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SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
- Thread starter Don't Kill Bill
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Fortunately the weather's not too great for the next week. Can you imagine this speech coming before the 20+ degrees we had the last few days?!
Unfortunately I believe this is still part of their herd immunity. They don't mind people going out and about as it might create immunity. It also deflects blame away from them, if they say "continue as it has been", and everyone goes out, as they can just say they advised to stay at home but people didn't listen.
Unfortunately I believe this is still part of their herd immunity. They don't mind people going out and about as it might create immunity. It also deflects blame away from them, if they say "continue as it has been", and everyone goes out, as they can just say they advised to stay at home but people didn't listen.
Am I right in saying London has slowed the spread ? Maybe this has something to do with it because the north west seems to be riddled which coincides with hardly anywhere shutting down.
There are certain jobs in my place were social distancing is impossible and the company policy of wearing a mask when doing so isn't good enough for my liking (luckily I work alone so it's not too bad)
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@horsechoker
It was never Meant to be the case as far as i remember. People just started doing as they pleased pretty much.
I think you can blame the media for this. Government's have been fairly consistent in their messaging on that, as far as i have seen anyway. Media have been wheeling out any rent a quote they can find as long as they studied virology for a single semester 20 years ago, its the media who have been jumping on every preliminary study they can find and treating it as gospel.
Kinda wish it would bucket it down for weeks on end and have all those storms we experienced just before the outbreak to keep some dumb fecks in. Clap for carers is a nice idea but on a warm evening it just turns into hanging out with the neighbours if most have been drinking.
You're right the BBC does say that, but Boris didn't this evening, if true it's fairly significant piece of info left out, and to just be casually released in 'the details' tomorrow.
Is it just one person? Or one person at time? ie I can see my mother, my wife hers, my daughter her best mate, (one at a time), etc.
Yeah the media
Haven't you and I danced this dance before?Point stands = effective social distancing is an oxymoron. Standing 2 or 3 meters away from someone won't really do the job. You could be 10 meters away from the person in an unventilated room and still get it. You could be running behind someone 30 meters in front of you and still catch it. At least, this is how I understand transmission (and yes. I could be wrong).
Yurp. Find it strange people are encouraged to go to work tomorrow but not allowed to see loved ones.
Apparently temperatures are meant to pick up again next weekend which isn't the best timing.
Is it though? In the grand scheme of things?
In the context of visiting parks for their "exercise" they weren't really no. Borris hasn't opened retail arms, he hasn't opened bars pubs restaurants cinemas or anything of the sort. He won't until July. So people can't move about much outside of going to parks or down to Morrisons. All across the UK there have been substantial groups taking a piss with that.
Countless bbqs, garden parties, street parties, park gatherings all over. I see it on Instagram, i see it on the news, everywhere. Now our PM allowing unlimited exercise in parks just makes something unofficially happening now an official thing. Yes it increases traffic but it's not as material as suggested.
This is just plain stupid. How will they police it? People will not stop at 1 person. They should not have done this at this stage.
I think we’ll have a second lock down before the end of the year.
People's stupidity alone will make sure that happens.
My thoughts exactly. I’ll add selfishness to stupidity as well
Think it’s safe to say that this Communication from UK Governement is already a big fail. Watching BBC and Sky, not one person from a entire range of consistencies has any real idea what was meant by it.
The immediate take out is utter confusion eg: most don’t even know if it applies from Monday or Wednesday. This confusion will now just get amplified and embedded by responsive in all forms of media.
I’m not more fearful for what is about to come next, than i was when first lockdown was announced.
The immediate take out is utter confusion eg: most don’t even know if it applies from Monday or Wednesday. This confusion will now just get amplified and embedded by responsive in all forms of media.
I’m not more fearful for what is about to come next, than i was when first lockdown was announced.
What a pointless speech Johnson gave.
I'll ask the Caf, under these new rules can I drive to the beach and walk my dog now?
I'll ask the Caf, under these new rules can I drive to the beach and walk my dog now?
