Depends if the work you do is classed as “essential”. If not, I wouldn’t go in. Your health comes first.
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Depends if the work you do is classed as “essential”. If not, I wouldn’t go in. Your health comes first.
I get that, but I think Alan Johnson is long retired and just genuinely saying what he thinks is right, which is good.
it’s kinda remarkable/weird that Japan has come through relatively unscathed so far. It has an ageing population too, close proximity to China. It’s strange.
yeah that’s true also. Always liked him.
I posted after that they work on cars for NHS staff so it's currently a loophole.
They are also being deliberately vague about pay and work, so my gf is going in tomorrow for some meds she has delivered there and to question them on the plans, then I guess we'll have to start looking into legalities if it all goes wrong. Not that I expect much help on that front.
Do you live in a box with no windows, do you not have any exclusive outside spaces?
We can all come up with excuses to be outside, but making out like you’re on an inner cabin on a quarantined cruise liner is a bit bizarre.
Thanks for the link
It made me think of this Jor El quote from years ago, quite inspiring!
Could you not just tell your boss that somebody you live with has a cough?
Is this taking things too far?
If the Taiwanese government can do this now, you can bet that they'll have had the capability before the outbreak.
Is this level of government oversight worth the benefits?
A threadban might be useful?
Well if everything was to just go back to the exact same as before it would be shocking, very disappointing and a massive missed opportunity on all fronts. It would show that maybe we are destined to repeat mistakes and not learn, change for the better and develop globally as human beings.
I think I've gone full hippie..
I am still so confused as to why people are making such a big deal about Boris' speech? Has anything actually changed from the rules before?
If you can still go out but we're abusing that opportunity before, you will still do it as it can't be known if you've been out only once or if you are going shopping etc.
People can still go to other people's homes if both parties are in agreement.
It's all a self imposed set of rules we should follow but I don't see now why those that were ignoring it will all of a sudden change
If you can still go out but we're abusing that opportunity before, you will still do it as it can't be known if you've been out only once or if you are going shopping etc.
People can still go to other people's homes if both parties are in agreement.
It's all a self imposed set of rules we should follow but I don't see now why those that were ignoring it will all of a sudden change
A news story along these lines was on about this tonight. Someone entering a country from abroad would be put in quarantine for 14 days. Would have to give their phone number ( which would be gps tracked) and wasn't allowed to leave the quarantine.
Thanks for the link
It made me think of this Jor El quote from years ago, quite inspiring!
Hopefully we will get over this soon - you have think of some positiveness to counter balance all the terrible things happening around us, Wish everyone safe and healthy outcomes.
They aren't testing people, or at least they aren't testing enough people. Politicians too worried about losing Olympics and the economy and all that. Mental stuff.
The authorities have power to impose charges now but..
i really hope there are some systemic changes that create some kind of positive legacy from this whole horrible situation. But I can’t help but be a bit pessimistic about it. People we’re idiots prior to this, during this and I’m sure they will still be after. If it brings the end of populism that would be a start.
Christ. Apparently our government asked o2 for data to get an idea of how the self-quarantine was going. I don't know if it's true and it's obviously not on that level. I'm amazed any gov has the resources and organisation to be able to pull it off to be honest, unless of course it was already in place like you infer.
But they can only really do it for groups of more than 2 unless they can prove they are 1 household.
- They won't know if I am out on my one and only bit of exercise. I could go multiple times and say it's my first (unless stopped by the same guy). I could equally go out the whole day (but still keep my distance from people by going hiking or something)
- People can still go to other people's homes if both agree. They can meet in supermarkets as well I'm sure for mini meet ups
- People can still hoard by going to multiple supermarkets/stores to buy essentials
I am not saying I do these things but if you were ignoring the old rules, then this does absolutely nothing unless you always went out with more than 2 people etc.
Thanks Darkhorsez, all the best to you too.
Are you against such a measure?
Maybe we all need to push for more after this, and not just hope things change.
I guess we've got to get through these next challenging weeks and months ahead first.
I'm not against the data collection. That makes sense here.
