I'm no paediatrician but wouldn't be surprised, everything makes kids shit!
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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I'm no paediatrician but wouldn't be surprised, everything makes kids shit!
We recently went 11 days in NSW without a locally acquired case. We detected SARS-CoV-2 in sewage during that period, testing was urged in the area and a few days later we had an outbreak. However, a town in Qld had the same thing and testing found nothing and there have been no cases reported since.
Transmission on flights riskier than we thought.
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/12/20-3910_article
Of 64 people on the flight who had or later developed Covid at least 8 and possibly 11 caught it on the 5 hr flight from Sydney to Perth. Most were in windows seats which is the opposite of what was expected.
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/12/20-3910_article
Of 64 people on the flight who had or later developed Covid at least 8 and possibly 11 caught it on the 5 hr flight from Sydney to Perth. Most were in windows seats which is the opposite of what was expected.
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A lot of primary cases, very little mask-usage or other safety measures, before anyone extrapolates this too much whilst thinking about today's flight safety. Good study nonetheless.Transmission on flights riskier than we thought.
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/12/20-3910_article
Of 64 people on the flight who had or later developed Covid at least 8 and possibly 11 caught it on the 5 hr flight from Sydney to Perth. Most were in windows seats which is the opposite of what was expected.
The NHS symptoms maybe?
Transmission on flights riskier than we thought.
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/12/20-3910_article
Of 64 people on the flight who had or later developed Covid at least 8 and possibly 11 caught it on the 5 hr flight from Sydney to Perth. Most were in windows seats which is the opposite of what was expected.
Interesting read, certainly makes this statement from IATA look silly now - https://www.iata.org/en/pressroom/pr/2020-09-08-012/
It was very early on so numbers on the flight
wouldn't have been restricted and I doubt there was much if any mask wearing. The windows seat seeming to escalate risk even when you don't leave your seat is interest though. Presumably something to do with airflow patterns.
Seating limits and maskwearing will have reduced the risk since this flight was very early on. However perhaps the airflow patterns and filtering of air that was thought to reduce risk doesn't as much as we hoped.
Yeah. They talk about masks in the study. Very few used them, including symptomatic primary cases. Window seat pattern is interesting indeed. I do prefer the aisle anyway, though.
On aircraft the air comes down from the ceiling and is drawn out through vents underneath the windows by your feet. Presumably because of the power of the onboard circulation system, any virus particles that are picked up are carried right past you in the window seat.
There has been an awful lot of research carried out since that flight (admittedly airline/manufacturer led) that shows a low risk of transmission, if procedures are followed.
The logistics of vaccine distribution and administration
https://amp.abc.net.au/article/12808914
Which vaccines each country has manufacturing capacity to produce and/which vaccines each country has signed up for may further complicate roll out. Not surprising and ina way good that we are getting more specifics.
https://www.theguardian.com/austral...-vaccine-may-take-an-extra-year-minister-says
https://amp.abc.net.au/article/12808914
Which vaccines each country has manufacturing capacity to produce and/which vaccines each country has signed up for may further complicate roll out. Not surprising and ina way good that we are getting more specifics.
https://www.theguardian.com/austral...-vaccine-may-take-an-extra-year-minister-says
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India has promised 500 million doses of the vaccine by July - and expect 250 million people vaccinated.
All eggs in the AstraZeneca basket.
These protests were in Campania where the regional president is taking a hard line - they didn't have a big problem with the virus first time around, but now they're one of the worst-affected regions.
It seems likely to me that these violent protests aren't really protests, they're ultras/extremists stirring up discontent. The business owners held a peaceful protest the night before, as it happened. The Mafia (Camorra) is very active in that particular part of Italy and the authorities have been trying to minimise their exploitation of the Covid crisis.
@Jippy don’t use the window seatsTransmission on flights riskier than we thought.
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/12/20-3910_article
Of 64 people on the flight who had or later developed Covid at least 8 and possibly 11 caught it on the 5 hr flight from Sydney to Perth. Most were in windows seats which is the opposite of what was expected.
My brother may have to isolate for 14 days due to a colleague potentially testing positive.
So much for the regional approach working out in Italy. Or the idea that the north / south divide and the economic effects being felt particularly harshly in historically disadvantaged areas was being kept under control. Likewise for the idea that there's something uniquely wrong with young people in the UK that were intolerant to the restrictions and their effects.
Maybe we should listen to them.
Lots of Italians dont consider Naples truly part of Italy, including Neopolitans themselves. It's a totally different place. They rarely need much of an excuse to get out on the streets and riot, I wouldn't read too much into it.
A women in my office had been coming in with Corona virus symptoms for over a week and didn’t tell anybody.
She thought she had stomach flu and was immediately sent home on Tuesday when someone found out.
It transpires that her boyfriend, that she lives with was unwell too and had been tested for Corona virus. His test came back positive on Wednesday
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If people weren’t so bloody selfish and isolated themselves when they had symptoms we wouldn’t be in such a fecking shit situation.
She thought she had stomach flu and was immediately sent home on Tuesday when someone found out.
