the manager.

Glazers had stopped to take the dividend. They won't invest (they never do) nor take another cash because they are selling the club and they don't want to lose value.

 

[SAFMUTD]

His distance covered stats is nice, but jogging is very different from sprinting. You easily feel more tired sprinting 200M than jogging for 5 km.

You don't even need a CM to be constantly sprinting, that's more for fullbacks, wingers and strikers. A CM is more about positioning, covering ground, anticipating the danger. Fred sprints a lot for example due to his lack of positioning while you rarely see Casemiro out of position and having to sprint in order to recover.

 

[JeffFromHK]

You don't even need a CM to be constantly sprinting, that's more for fullbacks, wingers and strikers. A CM is more about positioning, covering ground, anticipating the danger. Fred sprints a lot for example due to his lack of positioning while you rarely see Casemiro out of position and having to sprint in order to recover.

but you need to sprint when there is a need to do so, McTominay refuses to sprint most of the time even when there is a need to do so.

him and De Gea got the same diffusion of responsibility mentality - "let my teammates do my job!"

 

[Kag]

Apparently not a cause of our midfield being overrun but what is the main way of not getting overrun? By maintaining possession yourself of course. So a midfielder who consistently hides and offers nothing does in fact make it hard to retain possession which in turn leads to being overrun. A consistent feature of his appearances.

Eriksen made 75% more passes than McTominay today. 75%.

As a team we are 6th in the league in possession, so you would expect our players to be around the top 30% or 70th percentile in possession stats as well no?

Well they are or even better in some cases.

Eriksen - 85th percentile
Casemiro - 87th percentile
Fred - 75th percentile

Now where is McTominay you ask? Maybe a bit lower you think?

The 30th percentile. 70% of midfielders make more passes than McTominay, this despite the fact McTominay plays for a team in 3rd place and 6th in possession.

But this includes the past year so part of last season where we were poor. So obviously he has improved this year? Wrong. He has actually got considerably worse. 44 passes per 90 is the 30th percentile, McTominay now averages just 32.4 passes per 90 minutes.

A central midfielder for a top 3 club who makes 32.4 passes per 90.

In comparison:
Fred - 75% more passes
Casemiro - 96% more passes. That is almost an average of twice as many passes per 90.
Eriksen - 95% more passes. Wow also almost twice as many.

In conclusion, what causes the midfield to be overrun? Well, midfielders who are afraid of the ball and lack the basic skills of getting onto the ball. Principal in chief, Scott McTominay.

This is a crackers read. Should be sent to every numpty who pipes up with the usual ‘well, he was OK; there was worse out there’.

It genuinely is like playing with ten men.

 

[Kag]

I'd guarantee the large majority of poster on here would have had an issue with players like Fletcher, Park, O'Shea, Butt and Johnson

You need a squad of players. You need a different mix of players but more importantly you need players who are willing to remain a fringe player and step in when needed.

Fletcher, Park and Butt mixed it up and came out on top against some of the world’s best midfielders. The McTominay comparison is a nonsense.

 

[SAFMUTD]

but you need to sprint when there is a need to do so, McTominay refuses to sprint most of the time even when there is a need to do so.

him and De Gea got the same diffusion of responsibility mentality - "let my teammates do my job!"

Do you have any data to back this up? Because I don't think that's true. I never seen McTominay as a lazy player who won't make the run.

 

[SAFMUTD]

Apparently not a cause of our midfield being overrun but what is the main way of not getting overrun? By maintaining possession yourself of course. So a midfielder who consistently hides and offers nothing does in fact make it hard to retain possession which in turn leads to being overrun. A consistent feature of his appearances.

Eriksen made 75% more passes than McTominay today. 75%.

As a team we are 6th in the league in possession, so you would expect our players to be around the top 30% or 70th percentile in possession stats as well no?

Well they are or even better in some cases.

Eriksen - 85th percentile
Casemiro - 87th percentile
Fred - 75th percentile

Now where is McTominay you ask? Maybe a bit lower you think?

The 30th percentile. 70% of midfielders make more passes than McTominay, this despite the fact McTominay plays for a team in 3rd place and 6th in possession.

