I don't think there's ever been a more stupidly, self-defeatingly deferential people with such a passion for feigned defiance to authority than the British.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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Cannot speak for other faiths/denominations but C of E has cancelled all services. Weddings and Funerals now limited to immediate family only and then maintaining social distancing. Church in our town today conducted its last funeral service today. Only conducting them at the graveside from now on. Not sure whether this latter is C of E policy.
I'd say half the pubs in this town have closed already. Sadly the other half are doing things like £1 a pint to clear their stock. Utter cnuts
You’re creating an argument that isn’t there. I said none of these things nor implied any of these things.
I wasn’t talking about non essential shopping. I meant food shopping, which old people were being criticised for doing in this thread. Being on the street could very well be a consequence of having to go into work, visit family or go food shopping which is why it is stupid to pull photos off twitter showing people in the street and then slating people for “not listening”.
I’ll try and make this clear....I’m not questioning, judging or disregarding governments advice nor advocating for it to be ignored. I have taken issue purely with the way people on here have been criticising people who are out and about to the degree they have been.
Fair enough to the idiots taking a selfie in a pub bragging about how the virus can’t touch them, that’s fair game. But there’s a lot of people who have to be out for a variety of reasons and for some unlike a lot on here they are not able to just lock themselves away and doing it for months on end is not only going to damage certain people financially but also mentally. Which is why I assume the uk government have done this lockdown in slow time and in such a way so it doesn’t appear draconian.
Bullshit.
As a Doctor in the NHS I can tell you that anyone requiring admission to hospital with any sort of respiratory symptoms is being tested now . If you come to the hospital with signs of anything resembling Covid you are going to get a test . The results are taking 4-5 days though at the moment. Liverpool for example has no reagent for testing and all the swabs are being sent to Manchester for testing
I know I'm fortunate. Hope it works out for you pal.Nice. Wish I was in the same position
If it happened over the course of five years it would not be so bad. But the way its going now the health system will be swamped.
I still think a lockdown is better.
This meme is never gonna die, is it?
Mass has been cancelled for several weeks here now in Italy - it's not what we want, but we have to be sensible.
No one wants it to spread quickly, but going into some sort of lock down on day one simply means it doesnt spread at all. And unless we all plan on spending 18 months indoors waiting on a vaccine (which might not be effective by then anyway) then we needed to let it spread a bit. Which is what we've all done.
And ultimately we need to remember that for most of us it'll just be a flu. People need to keep their shit together. Today I've had calls saying "there's toilet paper in x shop" and "sign up for x government aid package before the system gets swamped".. Sensible people normally, swept up in the insanity that is social media. Embarrassing.
From my understanding you'll be on sick pay. This 80 percent grant is for employers who effectively have to close their doors and want to keep the employees on payroll.
Church of England cancelled all public worship a week ago. We weren’t even allowed to record a radio broadcast BCD.
In the 1918 Spanish Flu pandemic the bishop of Zamora in western Spain told his flock that this new-fangled Germ Theory was a Protestant/Communist Plot and they had to come to the Cathedral for nine days in succession to not only receive mass but also kiss the Holy Relics. Not surprisingly, the death toll was the highest of any town in Europe.
675M? What?
Starting to look grim in London
Even handshakes have been absolutely banned for the past three weeks. In the C of E Diocese of Leeds at any rate. But then we never really go for Holy Hugging
What do you mean by 675M? What? It's there in my post. 675M USD.
A lockdown from day one would have been a lockdown about 2 months ago. It was never into question, even in the best of chances, it wouldn't have been possible, even the Chinese couldn't do that.
What you see in the UK, however, is the exact opposite, not a half-sensible middle ground. News anchors in Portugal are shocked that only today were classes suspended.
Boris Johnson is now no different than that famous Iraqi information minister.
It's Friday today and we have to pray in congregation. But the large mosques are shut under government guidance. I managed to squeak into a much smaller one expecting it to be heaving but people seem to have taken the advice and stayed home. Seems like Ramadan will be pretty much done at home too from next month (normally it's daily night time prayers in congregation). This is all allowed by the way under extenuating circumstances like these.
Why the feck did they ask for that?
I was talking to a client in Hong Kong this morning, and she says they are starting to get back to normality a little bit now. She said that the supermarket shelf stripping went on for a month though.
I'm at my local Chinese tonight, and they told me that the schools are starting to reopen in China.
A lot of Chinese people from Europe are going back to China, for safety. They are being quarantined for 2 weeks before they can properly enter the country.
Maybe 3 months and things can start to get back to normal.
I'm at my local Chinese tonight, and they told me that the schools are starting to reopen in China.
A lot of Chinese people from Europe are going back to China, for safety. They are being quarantined for 2 weeks before they can properly enter the country.
Maybe 3 months and things can start to get back to normal.
How so? I'm there but haven't left my ends for days
To help the less fortunate countries to fight the pandemic I guess. WHO is funded by the member states. It's in the Guardian. Have a look.
The way you put it it appeared like some form of weird quid pro quo . I'll check it out.
After all the madness over the last few days with work and trying to get shopping done it got even crazier today when I got home from shopping.
Nan passed away about three weeks ago. Her funeral is next week on Wednesday but been told I won't be able to go as it's only immiediete family which I've been told is limited to 5 people. Absolutely shit situation but trying to take myself out of the situation from a personal point of view, I find it a bit strange that they're limiting some funerals, is this a government decision? If so it all seems a bit strange considering we are still sending people into work surrounded by others, people are going shopping in absolute hoards etc. I'd have thought with something as sensitive as funerals they would have put out advice for elderly or people to possibly limit but to give them a choice.
