SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

India government has been very proactive in last few days as compared to western countries . It’s nice to see them being proactive when the numbers are in few hundreds only. Couple of good steps by government so far -
1. 50% states have been in complete lockdown since yesterday.
2. All trains and buses between states are cancelled effective today.
Hopefully, people follow the government rules and stay indoors.
 
Government have updated their advice for the highest risk group (which I’m in). Now even more restrictive.

Now advising against all face-to-face contact outside of your own home. No walks. Exercise at home. Minimum 12 weeks.

 
There's no need to get to the supermarkets that early and queue up like morons. Ive been going at regular times and I've managed to get mostly everything i need. People in this country are complete idiots.
 
Bus driver infected in Poland and died last night. 43 years old. He was still working until very recently despite feeling ill, apparently been told to come to work regardless by his boss. He may have infected many, many more.

Hopefully the family sues the shit out of him.
 
If it came to it I would use the 24hr Tesco during the night, shoould be quiet and it also means they will be restocking shelves during the night as well.

Ive just ordered hand wash and toilet roll from Tesco and im collecting it on the 8th April. Should have enough to do until then, if we arent in lockdown at this stage.
I would double check before going on a night, I'm sure they have changed their opening times for all UK stores to close at 10pm.
 
There's no need to get to the supermarkets that early and queue up like morons. Ive been going at regular times and I've managed to get mostly everything i need. People in this country are complete idiots.

I've found its still possible to get a full shop in if you are willing to compromise a bit on what you would usually get and try a different or more expensive version. More than enough stuff was in my local ASDA and Lidl to have plenty of meals for the week. Eggs were like gold dust but I can live without them.
 
I just saw the WHO talk about Russia. She said from January the Russians have been quietly been screening passengers and isolating them too. They have been using all methods and not only one. This could be the reason why it's low so far. They have so far tested over 160,000 people and are still testing every day. They are not sure if there is going to be a spike but think it won't be much because from January to here it's enough time to get it under control for them and the more strict they are with the incoming people the better chance they have to control it.
 
Apart from stating the obvious, what has caused all the panic in England? The press? TV?
It is completely normal in Japan.
I already replied to you but just now I`ve seen your location and Fukuyama is in the sticks and not representative of the big cities elsewhere.
I forgot to say in my other post that there was mask rage in Kanagawa Prefecture where two men slugged it out for masks, and the same kinds of people grabbing all the toilet paper also grabbing masks at pharmacies, supermarkets and convenience stores.
 
Is that 11 new deaths for the UK final? If so it would represent a welcome break from following the Italian trajectory who went up from 233 - 366 at the same stage. Probably just an anomaly unfortunately as Spain had a couple of relatively kinder days before big jumps at the same stage.
 
Is that 11 new deaths for the UK final? If so it would represent a welcome break from following the Italian trajectory who went up from 233 - 366 at the same stage. Probably just an anomaly unfortunately as Spain had a couple of relatively kinder days before big jumps at the same stage.
No just Scotland and Wales I think. England delays now, presumably because it’s taking longer to add up!
 
Is that 11 new deaths for the UK final? If so it would represent a welcome break from following the Italian trajectory who went up from 233 - 366 at the same stage. Probably just an anomaly unfortunately as Spain had a couple of relatively kinder days before big jumps at the same stage.

I don't believe England has piled on the doom and gloom yet. Worldmeters or whatever it's called hasn't listed hte new cases yet, just announced deaths.
 

I work for GardaWorld Europe and we're installing a specific security network that spans across 17 countries in Europe. Me and my colleagues keep in touch daily to coordinate our work and talking to them and hearing about the measures taken across Europe it really seems like they aren't taking this serious here in Sweden.

I'm the only one being re-called of all my colleagues so far.
 
I work for GardaWorld Europe and we're installing a specific security network that spans across 17 countries in Europe. Me and my colleagues keep in touch daily to coordinate our work and talking to them and hearing about the measures taken across Europe it really seems like they aren't taking this serious here in Sweden.

I'm the only one being re-called of all my colleagues so far.

That’s the impression I have as well, from across the border. I visited Sweden a couple of months ago, made some new friends, and seeing their posts and activity levels, it seems like there’s an air of "don’t let corona ruin your good time, come to the pub!"
 
They're not panic selling, it's a calculated move. They had insider information and knew when to sell high only to buy back low. Hope them cnuts are persecuted for this.
I know it's probably unfeasable and seen as a curtail of freedoms, but I'd love to see a law that says you can't sell and buy stock in the same company in a calender year.
 