Same way they policed the one form of exercise a day (not at all as it is impossible without a system in place like Italy for example)
They can't. A house across the street had about 15 people I've never seen before crammed into their front garden to catch the evening sun on VE Day and half of them did the same again on Saturday. The police don't appear to have either the resources or the will to clamp down on obvious shite like that around here, never mind making sure everyone standing within 2 metres of each other in a public place are co-habiting. The government is just preparing for an inevitable inquiry where it can push the responsibility onto people not following it's guidance.
A degree of stupidity was inevitable and with people like my neighbours above were always going to be at it, but even people I'd normally term as sensible have been bending and breaking rules throughout lockdown, largely because the messaging they've been getting has been inconsistent or so vague as to be pointless. Case in point on the latter is the 2m advice and those clowns doing a 'socially distanced' conga on Friday. In a painfully literal-minded way, they could argue they were are practising social distancing as per the guidelines, but anyone with common sense can see that it's irrelevant if you're 2 metres away from someone if, by walking directly behind them, you're taking a breath in exactly the same place they breathed out a second earlier.
Yeah the media
Point stands = effective social distancing is an oxymoron. Standing 2 or 3 meters away from someone won't really do the job. You could be 10 meters away from the person in an unventilated room and still get it. You could be running behind someone 30 meters in front of you and still catch it. At least, this is how I understand transmission (and yes. I could be wrong).
Your point doesn't really make sense. Effective social distancing doesn't mean you completely prevent all transmission, but rather you limit the spread. The distance seems to be an estimate to give an approximate guideline for governments to use. You will always find edge cases and some of the edge cases you give are probably not proper studies in the first place.
So how many of you now have to go to work tomorrow?
If in doubt go to work I guess.
Who will be going to work that wasn’t already going before? It’s the same as before isn’t it?
Work from home if you can. If you can’t, go to work.
Work from home if you can. If you can’t, go to work.
This, don’t understand what has changed in that sense.
This is the main problem following that announcement. Nobody has a clue what has actually changed. I’ve watched 3 different news channels and read numerous posts on here and on Reddit and everyone that thinks they know seems to have a different interpretation, otherwise they’re just confused.
Have they explained what will happen with furlough? I guess that will drive when people can go back to work who can't work from home.
Well that’s not it at all....
So barbers, hairdressers, tattoists, massage therapists, etc . They can’t work from home? Are they returning to work? And If they are how are they supposed to work if people aren’t allowed to see them?
What is going on?
What is going on?
That is almost inevitable unless you eradicate the virus and lock your borders. Even then this virus is highly infectious and things can get worse very quickly.
I won’t be sending my five year old to school in June. They can feck off if they think that I’m going to let him be used as some kind of guinea pig to kick start the economy.
It's basically unenforceable and going to cause untold headaches and wasting of police time. This measure would only work in a country with an obligatory ID carrying system where police can get your confirmed address within seconds.
In 3 weeks time we are going to see a big uptick in infection and will be back to the drawing board with the death rate uptick following in due course.
I wonder that they will do about furlough at that point and if they will reinstate the nightingale hospitals they shut down?
I wonder that they will do about furlough at that point and if they will reinstate the nightingale hospitals they shut down?
Can prostitutes work from home?
Asking for a friend
Asking for a friend
Considering the retail sector won't open until June.....
I interpreted that it is mostly aimed at the construction and manufacturing industry
They really should be giving parents a choice. If you feel comfortable then send them in, if not keep them at home.
It’s construction and manufacturing provided you can maintain a safe distance at work. No hairdressers, tattooists, prostitutes etc
it’s the same as before. it’s just weird that he put so much emphasis on it. Maybe just trying to reassure tradesmen that it’s now considered a bit safer. I’ve given up guessing what he’s talking about
it’s the same as before. it’s just weird that he put so much emphasis on it. Maybe just trying to reassure tradesmen that it’s now considered a bit safer. I’ve given up guessing what he’s talking about