I suspect the cultural habit of ciao ciao double cheek kiss from unbeknown carriers played a huge part in the early and dramatically quick spreading .
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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I don't know why he said it that way but a virologist at Montpellier CHU said a week ago that it was conceivable that the chinese and italian strains were different, due to the evolutive nature of coronaviruses.
We know about at least two different strains. One named S-Strain and the other L-Strain. I don't know more about it.
I dread to think what's gonna happen in Africa. There is possibility of having thousands and thousand dying everyday
It’s where the testing is mainly being done. You’ve got regions in the north though with a third of people testing positive, but only a small of population being tested. See Piemonte, Marche and Liguria. This is going to get a lot worse before it gets better. Here’s the latest figures by region: http://www.salute.gov.it/imgs/C_17_pagineAree_5351_26_file.pdf
Bookmark this for where the figures are updated daily: http://www.salute.gov.it/portale/nu...iano&id=5351&area=nuovoCoronavirus&menu=vuoto
Went out for a walk with my family earlier and there were a lot of people out walking and jogging today. Seen quite a few people on social media lambasting people going outside, surely there's nothing wrong going out on a walk with people you live with?
The trains were empty this afternoon (West Yorkshire). Normally they'd be packed on a Saturday afternoon with people going/returing from shopping in Leeds or Bradford.
Don’t forget Asia. Countries like India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Vietnam, Philippines etc will not be able to cope if it spreads like wildfire there. Would be worse than Italy.
Trump just blamed China more and said “if we would have had a 2 or 3 month warning on this we could have been more prepared”
That’s when you were calling it a hoax, you orange cnut!
That’s when you were calling it a hoax, you orange cnut!
Fantastic. Ive been reading this back a forth and chuckled at this.
Cant wait for the reply
Welcome to discussing something with an idiot.
Great news
Of course, you're right. I mentioned Africa because that's where I'm at the moment. The world will change forever after this
Uk deaths following Italy almost exactly.
where the feck is the 8000 beds in the private sector?Mods/Staff can we have a tweet and media only version of this thread as well like the Transfer one. Sometimes there are 10+ pages and not enough time to go through it all.
It's key to finding out how this thing started which would be invaluable for developing a vaccine. Also there should be medical records that can be traced, so they don't necessarily need to interview the person.
Trump is a cnut who did not take this seriously. At the same time, China deserves every blame they get. One thing I agree with Trump is that this is the Chinese coronavirus. If they acted like any normal state and didn’t arrest doctors and do a cover-up, the world would not have suffered.
I saw many legit links posted about that story about that doctor, and yet you are pretty sure it's fake news. I don't know why you keep insisting it's a fake news. This is not the first virus that came out of China, and this one looks it will cause more damage outside the China more than to them themselves. It will actually make China even stronger than before by the looks of it. It seems like your anger towards the European goverment is making you ignore the China's fault, which is 100% in this case. I criticised the UK goverment many times here, but I am not sure do you understand how hard is to make a decision to do a full lockdowns in this age.
You remind me of people in football forum who blame the keeper for not making great save after his defender passes the ball to an opposition forward and say that the blame is partly on the keeper who didn't react well. I like you as a poster, but I have no idea why you keep defending China over this.
I'm done with that. I don't indulge much, just some days you're more patient than others.
Was thinking about this in slums across the entire planet. I have no idea how slum dwellers are meant to implement perfect hygiene protocols, social/physical distancing and self isolation.
When Convid19 reaches the huge slums of the Africa, Asia and Latin America, it will spread faster than wildfire, and then move very very quickly into the fancy neighbourhoods and beyond. At that point, no amount of bribery, ass kissing, influence or power will be able to save any person. For once, the 'haves' will really have to help the 'have nots', else they are all doomed.
My only hope is that these people who have had to live their entire lives in unhygienic areas have developed the strongest immune systems on the planet. Its just my hope, and I hope I'm right, else when the final math is done on who died, it will be the poorest of the poor, who had nothing to do with its creation.
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The fake news is doctors being arrested. Not what happened with Li Weilang, which is very well documented.
BUPA, Spire, Nuffield across the UK must add up to quite a few and many rent NHS hospital sites as well, primarily for surgical procedures
I love how Pence keeps throwing up the “15 days to slow the spread” card up like its some kinda cheesy product placement.
Good point, the rich pricks cannot even escape to foreign countries anymore as each countries has now closed its borders (or is in the process to). We all help each other or we all suffer together, rich people will get infected, that's without a doubt too
UK update
As of 9am on 21 March, a total of 72,818 have been tested: 67,800 negative. 5,018 positive. As of 9am, 233 patients who tested positive for coronavirus have sadly died.
So 6k tested from yesterday.
As of 9am on 21 March, a total of 72,818 have been tested: 67,800 negative. 5,018 positive. As of 9am, 233 patients who tested positive for coronavirus have sadly died.
So 6k tested from yesterday.
Insulting another member
Stop being an idiot
Yes. I dread it too. They'll be dying on my doorstep. It's coming and no one can stop it.
I sincerely hope the warmer climate there is not very conducive to the survival of the virus outside a host and thus the infamous R0 rate will be significantly lower. Maybe I'm overly optimistic.
With all that that continent already has to contend with, I can only hope coronavirus doesn't get piled on top.
I have been to China too and have good contacts and have been even to Wuhan a few years back. I have been to Bejjing and a few other cities too in the past. What you are saying is correct. China is fairly decentralised in most things. Even the health and Police are decentralised. Even taxation to some extents. The local governments are fairly powerful in their own way. Yes they all belong to the central party but have various degrees of autonomy. The information I got was this was a local issue where the Wuhan administrations messed things up. When Dr. Li reported this they never took him seriously. He then got together with some other doctors and started discussing this issue and the local police even threatened him.
This went up the chain to Beijing who had heard about this flu in Wuhan and send a team to investigate it. They also found that what Dr. Li had said was true and decided to investigate it further. In January they informed WHO and also wrote in the Lancet medical Journal who in turn informed the British Government about the article. The British government ignored the article. By January the whole World knew about this flu. The World had three months to get ready and most did not get ready and now blame the Chinese for them not being ready.
Viruses would come from all over the world and no one country should be blamed for any virus. All countries need to work together in the face of a common enemy like a pandemic.
It is pointless bashing one country. At least China is trying to help other countries by giving equipment and their doctors to help them.
Why? Patient zero is critical to all this ask any doctor. If you know where it comes from then it helps develop a cure.
I see something like this happening, governements over thrown, complete chaos, civil war in some places. What seemed like a crazy unlikely apocalypse scenario can actually happen.
I would say at that time they didn't believe him and it wasn't until they did the research/testing that they found out he was right that this wasn't just a normal flu out break but something new and far more deadly.
I hope so, it's already above 30°C here and in the next couple of months we'll hit the 40s fairly regularly. We'll find out soon enough
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That only works in horror movies.
I don't really think we can say anything about the mortality rate in Italy as we don't know how many actually infected people there are.
79 new cases in India today, 315 total. Biggest single day jump. Only 16k tests have been done. Dont know what the government is waiting for, we have to go into lockdown asap.