SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

The amount of idiots who are continuing to find ways to congregate is getting irritating now.

Spain has an overwhelming number of cases? That's fine, go on holiday to Spain. Travel ban? That's fine, just go to the pub. Pubs closed? That's fine, just go to the beach or community park.

These people are like toddlers who keep trying to walk up to an burning stove no matter how many times you move them away from it.
 
marktan said:
Good luck!

How many patients do you think your hospital can manage before it starts to get overwhelmed?
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Probably about 30 intubated patients and about 50 beds for others. But if it’s overwhelmed then we’ll just have to put them where we can. The preparation is assuring and I’m confident with the team we have. Even if there’s not much happening at the moment I feel it’s the calm before the storm.
 
Mr Pigeon said:
The amount of idiots who are continuing to find ways to congregate is getting irritating now.

Spain has an overwhelming number of cases? That's fine, go on holiday to Spain. Travel ban? That's fine, just go to the pub. Pubs closed? That's fine, just go to the beach or community park.

These people are like toddlers who keep trying to walk up to an burning stove no matter how many times you move them away from it.
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Everyone banned from going outside? That's fine, just dig a tunnel to your friends house.
 
I_live_cement said:
Not saying I buy the whole religious angle but could this be an opportunistic time to implement their goals?

What I'm really asking is; are there any verifiable links between this:

http://news.mit.edu/2019/storing-vaccine-history-skin-1218

and this:

https://id2020.org

...or is it all conspiracy bollocks?
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DavelinaJolie said:
I deleted my post re: ID2020 because I don't think it's worth that nonsense in here.
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Thread title says no tinfoil hate silliness peeps.
 
Zlatan 7 said:
If he’s been tested positive now, surely he couldn’t have had it a month ago too.

How long does it stay with you or in you before you show a symptom? I thought it was four days
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He was in the Maldives for a week. So he could have it before he came most probably. It's about 10 to 14 days you get the symptoms. They are also trying to find out who was in close proximity with him in the resort and would either quarantine the people or test them if they show any symptoms. I think they checked him in China because he came from abroad.
 
Mr Pigeon said:
That'll be the next thing, and you just know it. Maybe not tunnels but hot air balloons or something...
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Not trying to escape quarantine by turning your home into an Up-style flying balloon house would be letting the virus/gravity win.
 
Spain already at nearly 400 deaths today, they will be getting 1,000 a day before long. This is getting well out of control.
 
Sarni said:
Spain already at nearly 400 deaths today, they will be getting 1,000 a day before long. This is getting well out of control.
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We're about to extend the lockdown for another two weeks until the 12th April. I expect that in that time, the restrictions will become significantly more severe.

Despite the horrific numbers coming out of Italy, in percentage terms the growth does appear to be slowing (I haven't seen today's numbers).
 
Sarni said:
Spain already at nearly 400 deaths today, they will be getting 1,000 a day before long. This is getting well out of control.
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Any idea what the percentages are per age demographic? Germany has hardly any deaths whilst having loads of cases.
 
Hearing that people have been forcing their way into supermarkets during the hours that were only reserved for elderly customers and NHS staff. Its beyond a joke now and got to the stage where the army should be deployed to stores.
 
Sarni said:
Spain already at nearly 400 deaths today, they will be getting 1,000 a day before long. This is getting well out of control.
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Spain and the US are in huge trouble. Both already adding as many new daily cases as Italy despite having half the total.

The US is explainable because they've only just started testing properly but Spain :wenger:
 
Bus driver infected in Poland and died last night. 43 years old. He was still working until very recently despite feeling ill, apparently been told to come to work regardless by his boss. He may have infected many, many more.
 
Why isn't the US implementing a lockdown? Here in India it's being done and our number of cases are tiny so far.
 
Received two texts from nurses at Wythenshawe hospital today. Place is now filling up with a lot of healthy young people. One is terrified to work.

I am NOT trying to scaremonger but we are about to hit the fan.
 
Varun said:
The government is insisting that's the case while there's already a confirmed case in Pune. It's a load of bollocks.
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One case doesn't mean community transmission has started. A lockdown has been implemented in Pune and Mumbai, and people arriving from abroad are being compulsorily quarantined. All indications are that the virus will be stopped before it reaches the levels in US, Europe.
 