But this includes the past year so part of last season where we were poor. So obviously he has improved this year? Wrong. He has actually got considerably worse. 44 passes per 90 is the 30th percentile, McTominay now averages just 32.4 passes per 90 minutes.

A central midfielder for a top 3 club who makes 32.4 passes per 90.

In comparison:
Fred - 75% more passes
Casemiro - 96% more passes. That is almost an average of twice as many passes per 90.
Eriksen - 95% more passes. Wow also almost twice as many.

In conclusion, what causes the midfield to be overrun? Well, midfielders who are afraid of the ball and lack the basic skills of getting onto the ball. Principal in chief, Scott McTominay.

Feck those are some damning stats. Nothing else to add

 

[Skills]

Apparently not a cause of our midfield being overrun but what is the main way of not getting overrun? By maintaining possession yourself of course. So a midfielder who consistently hides and offers nothing does in fact make it hard to retain possession which in turn leads to being overrun. A consistent feature of his appearances.

Eriksen made 75% more passes than McTominay today. 75%.

As a team we are 6th in the league in possession, so you would expect our players to be around the top 30% or 70th percentile in possession stats as well no?

Well they are or even better in some cases.

Eriksen - 85th percentile
Casemiro - 87th percentile
Fred - 75th percentile

Now where is McTominay you ask? Maybe a bit lower you think?

The 30th percentile. 70% of midfielders make more passes than McTominay, this despite the fact McTominay plays for a team in 3rd place and 6th in possession.

But this includes the past year so part of last season where we were poor. So obviously he has improved this year? Wrong. He has actually got considerably worse. 44 passes per 90 is the 30th percentile, McTominay now averages just 32.4 passes per 90 minutes.

A central midfielder for a top 3 club who makes 32.4 passes per 90.

In comparison:
Fred - 75% more passes
Casemiro - 96% more passes. That is almost an average of twice as many passes per 90.
Eriksen - 95% more passes. Wow also almost twice as many.

In conclusion, what causes the midfield to be overrun? Well, midfielders who are afraid of the ball and lack the basic skills of getting onto the ball. Principal in chief, Scott McTominay.

Good post

 

[DRJosh]

MCT does seem genuinely afraid of being too involved or engaged in every game he plays. He plays under the radar but he remains in stealth mode with no end product.

It’s like he adorns an invisibility cloak every time he is given a game so his lack of technical skill won’t be found out.

He needs to leave for Newcastle.

 

[elmo]

I get many in here are angry with him but it's not his fault. I feel sad for him because he always give his best, you can see the effort. He's not lazy, he runs his socks off he's a hard worker and you can genuinely see he cares about the club.

He doesn't have the quality though so he'll get exposed more often than not. It's unfair to ask him to perform on a level that he can't, he's not going to suddenly transform into a great player. This is his level, this is what you can get from him anything above is asking too much. So you know what to expect from him and should be criticized accordingly.

I don't think you are watching him play properly. Watch him when we have possession and he's always running towards an opposing player which cuts out a passing option for his teammates because he's making himself unavailable.

On defence, he's always slow to close up the gap when others are pressing and it makes you wonder is he supposed to be cutting out the passing lanes or is he supposed to press because he's doing neither. Once an attacker starts running at him, he'll either start fouling or just start backing off and hope someone cleans up his shit for him.

He's either thick as shit or gutless, either is enough reason for him to never play for us again.

It shows in the stats because he's woeful in numbers of touches per game that some goalkeepers probably average more touches than him per game. He's truly Jose's gift to us that keeps stinking up the team with every game he plays for us.

 

[tenpoless]

MCT does seem genuinely afraid of being too involved or engaged in every game he plays. He plays under the radar but he remains in stealth mode with no end product.

It’s like he adorns an invisibility cloak every time he is given a game so his lack of technical skill won’t be found out.

He needs to leave for Newcastle.

I guess it shows his belief in his own ability, which means he's already at his peak, he can't possibly get better if he thinks that way.
Players like him who don't have a standout midfielder ability like passing, reading the game should at least get stuck in. Foul people and be generally annoying to play against. Take that away and it feels like playing with 10 men.

