SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

Working in a school. Most students havent shown up however we have some in. Of all the the children who are in today not one of their parents/carers are key workers. So basically they're using us as a glorified day care centre because they don't want their kids at home all day.

The schools should be all closed.

I really fear for the UK, it’s going to be a terrible couple of months ahead.
 
Surely aggressive testing is the key to returning to any kind of normality?

Healthcare workers who've already tested positive / have had it - running home visit tests - those who test positive / have it had it can return to work outside the home etc.

Of course.
 
Working in a school. Most students havent shown up however we have some in. Of all the the children who are in today not one of their parents/carers are key workers. So basically they're using us as a glorified day care centre because they don't want their kids at home all day.

well your school shouldn't be teaching non key worker kids, if that's what it's designed for.
 
Working in a school. Most students havent shown up however we have some in. Of all the the children who are in today not one of their parents/carers are key workers. So basically they're using us as a glorified day care centre because they don't want their kids at home all day.

I assume they're just dropping them off so you're stuck with them until they return? Hopefully they give schools the remit to fine these people akin to absence so you can at least threaten it.

I can foresee teachers having to deal with aggressive parents where their company is saying they're key workers and schools seeing through the bullshit.
 
Working in a school. Most students haven't shown up however we have some in. Of all the the children who are in today not one of their parents/carers are key workers. So basically they're using us as a glorified day care centre because they don't want their kids at home all day.

Surely there must be some sort requirements of proof of the fact the parents are key workers?
 
Matt Hancock doesn't do a lot right but he's at least out there essentially calling people selfish pricks who are spreading the virus. Should have been done weeks ago though.

He does nothing right.

He's having a go at people now for following the ambiguous casual advice the government has been propagating.

Q. Why have you idiots been going on the tube, going to the pub and going to restaurants and coffee shops?

A. Because we have to get to work because our corporation has told us we're not allowed to work from home yet and because the pubs, restaurants and coffee shops were still open so surely it's OK to use them if we decide we are safe?
 
Working in a school. Most students havent shown up however we have some in. Of all the the children who are in today not one of their parents/carers are key workers. So basically they're using us as a glorified day care centre because they don't want their kids at home all day.

Why has your SLT allowed them to enter the building? The government guidance in relation to key workers was a debacle; schools had less than two days to carry out a two week job, ultimately.

Calls were taken on Thursday and Friday and our Partnership has been very strict on who gets a place and who doesn’t. It’s been an awful (and humbling) process. I’m not in the buildings today; we’re on a fortnightly rota. For this to work, though, schools like yours need to be putting the foot down and ensuring that pupils at school are there because they must be there.
 
Working in a school. Most students havent shown up however we have some in. Of all the the children who are in today not one of their parents/carers are key workers. So basically they're using us as a glorified day care centre because they don't want their kids at home all day.
Why were those kids allowed in if parents not key workers?
 
Why were those kids allowed in if parents not key workers?

Not much we can do when they're just outside the school when we open.

The headteacher is seeking advice but he's implying we have a duty to care for any child that shows up.
 



There should be ZERO unattributed comments at this point.

Everything should be on record to create a bona fide information trail, so people can be held accountable once this is all done.

Keunssberg and peston are the worst for it, but the entire lobby journalist pool are failing to understand that this is not just a story anymore, this is a historic event.
 
Not much we can do when they're just outside the school when we open.

The headteacher is seeking advice but he's implying we have a duty to care for any child that shows up.
He may have a duty of care to take them into the school, but he should then be calling the parents and telling them to come and pick them up.
 
https://www.asthma.org.uk/advice/triggers/coronavirus-covid-19/

Sorry if posted already but advice from asthma UK. I'm on symbicort 400/12 and have today started 12 weeks isolation

Hi @Robbo's Shoulder - So, as a relatively mild asthma sufferer who just uses Ventolin, I needn't bunker down yet? Sorry, I know you're probably not able to answer properly but it's hard getting definitive answers.

I don;t know whether it's subliminal stress / anxiety from the daily bombardment of bad news but my chest has been rubbish all week with asthma symptoms.
 
First day back at work after annual leave. Working in Adult Social Services in an LD department.

I'm wondering how families across the country are going to cope with the closures of day services whilst this is ongoing.
 
Hi @Robbo's Shoulder - So, as a relatively mild asthma sufferer who just uses Ventolin, I needn't bunker down yet? Sorry, I know you're probably not able to answer properly but it's hard getting definitive answers.

I don;t know whether it's subliminal stress / anxiety from the daily bombardment of bad news but my chest has been rubbish all week with asthma symptoms.

People on ventolin have definitely not been given any specific instructions, so as of now are not considered to be in the high risk group.

