SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

When it comes to efficiency I raise my hats of to Singapore, the best in the world in terms of readiness.

But to be fair, it's easier to be efficient when you're rich and only have to deal with a city wide country with a 3 million inhabitants.

Your neighbour (my country) Indonesia can only cross their fingers and brace for impact.

Yes, it's easier to be efficient even you are small. But I think more importantly is the mindset. We have a mindset of vulnerability. Most of the bigger nations have a mindset of invulnerability.
 
Such a view is Eco-fascism, and pretty much one step away from eugenics. feck that.

Does it count as eugenics if I say that we're all the virus? I'm not trying to improve the human race by weeding out the 'worst', I'm saying we should all die because we're a terrible species and we are quite literally a virus. Agent Smith was right...



There's no evidence that we've improved the planet by existing whereas there's ample evidence we've ruined it.
 
Here's a question.

Has anyone been to fetch take out food?

With the supermarkets as they are, we've been using Just Eat deliveries every other day to try and avoid having to risk the crowds and make our stocks last longer. They have a no contact delivery thing, they just leave it at the door stand back and you just pick it up. Its been great to be honest.

I want to support local businesses anyway, they need it, so was thinking of going to the local fish and chip shop while they are still open. Don't know if that's a good idea or not. Chances are it won't be busy.
 
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Some sick people in those top 5 countries

feckers at the bottom of the list are more concerning.
 
day 10 of isolation and I’m spiraling truth be told. Moved to this country ten months ago so don’t have a lot of close friends here, so already had a bit of loneliness kicking in.
I have ps4/Netflix/books/work from home. But I’m crumbling here. I won’t go out with friends and put others at risk - following the gov advice here, but I’m spiraling
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Some sick people in those top 5 countries
The makers of coronavirus-themed porn are reacting impressively quick to meet this new demand tbf.
 
Just in case there is anybody left who thinks this is still 'just a flu'. This hospital is just a few miles from me:


Just came to share this. That's a hard watch.

Look at the top response to this video when tweeted. Still some just trying to explain it away.

 
So last Wednesday my son was not feeling well and we thought he had some kind of stomach bug (came out both ends), which later just became a fever/cough. Then it his the missus with the same symptoms, just in the other order, cough/fever first, then stomach problems.

I on the other hand was fine, maybe some light headache and a bit low energy, but not too bad. Then yesterday it hit me full force and it feels like my lungs are on fire.

None of us has gotten the chance to get tested, but i am pretty sure we all have it now. Oh well. At least we wont have to worry about getting it later then :)

Get well soon mate and keep us updated on how you're doing.

How old are you all, if you don't me asking?
 
The makers of coronavirus-themed porn are reacting impressively quick to meet this new demand tbf.
Scenario:

FLUFFY McBOOBS: "Oh no...we've played all the board games and watched all the DVDs - what shall we do for entertainment now?"
ROOMMATE: *wiggles eyesbrows up and down ten times*
 
Here's a question.

Has anyone been to fetch take out food?

With the supermarkets as they are, we've been using Just Eat deliveries every other day to try and avoid having to risk the crowds and make our stocks last longer. They have a no contact delivery thing, they just leave it at the door stand back and you just pick it up. Its been great to be honest.

I want to support local businesses anyway, they need it, so was thinking of going to the local fish and chip shop while they are still open. Don't know if that's a good idea or not. Chances are it won't be busy.

I am afraid that a take out would breathe on the food and then i would get it.

Would not dream of going into a place now. Michael Osterholm who is an infectious agents expert said all the data points to this virus being spread by breathing in air that is infected. He also said the disinfecting surfaces is being overplayed, as in breathing is the primary source of transmission.
 
I’m saying on mass people will eventually grow tired of the measures and frustration and anger will kick in. It’s highly likely to reach that point.
Some of the less bright ones have skipped the growing tired, frustration and anger phases and gone straight to the what-can-I-bring-my-nan-home-from-spring-break-mode:

US students party on spring break despite coronavirus https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51955362
 
At least in Europe you have a hope. What hope is there for people of Iran? The USA is refusing to ease sanctions and the British government has been trying to get USA to ease sanctions so Iranians can buy medical supplies. USA has refused so far.
 