That’s the impression I have as well, from across the border. I visited Sweden a couple of months ago, made some new friends, and seeing their posts and activity levels, it seems like there’s an air of "don’t let corona ruin your good time, come to the pub!"

That's just crazy, selfish even.
 
Why are you using emotive and irrelevant words such as `penalise` to describe what could be a logical response to the repercussions we are now seeing of shifting key industries overseas? Regardless of whether it is China.

Many people who have never really got into globalisation issues in any knowledgeable way - not referring to you by the way - have been shocked to the core by the over-reliance of developed countries on China. Sending some key industries to another country thereby giving significant numbers of your own people the message that they are redundant has been behind much of the social incohesion and falling living standards for some time now.

Add to that China`s monopoly on some vital products and goods that developed countries certainly have the expertise and workforce to produce themselves and this health emergency - it becomes clearer. So many vital kinds of prescription medicine are made in China for export to our countries. When supply lines are cut then it becomes like russian roulette. That`s only only one of literally hundreds of examples.

China makes key components of multiple types of machinery including essential medical machinery. We have the expertise in our own countries to do that at both design and workforce levels. This isn`t about getting back at China for a virus - this is a much broader issue that goes to the heart of our current socio-economic systems in our countries.

Mirrors my own view. Mind you in order to correct this imbalance we, in the West, wI’ll have to accept higher prices for many of our goods for let’s be honest the reason production has been outsourced to countries such as China is lower wages. I’m not sure that we will accept higher prices long term. It never ceases to amaze me how quickly mankind selectively forgets when the pocket gets hit.
 
I live near corner shops takeaways and a park. I've seen lots going to shops with their bags which is understandable however I'm seeing a lot of kids out and about with their mates, on their bikes, kicking footballs. Makes me think why aren't the parents telling their young ones to stay indoors.

The thing is there's a group of people who will blatantly ignore self isolation which makes me think we should have gone into lock down a week ago.

This " oh it's just a flu I'll be fine " malarkey is still in peoples mind.

Unfortunately it's only when we start getting deaths in the 100s/day and Sky report inside a UK ICU that's gone past peak capacity, is is when people will stop and listen.

It's making me so angry.
 
I just saw the WHO talk about Russia. She said from January the Russians have been quietly been screening passengers and isolating them too. They have been using all methods and not only one. This could be the reason why it's low so far. They have so far tested over 160,000 people and are still testing every day. They are not sure if there is going to be a spike but think it won't be much because from January to here it's enough time to get it under control for them and the more strict they are with the incoming people the better chance they have to control it.

There was a video circulating on the net back in late Jan of a Russian airport where many of the staff were dressed in PPE screening passengers coming through. Does make sense.
 
No, it's part of the daily briefing.
He himself didnt do yesterdays and on Friday he was talking about going to see his mother.

He himself had no intention of speaking until Monday. Youll never find out the truth but id bet almost everything on it.

He was hounded yesterday for not speaking
 
The Isle of Man has closed its borders to none residents. Shame our government waited until we have 5 cases before doing so...
 
He himself didnt do yesterdays and on Friday he was talking about going to see his mother.

He himself had no intention of speaking until Monday. Youll never find out the truth but id bet almost everything on it.

He was hounded yesterday for not speaking
That's why he's probably doing it today then.
 
Just reading in La Repubblica that we now can no longer leave our Comunes for anything except urgent health reasons or urgent working needs. This is very restrictive for people like us who live in a very small Comune. At least we have one shop!
 
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"A makeshift hospital has been set up in a conference centre in the capital Madrid, a city that is bearing some of the highest infection rates.

The hospital will be fitted with 5,500 beds, making it the biggest facility of its kind in Europe. Its director, Antonio Zapatero, told El Mundo newspaper that 300 people will be move there this weekend.

Earlier we reported on new figures from Spain, which has now seen over 1,700 disease-related deaths since the coronavirus epidemic began."


From the BBC. Should say "moved". I see many articles on the bbc site have spelling mistakes or broken English.
 


Beyond frustrating


People are dumb. It's not new information, if the government had been clear in it's messaging and implemented the necessary restrictions then things would be a lot better than they are now. If you give people an inch they're going to take a mile, the fact that none of those people are actually breaking the law says it all. They've been allowed to decide for themselves and it's madness when it's a public health concern rather than an individual one.