Sweet Square said:
The hysteria people have around Cummings is really something else. They view him as some sort machiavellian Bond villain, where as the reality being he is a late 40's shit poster who got lucky.
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He'll be found out sooner or later. He is deranged.

It feels inevitable a lockdown will happen in the UK, people are still not paying attention to warnings.
 
sammsky1 said:
well then the west will have to dramatically downgrade its standards of "commoditised luxury" if it has to bring manufacturing back into their own nations.
My brain isn't big enough to think through the ramifications of this, if the world decides to penalise China for this.
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Why are you using emotive and irrelevant words such as `penalise` to describe what could be a logical response to the repercussions we are now seeing of shifting key industries overseas? Regardless of whether it is China.

Many people who have never really got into globalisation issues in any knowledgeable way - not referring to you by the way - have been shocked to the core by the over-reliance of developed countries on China. Sending some key industries to another country thereby giving significant numbers of your own people the message that they are redundant has been behind much of the social incohesion and falling living standards for some time now.

Add to that China`s monopoly on some vital products and goods that developed countries certainly have the expertise and workforce to produce themselves and this health emergency - it becomes clearer. So many vital kinds of prescription medicine are made in China for export to our countries. When supply lines are cut then it becomes like russian roulette. That`s only only one of literally hundreds of examples.

China makes key components of multiple types of machinery including essential medical machinery. We have the expertise in our own countries to do that at both design and workforce levels. This isn`t about getting back at China for a virus - this is a much broader issue that goes to the heart of our current socio-economic systems in our countries.
 
This is uh worrying..

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Utter madness. Government needs to take action now as the situation in the supermarkets is getting worse.

 
Germany not undercounting deaths



Said before that they have a huge amount of testing (300k) and probably found the majority who have it at this early time but countries with an advanced outbreak may have many 10s of thousands more if not 100k+ out there in reality. Germany is not the tourist hopspot of France or Spain or Italy and I'd probably put the big european countries in this order of real outbreak Italy/Spain, France, UK/Germany. Germany have much better healthcare but the scale in reality is not inline with France or Spain and behind UK. If UK/France/Spain had tested as much you'd find the cases dwarf Germany and it would put the death toll in more context.

Germany look like some other countries from a few weeks ago with under a hundred deaths but just with a huge amount of testing. Good news for them is people have a bigger reason to self isolate if they know they have it and have brought in measures at the same time as other countries which have much worse and earlier outbreaks. We'll see if they somewhat catch up or manage to gently break the chain.
 
Fergies Gum said:
Utter madness. Government needs to take action now as the situation in the supermarkets is getting worse.

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Yep and no delivery slots for the next 3 weeks on any supermarket as far as I can see. So I'll have to join them in a couple of weeks unfortunately.

Having said that though, my sister who works at Aldi has been sent home early today as they're quiet apparently :confused:
 
Head of the NHS shaming people for panic buying whilst he is busy panic buying ventilators, masks, tests etc. Pot meet kettle. white text applies
 
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dwd said:
Yep and no delivery slots for the next 3 weeks on any supermarket as far as I can see. So I'll have to join them in a couple of weeks unfortunately.

Having said that though, my sister who works at Aldi has been sent home early today as they're quiet apparently :confused:
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Prime Now have slots, keep checking repeatedly - they only appear briefly. My parents were repatriated, and when they got home the fridge freezer circuit had tripped. They have managed to place order with Prime Now.
 
Apart from stating the obvious, what has caused all the panic in England? The press? TV?
It is completely normal in Japan.
 
Meh, American senators shaming people for panicking at a bad flu, whilst they are panic selling their stocks.
 
Habs said:
From what I’ve seen so far, most of the people passing away from this are indeed elderly, have co-morbidities however that is far from the whole story. But what’s scary is how quickly they deteriorate, this is not a ‘flu’ that’s for sure.

Young people, with no previous health conditions are also getting this and becoming seriously ill that they require ventilators.
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I`d be interested to know the percentage of those young people who smoke, vape, smoke marijuana and hash, and use shisha pipes.
I heard but can`t confirm it that the Netherlands has such cases of young people - both the legalised drug culture there and Muslim immigrants/their children who use shisha pipes might explain that.
There were also cases last year in the US of vapers becoming very sick - again can`t give the reference but I read a couple of news stories from the US.
 
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