Source - me talking to AsthmaUK
 
He may have a duty of care to take them into the school, but he should then be calling the parents and telling them to come and pick them up.

I warned two weeks ago that schools were clueless on protocol thanks to lack of communication from the authorities. He should be calling the parents, but what if they refuse or simply don't answer?

There's still no strict guidance so people are taking the piss as usual. As much as I hate it, and it will ruin me financially, but things simply won't change without draconian measures.
 
Hi @Robbo's Shoulder - So, as a relatively mild asthma sufferer who just uses Ventolin, I needn't bunker down yet? Sorry, I know you're probably not able to answer properly but it's hard getting definitive answers.

I don;t know whether it's subliminal stress / anxiety from the daily bombardment of bad news but my chest has been rubbish all week with asthma symptoms.
I haven't a clue mate sorry, I phoned my gp's for further advice when I saw the article but they just said follow government advice which is very sketchy so no help there whatsoever tbh. I've just decided to isolate as my inhaler was listen in the dosage I take.
I've been similar with my chest the last week, I do think it is the stress and worry due to a lack of information which seems to be different depending on where you read. I'm just following asthma UK guidance now and at least my decision is made.
 
A friend of mine who works at Dyson has just tweeted to say that they are halting all normal production to make ventilators for the NHS.

Apparently they have made several prototypes already which have all passed clinical inspection.
 
It's better to have a lockdown now and suffer a bit of economic misery to a huge disaster later.
 
There should be ZERO unattributed comments at this point.

Everything should be on record to create a bona fide information trail, so people can be held accountable once this is all done.

Keunssberg and peston are the worst for it, but the entire lobby journalist pool are failing to understand that this is not just a story anymore, this is a historic event.
*applauds*
 
Working in a school. Most students havent shown up however we have some in. Of all the the children who are in today not one of their parents/carers are key workers. So basically they're using us as a glorified day care centre because they don't want their kids at home all day.
Really?

Wife works at local school, head is speaking to every parent who turns up and if not happy with reply, sending them home. End of. Also asking them if they've told THEIR kids about behaving and doing exactly what they're told

There are less teachers/TAs but still need to maintain ratio and the fewer the school takes, the easier it is to social distance them. Hence head has said "my way or go home". As it should be
 
A friend of mine who works at Dyson has just tweeted to say that they are halting all normal production to make ventilators for the NHS.

Apparently they have made several prototypes already which have all passed clinical inspection.
Same with Gtech, nice to see these companies coming to together and helping. Link
 
My Lord, that photo above feom London tube really is horrifying. How on Earth is that even possible. My Motherland is well and truly a 3rd world country, but we have strict restrictions in place. Schools closed sonce last week, no public transportation allowed, no flughts, nothing. Major cities are in a lockdown.
 
There should be ZERO unattributed comments at this point.

Everything should be on record to create a bona fide information trail, so people can be held accountable once this is all done.

Keunssberg and peston are the worst for it, but the entire lobby journalist pool are failing to understand that this is not just a story anymore, this is a historic event.
It’s bad that most people on here have said for around 2-3 weeks we should be on lockdown, it needs to happen right now.
 
People on ventolin have definitely not been given any specific instructions, so as of now are not considered to be in the high risk group.

Source - me talking to AsthmaUK

Thanks Ekkie, I've never really felt wary of anything like this and my chest has picked a really crappy time to start worrying me.

I haven't a clue mate sorry, I phoned my gp's for further advice when I saw the article but they just said follow government advice which is very sketchy so no help there whatsoever tbh. I've just decided to isolate as my inhaler was listen in the dosage I take.
I've been similar with my chest the last week, I do think it is the stress and worry due to a lack of information which seems to be different depending on where you read. I'm just following asthma UK guidance now and at least my decision is made.

No worries, I have been totally unable to get through to my GP since last Thursday and haven't wanted to trouble 111. It's been hard to get any proper info on where I stood.
 
Is there any hope the UK's numbers won't escalate to be as bad as Italy and Spain?

They are already miles off.

The UK broke 200 cases 17 days ago and will probably announce 6xxx cases today. After 17 days Italy had 12,500, Spain had 21,500.

Things need to take a serious turn South for the UK to catch either of them.
 
A friend of mine who works at Dyson has just tweeted to say that they are halting all normal production to make ventilators for the NHS.

Apparently they have made several prototypes already which have all passed clinical inspection.

So I guess the capitalists have finally recognised that they need a healthy, functioning society to consume their products.I feel like there might be a larger message here.
 
The testing protocols are different. Direct comparisons between the UK and elsewhere are meaningless.

The numbers are but the trends are still representative. The UK has a far flatter trendline than Italy and Spain did at the same point.