 

[tenpoless]

I get many in here are angry with him but it's not his fault. I feel sad for him because he always give his best, you can see the effort. He's not lazy, he runs his socks off he's a hard worker and you can genuinely see he cares about the club.

He doesn't have the quality though so he'll get exposed more often than not. It's unfair to ask him to perform on a level that he can't, he's not going to suddenly transform into a great player. This is his level, this is what you can get from him anything above is asking too much. So you know what to expect from him and should be criticized accordingly.

Then it's best for him to go elsewhere. Even Park who famously known only for his work rate could score, put in through passes, dribble and his man marking ability was really good. If Park was a work horse... I don't know what Scotty is. Below work horse?

 

[jeepers]

Apparently not a cause of our midfield being overrun but what is the main way of not getting overrun? By maintaining possession yourself of course. So a midfielder who consistently hides and offers nothing does in fact make it hard to retain possession which in turn leads to being overrun. A consistent feature of his appearances.

Eriksen made 75% more passes than McTominay today. 75%.

As a team we are 6th in the league in possession, so you would expect our players to be around the top 30% or 70th percentile in possession stats as well no?

Well they are or even better in some cases.

Eriksen - 85th percentile
Casemiro - 87th percentile
Fred - 75th percentile

Now where is McTominay you ask? Maybe a bit lower you think?

The 30th percentile. 70% of midfielders make more passes than McTominay, this despite the fact McTominay plays for a team in 3rd place and 6th in possession.

But this includes the past year so part of last season where we were poor. So obviously he has improved this year? Wrong. He has actually got considerably worse. 44 passes per 90 is the 30th percentile, McTominay now averages just 32.4 passes per 90 minutes.

A central midfielder for a top 3 club who makes 32.4 passes per 90.

In comparison:
Fred - 75% more passes
Casemiro - 96% more passes. That is almost an average of twice as many passes per 90.
Eriksen - 95% more passes. Wow also almost twice as many.

In conclusion, what causes the midfield to be overrun? Well, midfielders who are afraid of the ball and lack the basic skills of getting onto the ball. Principal in chief, Scott McTominay.

I’m going to quote this on every page until it gets stickied somewhere for all those dumb fecks to read, especially for that mega dumb feck who compared McT to Gerrard just because he has those few performances against Leeds.

 

[DatIrishFella]

He truly sticks out in this team. And for all the wrong reasons. As a player, he shows too much cowardice. Maybe because he knows he's not good enough?

Either way he'll be gone in the summer.

 

[Slevs]

I get many in here are angry with him but it's not his fault. I feel sad for him because he always give his best, you can see the effort. He's not lazy, he runs his socks off he's a hard worker and you can genuinely see he cares about the club.

He doesn't have the quality though so he'll get exposed more often than not. It's unfair to ask him to perform on a level that he can't, he's not going to suddenly transform into a great player. This is his level, this is what you can get from him anything above is asking too much. So you know what to expect from him and should be criticized accordingly.

I don't think anyone has a personal problem with the guy? He seems a decent lad and cares about the club, just not good enough skill wise for what we currently need.

 

[KeanoMagicHat]

He truly sticks out in this team. And for all the wrong reasons. As a player, he shows too much cowardice. Maybe because he knows he's not good enough?

Either way he'll be gone in the summer.

Cowardice on both areas of the pitch, you wouldn’t even mind if he was a monster defensively in positioning and tackling to make up for the poor technique but he’s not either.

Casemiro has completely shown up the myth he’s a good defender.

Not good enough technically or going forward either, best to be box to box for a mid-table team. Simply not good enough.

 

[IrishRedDevil]

So what was his ‘special role’ that we heard about pre game?

 

[Roboc7]

Nothing like revisionism and hindsight.
If we were winning leagues and trophies then the same would be said about McTominay

It’s nothing to do with trophies it’s based on performances simple as that. I don’t know how you can be downplaying players like Fletcher and Butt whilst falsely claiming Mctominay was superb at the start of the season, it makes no sense.

Mctominay doesn’t even have the work rate of someone like Fletcher let alone the talent or consistency. That’s the thing with Mctominay it’s not just his ability in comparison to those players it’s his work rate, versatility, intelligence, reliability. He has no place amongst those players.