Tracking your phone live and knocking on your door if it dies I'm against though, because I can't imagine it'd stop there.
As is often the case when it comes to governments, the problem is more the potential abuse and the path you start going down. Once the doors are opened it usually leads to more being opened, not closing it once you're done.
Like a really long tunnel full of doors and they open one, push you through and you're a foot deeper in feces.
I see your point, am guessing it will keep more people at home but, with the fear of fines etc.
More unessential shops being closed too the next phase will probably be total lockdown I feel, it’s the drip feeding measures they’re taking.
Windows don't cut it and I'm on a first floor boxed in flat, so no garden (or balcony).
I've happily given up pretty much everything I love doing in my day to day life without any fuss. Playing football, going down the pub, travelling (was meant to be in Budapest right now and had a birthday trip to Alicante planned next month) mass gatherings at a weekend (be it beach, clubbing whatever), even seeing my best mate and goddaughter (which is particularly tough) so I don't think I'm asking a lot to be granted 1 hour out of 24 to get some fresh air in the countryside to mentally reset and distract myself from all this.
Unfortunately it's a moot point as people will take the piss so I imagine the Pro full house arrest crew will get their wish by this time next week at the latest.
Seems the UK is well more ahead in trying to flatten the curve than Australia. We have closed bars, restaurants and gyms but can still get take away and PT working as usual and most people working in the city.
A lot of UK residents are basically stuff over here though. UAE are not letting people transit through for over 2 weeks starting from today, Thailand you need a covid-19 negative test result and certificate to fly which is difficult to acquire especially in a short time frame, mass cancellations on flights from majority of airlines. I know friends who have paid upwards of $8,000 for a one way flight, others who have booked 3 seperate flights for them all to be cancelled, others have given their details to the embassy to be put on a list to fly home at the earliest opportunity. Quite a crazy situation really.
A lot of UK residents are basically stuff over here though. UAE are not letting people transit through for over 2 weeks starting from today, Thailand you need a covid-19 negative test result and certificate to fly which is difficult to acquire especially in a short time frame, mass cancellations on flights from majority of airlines. I know friends who have paid upwards of $8,000 for a one way flight, others who have booked 3 seperate flights for them all to be cancelled, others have given their details to the embassy to be put on a list to fly home at the earliest opportunity. Quite a crazy situation really.
Especially for weeks, potentially months at a time.
Fair enough if you've got a garden, but many haven't. Some families will have multiple kids in a flat ffs (and neighbours below them...).
We live in a house with a small courtyard, but our 7 year old boy would be going literally mental without a proper run out every day. Insane energy levels. He literally doesn't sleep properly when he's had a few days without solid outdoor exercise.
And before any fecking PE Teachers wade in, yeah, doing jumping jacks, squat thrusts etc is obviously better than nothing, I get that. But if dog walkers are allowed outside, then kids should be getting a run out for a time also.
Affluent, likeminded ones?
When your kids start shitting on the floor you might be able to argue for it.
Otherwise, it's not really essential. You're safer indoors.
Reading that thread is scary. It really seems to hit different people very differently, but it's clearly not 'just' a Flu virus.
The unpredictability of each case is really unnerving.
Man that's crazy. Would be interested to know his results of the second test.
Yeah it may have an impact on some but again, those that were happy to ignore it first time, will most likely do the same again.
Yeah non essential shops closing is good but I felt that was reactive - a lot already did. But guess he needed to make it clear for those that continued.
I do agree that this is most likely a step towards a bigger lockdown but again, I have no idea how he can enforce it. He can say you are only allowed shopping/pharmacy but people can still take the piss with that.
Wtf?
Those that are asking for a stronger lockdown, what would you actually like to be done?
Is it the hour of exercise that is the problem? Because what is to stop people saying they are walking to the supermarket instead?
If people decide to be fecking idiots about it there isn't really much you can do.
Is it the hour of exercise that is the problem? Because what is to stop people saying they are walking to the supermarket instead?
If people decide to be fecking idiots about it there isn't really much you can do.