With that, the way the shops were today and the huge conference from Boris and co it's all been a bit overwhelming. The missus actually had a few years after the press conference finished. It's crazy to think that two weeks ago it was all a bit "ah the standard cold is worst than this virus" and now a week or two later we're in something that's almost like a movie. It's all a bit surreal and has started to hit me a bit more the last few days.
Like I said to the missus too, we are going to.sleep reading about the virus and watching stuff about it. Waking up to it. Going all day on and off looking and reading about it. Facebook, news, TV, social media, friends, family...you can't escape it. I've told the missus to lay off Facebook and stuff but equally it's bloody hard to not have a look every half hour as to what's happening.
Nan passed away about three weeks ago. Her funeral is next week on Wednesday but been told I won't be able to go as it's only immiediete family which I've been told is limited to 5 people. Absolutely shit situation but trying to take myself out of the situation from a personal point of view, I find it a bit strange that they're limiting some funerals, is this a government decision? If so it all seems a bit strange considering we are still sending people into work surrounded by others, people are going shopping in absolute hoards etc. I'd have thought with something as sensitive as funerals they would have put out advice for elderly or people to possibly limit but to give them a choice.
With that, the way the shops were today and the huge conference from Boris and co it's all been a bit overwhelming. The missus actually had a few years after the press conference finished. It's crazy to think that two weeks ago it was all a bit "ah the standard cold is worst than this virus" and now a week or two later we're in something that's almost like a movie. It's all a bit surreal and has started to hit me a bit more the last few days.
Like I said to the missus too, we are going to.sleep reading about the virus and watching stuff about it. Waking up to it. Going all day on and off looking and reading about it. Facebook, news, TV, social media, friends, family...you can't escape it. I've told the missus to lay off Facebook and stuff but equally it's bloody hard to not have a look every half hour as to what's happening.
I've just finished a long day on my ward and one of my patients developed a cough and spiked a temperature and is not responding to paracetamol. About 2 hours ago we were told that the patient had to be isolated and swabbed for covid and site-cordinator feels it is likely. Have not been told not work, self isolate or anything else. Annoyingly a resus nurse came on as I was leaving to give some updated instructions so I stayed behind to listen.
In the event of a suspected covid patient having a cardiac arrest we are to go in with full PPE, fitted mask, long gowns and gloves. She assumed we had no suspected patients until we corrected her. We also advised that none of the night staff have had fittings for masks and we have NONE of the needed PPE on the ward other than gloves. Our patient does not have a Do Not Attempt Resuscitation order in place so she said it's upto us if we go in or not if it happens. Needless to say the night team are bleeping the medical reg to get that DNAR in place!
It's been hell on our ward, half the staff are self isolating and the rest are being pulled to cover covid areas as NO bank staff wants to pick up those shifts. Unsurprising. Our managment team are literally telling us to get on with it, its a pandemic, what do you expect? Can't wait for tomorrow (sarcasm). Luckily we are now not taking anymore admissions so at least if I do have it I wont give to new patients. Also lucky I live by myself but did have to phone Mum and tell her I won't be having dinner with her on Mothering Sunday.
Sorry to hear this, that is awful and so so shit for you and your family.
The UK school shutdown happened pretty much in same timeframe, or before in some cases, as Germany, France, Holland and Spain when measured against progress of cases and the spread of the disease.
Went to the Etihad this past week. Not a single City supporter left. I can't believe that people are so selfish.
It was nice of them to get ahead of the curve early and play their games behind closed doors.
Great, now there's a plastic shortage too!
All the NHS staff who have been sold out by the government by 10 years of austerity. And then sold short on the coronavirus by a retroactive moronic leadership, every single one of them who are on the front fighting this without proper safety equipment will go down in memory for me. Absolute heroes the lot of them and we should never forget what they are doing for us.
*applauds*I stand corrected on that particular point. Must have been distracted and the anchor I saw was maybe talking about another country.
"There's no magic money tree."
I think your putting a little bit too much faith into us doing things right.
Unfortunately we’ve gone too far. China put restrictions in place much earlier and they were much tighter too, and mostly focused around one area too which is easier to contain.
Baptists, and old. It's Hug CentralEven handshakes have been absolutely banned for the past three weeks. In the C of E Diocese of Leeds at any rate. But then we never really go for Holy Hugging
My recommendation for everyone here is to find sustainable lifestyle that you will be able to live for the next few months and not go crazy. So much of my Facebook wall is polluted with people bragging about staying at home for the last 7 days and labeling everyone who goes out for whatever reason, even in secluded areas, idiots and ‘murderers’. I know those people are actually not doing anyone any favors staying at home, contrary to what they think, because they won’t be able to keep it up for the amount of time that is likely to be needed. Go for a bike, go for a run, go for a walk, avoid crowds, read some books, watch some films. There’s still so much to do.
Of course that all goes out the window if you don’t have income anymore.
Of course that all goes out the window if you don’t have income anymore.
I think the only way it’s possible that we are anywhere near returning to something that resembles normal in 3 months time is if they get this antibody testing kit rolled out to the masses and people who are immune return to work while people who are at risk stay at home. That will limit the spread of the virus much quicker.