 

[oz insomniac]

McTom is the guy that is picked constantly , even in park football, because he’s 100% attendance at trading and tries very hard. Often they are in the team ahead of others as the coach wants to point out that hard work at training is needed.

Unfortunately, Man Utd is not amateur football and McToms deficiencies are becoming more obvious and detrimental to the team. He has the build of a CB, and I’m not sure playing Maguire in midfield would be any different, other thanMaguire would win more tackles and headers.

 

[AFC NimbleThumb]

Someone called him Scott McTalentless in another thread. That resonated with me.

The fact a number of fans force fed this guy to us as ‘good enough’ still has me dumbfounded. Never been good enough & if we’re sold he’ll be out the door with quickness once the merry go round starts.

 

[Zippycup]

It’s nothing to do with trophies it’s based on performances simple as that. I don’t know how you can be downplaying players like Fletcher and Butt whilst falsely claiming Mctominay was superb at the start of the season, it makes no sense.

Mctominay doesn’t even have the work rate of someone like Fletcher let alone the talent or consistency. That’s the thing with Mctominay it’s not just his ability in comparison to those players it’s his work rate, versatility, intelligence, reliability. He has no place amongst those players.

Where have I downplayed hem?

 

[AFC NimbleThumb]

Nothing like revisionism and hindsight.
If we were winning leagues and trophies then the same would be said about McTominay

He wouldn’t & wont be near a united side that’s winning leagues though.

He’s not miscast, he’s a symptom of why we’re so bad. He wouldn’t make the better squads.

 

[Ludens the Red]

I get many in here are angry with him but it's not his fault. I feel sad for him because he always give his best, you can see the effort. He's not lazy, he runs his socks off he's a hard worker and you can genuinely see he cares about the club.

He doesn't have the quality though so he'll get exposed more often than not. It's unfair to ask him to perform on a level that he can't, he's not going to suddenly transform into a great player. This is his level, this is what you can get from him anything above is asking too much. So you know what to expect from him and should be criticized accordingly.

Got to this stage with him now where I can’t even be bothered to critique his performances or complain. It’s now just ‘it’s not his fault Manchester United continue to pay him money to play for them’. Previous regime lumbered us with him and placed him as an important part of the squad. I am very confident ten Haag will replace him at the first available opportunity as that was his first league start since October so it’s clear ETH knows he’s shite.

 

[DWelbz19]

Apparently not a cause of our midfield being overrun but what is the main way of not getting overrun? By maintaining possession yourself of course. So a midfielder who consistently hides and offers nothing does in fact make it hard to retain possession which in turn leads to being overrun. A consistent feature of his appearances.

Eriksen made 75% more passes than McTominay today. 75%.

As a team we are 6th in the league in possession, so you would expect our players to be around the top 30% or 70th percentile in possession stats as well no?

Well they are or even better in some cases.

Eriksen - 85th percentile
Casemiro - 87th percentile
Fred - 75th percentile

Now where is McTominay you ask? Maybe a bit lower you think?

The 30th percentile. 70% of midfielders make more passes than McTominay, this despite the fact McTominay plays for a team in 3rd place and 6th in possession.

But this includes the past year so part of last season where we were poor. So obviously he has improved this year? Wrong. He has actually got considerably worse. 44 passes per 90 is the 30th percentile, McTominay now averages just 32.4 passes per 90 minutes.

A central midfielder for a top 3 club who makes 32.4 passes per 90.

In comparison:
Fred - 75% more passes
Casemiro - 96% more passes. That is almost an average of twice as many passes per 90.
Eriksen - 95% more passes. Wow also almost twice as many.

In conclusion, what causes the midfield to be overrun? Well, midfielders who are afraid of the ball and lack the basic skills of getting onto the ball. Principal in chief, Scott McTominay.

I’ve banged this drum plenty of times down the years — it’s the one fundamental flaw that massively hinders everything else about his game; he just doesn’t (or cannot) want to touch the football in matches. He quite literally hides away despite being the biggest man in midfield.

 

[Zippycup]

He wouldn’t & wont be near a united side that’s winning leagues though.

