We won't develop herd immunity in 18 months unless we open up completely and allow thousands to die.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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We won't develop herd immunity in 18 months unless we open up completely and allow thousands to die.
Aren’t there reports of people in Singapore who’ve recovered and got it again, as there’s more than 1 strain out there?
It’s 90% because I’m an annoying cnut 5%, they don’t want to be wrong and 5% something else.
Apparently not everyone is immune but I imagine there's some immunity. If there's not strong immunity and we can't develop vaccine, we will have to figure something else out. I don't think it will be that bad though.
All this talk about how people my age having it good/bad and I'm sitting here with two degrees but still renting, good local government private pension but shite British pension, Hagen daas ice cream in the freezer but no butter in the fridge. Meanwhile my parents have their own homes paid off and strong pensions but ill health and bugger all to do to pass the time.
And while all this is going on some billionaires are rubbing their hands together and whispering "good...good....hate each other...." as they steal anything that isn't nailed down. Like all the fecking Freddos
Let's just all agree that everyone will be affected by this for the worse except a small few and unless we all come together and put our differences aside there will be no more Freddos left forme us.
And while all this is going on some billionaires are rubbing their hands together and whispering "good...good....hate each other...." as they steal anything that isn't nailed down. Like all the fecking Freddos
Let's just all agree that everyone will be affected by this for the worse except a small few and unless we all come together and put our differences aside there will be no more Freddos left for
AFAIK there's no real indication that there's no immunity, so far. Most cases that tested positive again after recovery are suspected to be because of the test's unreliability rather than an actual reinfection. There's not enough information to make any meaningful conclusions of course, as is the case with most things related to this pandemic.
2972 new infections in Italy, the lowest number in weeks!
602 deaths unfortunately which is an increase on yesterday.
602 deaths unfortunately which is an increase on yesterday.
No one is going to be a tourist in Italy this year, wasting their money. They’d be better making plexi glass protection for taxi drivers or something like that. Plus, wouldn’t those things be like giant heat conductors?
Domestic tourism will be much bigger this year. I don't know what kind of restrictions will be in place this summer but I think more people will go on holiday within their own country. I know people are gagging to go out all over Europe and a trip to the beach or wherever will be much sought after.
UK Update now, I feel Rishi Sunak is the only person who will give answers properly and ones we can believe
Question for the doctors - we’ve been quarantining in the house for 5 weeks now but using our back garden which is made private with high fences all around. Apart from receiving deliveries to our doorstep we haven’t had any contact from anyone else.
May wife, the kids and i all seem to be getting a common cold; sniffles, sneezing, itchy throats and occasional cough.
how is it possible considering we haven’t been near anyone?
May wife, the kids and i all seem to be getting a common cold; sniffles, sneezing, itchy throats and occasional cough.
how is it possible considering we haven’t been near anyone?
Hayfever? I'm no doctor btw. Mine has started to flare up last week.
Common cold.
We've got similar and for us it is pollen I am sure it's been really high the last 5 days or so. *Disclaimer* I am not a doctor by any means this is just one possibility.
Interesting link, thanks. I always suspected reality was going to be way more complicated than loads of people suddenly dropping dead from poverty as soon as a country enters lockdown.
Another factor which gets overlooked in the economy vs lockdown debate is the cost to the economy (mortality and morbidity of key employees etc) of letting the virus do its thing.
I sense affluence and like-mindedness.
I would second the hayfever theory.
Seems to be how you got infected? It has to come from somewhere.
Far from it bud! We live in affordable housing in a deprived areaWife doesn’t get hay fever, or the kids. At least they don’t traditionally. I do every year and my eyes water and sting but that’s not the case. It feels more like a common cold. I can feel my throat itching and getting sore. If it’s a cold, how is that possible if we aren’t meeting anyone else?
unless someone sneezed on my shopping deliveries but we’ve been Uber careful as I am on the ‘vulnerable’ list
Hence why I’m curious.
but we wear gloves and masks bringing the shopping from the doorstep and then scrub our hands
Sunak is on another planet compared to Boris, Raab, Hancock, Gove & Patel. I bet the Tories can’t believe they’ve got him. Answers the exact questions answered, knows his stuff, is honest or at least appears it. I’d have him in the hot seat immediately if I had a say!
It's good news but taken with a pinch of salt, tests yesterday were at their lowest level in weeks. We have capacity for double the amount but for whatever reason people were not requesting them. It was Easter, or maybe the cases really are not there.
ICU utilization also reduced by 75 which is another very positive figure. We are getting ever close to reducing the absolute number of active cases. Only 600 short today.
Lots of winter colds can be from being cooped up in the house too long and being exposed to consistently high levels of dust (even with regular cleaning). You may be experiencing the same due to being in the house so much.
As the weather warms we also open our windows more and accumulated dust can blow inside. This has been my experience anyway. I have a strong dust allergy but an ENT I saw once said almost everyone is allergic to dust on some level.
Agree with this entirely! He speaks very very and doesn't appear to swerve questions anywhere near how the others do! Would expect him to win a huge majority in a leadership race.
If you get hayfever then you’ll know whether that’s causing your symptoms or if you’re starting to get a cold. If the latter, sounds like you’ve been incredibly unlucky.
Have you tried antihistamines? It's the easiest way to rule it out. If you're still experiencing the symptoms then you can rule out any allergies.
What does being careful involve? I've been trying to avoid loose items in my orders and then (when possible) washing the packages/items with soap. I can still imagine some contamination slipping through.
I think that OBR report is going to make it practically impossible for the government to avoid publishing some sort of exit plan by the end of this week.
This is a good post with good points.
We will if restrictions are dropped by then. Remember the initial English model? No restrictions means much shorter timespan and a much much higher peak
Yeah that was an absolutely disgusting policy though.
“Loads of people are going to die but let’s keep the economy bumping along”.
I'm already looking at places i can drive to this summer, despite having long vowed never to take my own car on any road south of Bologna. Everybody will just stay within their own shores and it could end up being quite a good summer for some businesses. People will be desperate to go anywhere they can.
How many new infections are happening in the UK?
Agreed he's very very good
He has a way of phrasing things so he seems both honest and reasonable, reminds me of Blair in that respect.
Heh, it's going to feck us up for a while, but it's probably the lesser of two evils here.
It's a superb scheme. I can't even imagine the carnage otherwise.
Businesses can expect a big increase on their tax for the foreseeable, but can't complain when some have been saved millions in wages and redundancies.