SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

Walrus said:
One of my current concerns is that I am currently far, far more unfit than I was a month ago. My regular sources of exercise have been taken away, and whilst I have been trying to compensate - going for a jog or a walk every day and spending a bit of time on my rowing machine (turned out to be a shrewd purchase a few months ago!) doesnt compare to what I normally do and enjoy.

Basically, and without expecting a real answer, it would be interesting to see the correlation (if any) between general fitness levels, and COVID severity. A month ago, it wouldnt have surprised me if I had already caught it and just not noticed, whereas now I feel like it would be a much bigger deal. Now, I am still young enough that I wouldnt consider myself as "vulnerable", but on a mass scale I wonder if taking away everyone's regular sources of exercise counteracts some of the benefits of the lockdown/social distancing.
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How much were you exercising before
 
Hephaestus said:
Raab in charge during a crisis... Great stuff.

Edit: Just seen he's only chairing meetings, Boris remains in charge even though he's in a hospital.
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You think it's much better with Borris?
 
UnrelatedPsuedo said:
How much were you exercising before
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Its less about me personally and more about the general level of health in the country. Personally I played football a couple of times a week, cycled to work and did kickboxing once a week. Again though, more just piques my interest that if the general population arent able to stay as active, fit and healthy as normally, then surely that makes people (in a very broad sense) more vulnerable to higher severity of the virus?
 
Anustart89 said:
In Sweden, the decision to attempt resuscitation or not lies completely with the medically trained people treating the patient. The patient, or their closest relatives, must be informed but agreement with the decision is not necessary. Also, there's a difference between there 'being risks' and there being a near certainty for a very low quality of life after a resuscitation attempt, which would be the case here.

Essentially, the fact that he was asked his opinion on resuscitation doesn't necessarily mean that he actually had a say in the matter. It was more likely asked to gauge whether they would have to explain to the man why they would be going against his wishes or if they were in agreement with regards to the decision that was actually made.

I do think that the way the tweet put it (asked to sign a DNR) comes across as very harsh though.

Obviously, this is based on the legal framework being similar to Sweden's.
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It's not vastly different in the UK - there was a landmark case about 10 years ago which was based on the fact that the patient and family hadn't been consulted. The patient (in her 60s) had terminal lung cancer and had been admitted after sustaining a cervical fracture in an RTA, so it was a very different set of circumstances.

I don't know anything about how you approach the medical care of very old people in your country - hopefully it's better than in the UK!
 
Drifter said:
Encourage many to do what exactly.
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'Encouraging' doesn't have to mean prompting somebody to act, in this case, I meant she spoke wisely and at times profoundly. Many, especially the elderly will have found that 'encouraging' and morale boosting.
 
I’m no fan of the royals but you’ve got to be pretty damned ignorant to ask why the queen is speaking at a time like this for feck sake.
 
Josep Dowling said:
It has nothing to do with her age, just don’t see how a speech from the Queen would inspire anyone. The Royals have no relevance to real life, they’re just a tourist attraction.
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Fortunately you're in the minority and obviously have an issue with the Queen hence calling her an old bag.

Makes everything you say, and your opinion, subjective bollocks.
 
Josep Dowling said:
It has nothing to do with her age, just don’t see how a speech from the Queen would inspire anyone. The Royals have no relevance to real life, they’re just a tourist attraction.
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If you want to discuss the relevance of the royals then take it to another thread. Some people like her and some people don't but inflammatory posting can lead to warnings and the like so please take it elsewhere.
 
Josep Dowling said:
It has nothing to do with her age, just don’t see how a speech from the Queen would inspire anyone. The Royals have no relevance to real life, they’re just a tourist attraction.
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Lots of people, particularly the elderly, would have found her speech re-assuring and taken something from it.
I really couldn't care less about the Royals but not sure why so many people seem so intent on dismissing this speech tonight.
 
TheReligion said:
Fortunately you're in the minority and obviously have an issue with the Queen hence calling her an old bag.

Makes everything you say, and your opinion, subjective bollocks.
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There are many who don’t like the Royals but due to the media spin its constantly portrayed that everyone loves them. So it isn’t subjective bollocks at all.
 
17 Van der Gouw said:
'Encouraging' doesn't have to mean prompting somebody to act, in this case, I meant she spoke wisely and at times profoundly. Many, especially the elderly will have found that 'encouraging' and morale boosting.
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Yes, I've never been a Royalist, but the fact that she makes so few public speeches makes it significant when she decides she wants to speak to the nation. The vast majority of Brits have no recollection of her not being the monarch, she's a constant whereas politicians come and go like buses. She's also dignified, something that's sadly lacking as far as political leaders are concerned.
 
Josep Dowling said:
There are many who don’t like the Royals but due to the media spin its constantly portrayed that everyone loves them. So it isn’t subjective bollocks at all.
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I'm not talking about many I'm talking about you. Your opening gambit was to be derogatory about her. Your opinion is subjective and clearly skewed as you don't like her. That makes what you say emotive bollocks.
 
Grinner said:
If you want to discuss the relevance of the royals then take it to another thread. Some people like her and some people don't but inflammatory posting can lead to warnings and the like so please take it elsewhere.
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Fair point.
 
SteveJ said:
It's a bit odd that Trump hasn't done his usual 'My great friend the UK Prime Minister' stuff recently, especially as Johnson's been ill. Wonder if there's been a disagreement between them?
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The Huawei deal soured a lot of relations.
 
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