99% of us. The mortality rate will be around 0.5. Maybe lower. There's probably 10 times the amount of people have had it or have got it than official cases show.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
- Thread starter Don't Kill Bill
- Start date
Texas Lt. Gov: Senior Citizens Willing to Die to Save Economy for Grandkids
Dan Patrick’s claim that grandparents are willing to sacrifice their lives to get the economy going again comes as Trump suggests he may scrap restrictions in a matter of weeks.
Dan Patrick’s claim that grandparents are willing to sacrifice their lives to get the economy going again comes as Trump suggests he may scrap restrictions in a matter of weeks.
Are you armchair theorizing/ballparking random figures or do you have sources?
I'm using South Korea as the best source. They have done the most testing of any country and has a mortality rate of 0.6. South Korea is probably the best example of how to manage the coronavirus.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ny...oronavirus-south-korea-flatten-curve.amp.html
A la America post 9/11...
Indestructible...
Last edited:
It says their case fatality is over 1%? Which is what I remember reading as well (1.24?). Also, a big concern has always been the high percentage of people it renders to require to breath through machines. If you overrun your ICU care, which happened in Italy and seems to be starting to happen in here as well already, your fatality rate jumps through the roof. [P. S. the asymptotic proportion of those affected is estimated to be around 20%].
Last edited:
Love the Cuomo brothers clowning on each other - in these hard times, some levity is greatly appreciated!
looks like those clowns on cnn did it again. what a bunch of clowns.
China has come relatively unscathed so far (save Wuhan province).
I’m not British so not a Tory but I do consider myself conservative politically...go on, what have you got? Didn’t expect that did you? Almost like you can’t pigeonhole everyone...
You’re having an absolute nightmare on here, do you know how forums work?
Note to self "do not post when drinking"
This is a good article ...
http://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200323-coronavirus-will-hot-weather-kill-covid-19
http://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200323-coronavirus-will-hot-weather-kill-covid-19
Running marathons is one of the last things somebody should do if they want to be considered healthy. Fit, sure. Healthy, no.
It's silly how that's used to imply somebody is inherently healthy, not to mention how it neglects every other variable in their life that an observer can't possibly account for.
How is this possible?
[/QUOTE]
Other than common sense, what is stopping you going to someone's home if they invite you? The police isn't outside each home clocking who lives there and doesn't. They don't have the right (at least right now) to go into people's homes and make sure
Of course he says that but you can't stop people living in a block of flats going into each others flats if they want for example
Other than common sense, what is stopping you going to someone's home if they invite you? The police isn't outside each home clocking who lives there and doesn't. They don't have the right (at least right now) to go into people's homes and make sure
Of course he says that but you can't stop people living in a block of flats going into each others flats if they want for example
Of course it’s possible to do it and not get caught. The point is people are being explicitly told not to.
I agree and that is, at least for now it seems, all he can do. But he said nothing new in that speech that wasn't said already (except the 2 people limit). I don't get why people are acting as if it's a lockdown different to before.
It was meant to be only key workers and key business' working. You were meant to limit going out once, you were meant to only buy essentials and you were meant to not mingle with others.
Japan have tested approximately 16,000 people. That's why they've come through unscathed.
I assume due to some misguided attempt to keep the Olympics this summer.
Agreed. I've never voted for the Tories, never will. I hate what they have done to this country and what they're still doing. I thought the measures came a bit late. But...
What was wrong with his speech yesterday? Nothing for me. I also think, whatever criticisms I have of the policies, he is clearly being guided by his scientific and medical staff as to what to do. They are all under immense pressure and stress currently. Making the decisions to shut down entire sectors, tell everyone they have to stay home...is not easy.
Last edited:
I'm with you on this. People are going to revert to type.
Because the police now have the power to fine people and disperse gatherings of more than 2 people. Also the shutting down of all shops except food and medical. The order for the closing of places of worship and libraries. There's a lot different.
Just saw that Elon Musk has manufactured/delivered 1000 ventilators to the Californian health system - fair play that man.
Mine arrived yesterday, big Samsung American one. It doesn’t work and the profile has blocked me and the other people that have tried to contact them. I’ve now got no fridge freezer. Good job our baby is still on formula.
Hope you bought new and don’t get scammed like me!
Agree with all of this, it’s too late but at least they have ditched this ‘herd immunity’ nonsense, and this is from someone who hates Johnson.
How much should traffic on the underground have reduced?
Because they realised the herd immunity nonsense was going to destroy them and their party.
If there was no backlash from experts/criticism, they would've happily continued with their plan.
A lack of testing kits has also hindered Ireland's attempts to scale up to maximum test capacity.
Thank you very much, very helpful!
To be honest, this isn't my area of expertise so I couldn't necessarily reply with a degree of certainty. Blood groups can affect your response to infections (for example, O tends to be protected vs the most severe forms of malaria (as does duffy, another subsection of blood groups), while people with blood group A do get more severe malaria). I assume it is something to do with surface proteins and receptors expressed on the blood cells.
So it could very well be the case. I'm currently trying to spend my free time relaxing before the inevitable onslaught/ reading up on Covid19/ trying to refresh my memory on ventilator settings....so I'll see if I can find the papers on blood group!
I asked him again yesterday actually and apparently he hasn't been able to get hold of his GP who is supposed to organise the blood test, and even if/when he does get it apparently the results will take up to 8 weeks to come back! Shambles.
Agree with your second paragraph here of course but there’s nothing “unhealthy” about a well trained individual running a marathon, nothing whatsoever.
Thanks, I am off to work then.
If people in the UK are saying "well, we can still do this and that, go here and there because no-one will know", the whole exercise is pointless. The British government is asking people to be responsible adults and work together.
Personally, I think far more enforcement is needed - it can be done, you have roadblocks as we have here in Italy, you have to complete paperwork if you want to leave the house. You might not be stopped by a police officer, but if you are and you're breaking the quarantine rules (or you don't have the paperwork), you're in trouble.
If Brits don't do as they're being told to do, you might find yourself as we are here in terms of the restrictions placed upon us. We can no longer leave the boundaries of our very small village, unless we have a dire emergency. This makes life quite difficult for people in more isolated areas - our own municipality is just over 1100 people, who are now having to get everything at one very small shop.
@Noc-Z, this may help on your question about completion of houses sales/purchases. If everyone in the chain exchanges, at least there would be certainty about things not falling through.
Personally, I think far more enforcement is needed - it can be done, you have roadblocks as we have here in Italy, you have to complete paperwork if you want to leave the house. You might not be stopped by a police officer, but if you are and you're breaking the quarantine rules (or you don't have the paperwork), you're in trouble.
If Brits don't do as they're being told to do, you might find yourself as we are here in terms of the restrictions placed upon us. We can no longer leave the boundaries of our very small village, unless we have a dire emergency. This makes life quite difficult for people in more isolated areas - our own municipality is just over 1100 people, who are now having to get everything at one very small shop.
@Noc-Z, this may help on your question about completion of houses sales/purchases. If everyone in the chain exchanges, at least there would be certainty about things not falling through.
https://www.estateagenttoday.co.uk/...ssential-under-the-lockdown?source=newsticker
Probably right, I am cynical though and think the tories would never do anything benevolent that isn’t for them.
I think we need the written permits thing. You fill it out before you leave the hose and the police check the details if they stop you. Morons are going to take the piss. It's inevitable.