He’s not miscast, he’s a symptom of why we’re so bad. He wouldn’t make the better squads.

He wouldn't?
Yet he's highly rated by mangers who have won many PL titles?

He's the latest scapegoat for fans
When he leaves we will find someone else. And someone else after that.

 

[Chaky_Best]

Scapegoat. He didnt forced Solskjaer or Rangnick to play him.

Of course he s not on the same dimension as Casemiro, but he s the only one in our squad that can physically replace him.

He did his best, the game was too quick.

I would rather question other players than him in this game.

 

[Roboc7]

Where have I downplayed hem?

By comparing them to Mctominay and saying it’s just revisionism and hindsight to say they are better. Yet somehow Mctominay was superb apparently .

 

[NewGlory]

Scapegoat. He didnt forced Solskjaer or Rangnick to play him.

Of course he s not on the same dimension as Casemiro, but he s the only one in our squad that can physically replace him.

He did his best, the game was too quick.

I would rather question other players than him in this game.

He was much better in September. Today he sucked and we know it is not his limit. Even at his limit he is an Everton player and not United level, but he is also in shit form lately.

 

[Ludens the Red]

Apparently not a cause of our midfield being overrun but what is the main way of not getting overrun? By maintaining possession yourself of course. So a midfielder who consistently hides and offers nothing does in fact make it hard to retain possession which in turn leads to being overrun. A consistent feature of his appearances.

Eriksen made 75% more passes than McTominay today. 75%.

As a team we are 6th in the league in possession, so you would expect our players to be around the top 30% or 70th percentile in possession stats as well no?

Well they are or even better in some cases.

Eriksen - 85th percentile
Casemiro - 87th percentile
Fred - 75th percentile

Now where is McTominay you ask? Maybe a bit lower you think?

The 30th percentile. 70% of midfielders make more passes than McTominay, this despite the fact McTominay plays for a team in 3rd place and 6th in possession.

But this includes the past year so part of last season where we were poor. So obviously he has improved this year? Wrong. He has actually got considerably worse. 44 passes per 90 is the 30th percentile, McTominay now averages just 32.4 passes per 90 minutes.

A central midfielder for a top 3 club who makes 32.4 passes per 90.

In comparison:
Fred - 75% more passes
Casemiro - 96% more passes. That is almost an average of twice as many passes per 90.
Eriksen - 95% more passes. Wow also almost twice as many.

In conclusion, what causes the midfield to be overrun? Well, midfielders who are afraid of the ball and lack the basic skills of getting onto the ball. Principal in chief, Scott McTominay.

Should be stickied for these weirdos bringing up Butt and Fletcher.

 

[kouroux]

He does run, I couldn't find any distance convered stats but I'm sure McTominay is between the top ones. His positioning is below average, his awareness is not great and he's not a particularly good marker.

He's a very similar player to Brandon Williams in the sense that you can see they have the fight in them but not the quality. They should be moved on, we need way better but when playing him it's unfair to ask him to play like Casemiro when he's clearly incapable of doing it.

Did anyone really expected a master class from him? He was obviously going to get dominated by Partey he's a very inferior player.

There's a Spanish refrain that says "No matter how nicely you ask, you won't get pears from an elm tree."

That's exactly what's happening with McTominay people are expecting him to be a great player when he's never been one in his entire career he's not going to suddenly become one.

Your last paragraph makes no sense. Nobody expects him to be a great player, that ship sailed a long time ago. However being available for passes is the most basic thing a CM should be able to do, even if it means playing it back from it came. McT hides from the ball, that is just nuts.

 

[Zippycup]

By comparing them to Mctominay and saying it’s just revisionism and hindsight to say they are better. Yet somehow Mctominay was superb apparently .

That's not downplaying. That's stating an opinion on how fans see fringe players.

Yes. McTominay was superb at the start of the season . It wasn't until Casemiro came in that McTominay was dropped.

 

[arnie_ni]

That two yard pass he couldnt make near the end. Arsenal scored the winner then.

He is not good enough. Mourinho gave him his chance because he was tall and could defend crosses. No technical ability about him.

At the edge of their box to WW? fecking horrendous.