It transpires that her boyfriend, that she lives with was unwell too and had been tested for Corona virus. His test came back positive on Wednesday
.If people weren’t so bloody selfish and isolated themselves when they had symptoms we wouldn’t be in such a fecking shit situation.
Especially when we could be edging to some sort of critical mass again.A women in my office had been coming in with Corona virus symptoms for over a week and didn’t tell anybody.
She thought she had stomach flu and was immediately sent home on Tuesday when someone found out.
It transpires that her boyfriend, that she lives with was unwell too and had been tested for Corona virus. His test came back positive on Wednesday
If people weren’t so bloody selfish and isolated themselves when they had symptoms we wouldn’t be in such a fecking shit situation.
I saw that, thanks. I've always been an aisle seat fan from my drinking days.
I used to be a window seat guy but now I’m older and bladder control is more challenging I don’t like climbing over people to get to the loo.
that being said I don’t like getting bashed by the trolleys either
What has your company communicated to all staff about wfh? If i went to work with real symptoms there'd be no one to catch it off me. I usually go 1 afternoon per week.A women in my office had been coming in with Corona virus symptoms for over a week and didn’t tell anybody.
She thought she had stomach flu and was immediately sent home on Tuesday when someone found out.
It transpires that her boyfriend, that she lives with was unwell too and had been tested for Corona virus. His test came back positive on Wednesday
If people weren’t so bloody selfish and isolated themselves when they had symptoms we wouldn’t be in such a fecking shit situation.
I know that they do not like the North, but this regarding not considering themselves to be Italy is new to me. What are they then, a city-state?
Business as usual unless she gets a positive test. They sanitised her desk but that’s it.
i’ve been working from home but it’s a shit show.
They're just very different to the rest of the country. If there were ever to be a Catalan style independence movement in Italy, it would be in Naples.
I thought the closest thing Italy had in that respect was the Lega Nord campaign for greater autonomy - and for some, independence - for the north?
They use it to stir up anti Southern resentment but I dont think they ever actually want to split off, if anything its more the other way round. Lots of the North just resent paying for the South.
We have some catching up to do, France with 52k cases today.
They dropped the "Nord' bit as Salvini's ambitions grew.
Spain ordering nationwide curfew
could you imagine them even suggesting that to the U.K. public?
could you imagine them even suggesting that to the U.K. public?
That must be some positivity rate unless they have some massive testing capacity?
Interesting that it looks like Australia has saved at least 400 extra lives per month through covid related restrictions, with deaths during June being 400 lower than the bottom of the likely range.
Interesting but not surprising. Much less traffic on the roads, more drinking at home so less drink driving and less transmission of all the usual infectious diseases. You can always save lives if you wrap everyone in cotton wool. But not a trade off that society would usually be willing to make.
It was just interesting to see it quantified. Mainly respiratory deaths down although oddly dementia deaths were also down. And of course that doesn't account for any longer term health issues caused by the lockdown (early on in all states and now in Victoria) be it mental health or people not going to the doctor when they should. Luckily we haven't had to do much delaying of essential medical treatment due to keeping infection numbers down.
0 new cases reported in Victoria today. Been a long time coming. Still in lockdown, hoping for good news in the next couple of days.
fecking hell, then I cannot blame her. Shit company.
I'm hoping we have a 4th day in NSW and have zero national cases of local transmission for the first time since this began (I assume).
Edit: 1 case in NSW - connected to a known cluster
I'm just hoping they jumped on the Victorian school cluster fast enough and that we won't see some infections over the next few days. I can't believe the flack Dan Andrews is getting for delaying a decision on decreasing restriction for a couple of days to get the testing backlog done as a result of aggressively testing the close contacts of the school cluster.
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I doubt there would me much problem if they did that here. Its 11pm to 6am. There's no pubs or clubs open in the uk after 10pm so why would people be bothered about being out after 11pm.
I am not the least bit surprised! People are desperate for this stage IV lockdown to be over. It's hard to stay rational. Plus it looks like the DHHS might have mishandled the family at the centre of the outbreak, they don't fill me with confidence. Fingers crossed for the outbreak to be controlled and restrictions easing by the end of the week.
Hard to know if the DHHS cocked up or the family made an error (or both) as I think the family just assumed the youngest kid didn't need clearance as he hadn't tested positive yet and DHHS didn't specifically address the status of the youngest kid. The subtext of some reports seems to be that language was an issue. Of course than could be the press racist dogwhistling as it was a Muslim family/school or DHHS needing clearer comms or just a cockup. Fingers crossed there are no more infections from that cluster to come. I fear there may be a few more.
I know that the second lockdown must have been even harder than the first but the right wing press and politicians have been irresponsible and trying to stir shit up and exacerbate the stress for political gain. Also hard to know if Vic's contract tracing is worse than NSW's (as Muroch et al. seem to be alleging) or if they are just leaping on possible outbreaks and doing mass contract tracing thus the day or so delay in results. It would be great of they could make an announcement by mid week but I'm not sure when the last transmission was which will influence when any announcement can be made.