The government's stance on schools is ludicrous. They've just announced their list of 'essential workers' and it's basically half of the population, meaning the kids of these workers can still go in school - with less staff to teach them and no noticeable extra financial support. They're basically asking teachers and TAs to act as nannys at this point, because parents can just say, 'Yes, I'm essential' and not have to have the kids at home with them! Total joke.
Yes, that's exactly what teachers are being asked to be. They are being asked to do their part. We have no shame in encouraging our staff to follow this guideline and keep having their kids cared for, so they can continue with jobs that keeps all this going.

In the same way that lots of other workers lost their jobs in recent weeks and are now supermarket shelf-stackers and checkout assistants, or delivery men, or warehouse pickers, and in the same way that specialist NHS doctors and nurses are now just doing the more general to try and keep people alive, teachers will also have to do something a bit different to play their part.
 
I’ve got high blood pressure. In runs in my family everyone over the age of 40 has it.

So many people over the age of 40 have it. I would say it is most difficult to not be old and not have it in life.

Loads of people have lung problems like Asthma as well.

I think it is really old people, like 70 plus that this virus is really effecting, although young people do get it and die.
 
Yes, that's exactly what teachers are being asked to be. They are being asked to do their part. We have no shame in encouraging our staff to follow this guideline and keep having their kids cared for, so they can continue with jobs that keeps all this going.

In the same way that lots of other workers lost their jobs in recent weeks and are now supermarket shelf-stackers and checkout assistants, or delivery men, or warehouse pickers, and in the same way that specialist NHS doctors and nurses are now just doing the more general to try and keep people alive, teachers will also have to do something a bit different to play their part.
It's not about doing your part, it's about a school that usually has 360 kids only having 80 kids in next week and, rather than bringing in a proportional number of staff and then rotating teaching staff as and when kids and teachers get ill, they're asking all teaching staff to come in, despite them not all being needed. Running the risk of making all of the teachers and TAs sick quicker doesn't make any sense in this situation. It's fecking stupid.
 
It's not about doing your part, it's about a school that usually has 360 kids only having 80 kids in next week and, rather than bringing in a proportional number of staff and then rotating teaching staff as and when kids and teachers get ill, they're asking all teaching staff to come in, despite them not all being needed. Running the risk of making all of the teachers and TAs sick quicker doesn't make any sense in this situation. It's fecking stupid.
That sounds like a different situation to what your first post alluded to that. This sounds more like a problem with the school than the policy itself then, in the same way that some businesses are adapting admirably to this, whilst others are still looking for every excuse possible to drag as many workers into offices as they can.
 
Someone's Twitter said:
Half the country will die then come the next election every newspaper will have a photoshop of Boris dressed as Nelson bumming the Virus to death and there'll be another Tory landslide
 
Has there been any reported instances of someone younger than 45 and in good health(non-smoker, no preexisting condition) passing away, apart from that one doctor in Wuhan?

It seems like around 30% of patients in the hospital are younger than 45, but it's hard to find stats over how many of these people pass away(without having a preexisting condition).

Not exactly the same but I’m in a group chat with about 20 people (we all work together) everyone is under 40. Two are currently displaying strong symptoms (coughing, fever, headache, temp) one of these two people is a chain smoker, the other missed three months of work a while back as he had the whooping cough. Nobody else in the group has anything at the moment.
 
That sounds like a different situation to what your first post alluded to that. This sounds more like a problem with the school than the policy itself then, in the same way that some businesses are adapting admirably to this, whilst others are still looking for every excuse possible to drag as many workers into offices as they can.
Yeah, this is a fairly recent development. The decisions about whose parents constituted an essential worker were made by asking 6 year olds what their parents did for a living, so was equally retarded. And rather than asking if both parents were essential workers, they just seem to be asking if one is, which is still totally skewing the results. They're a bit of a shambles in all honesty.
 


Seems messed up this. There are so many kids who will have performed poorly in mocks due to many different reasons but will have been trying to knuckle down in the final exam. The whole point of an exam is it is a one off. You could be shite throughout the whole year but study for that exam and do amazing in it (also a reason why I’ve always hated exams for judging people’s ability but that is the system).

Hope they have a rethink on this and teachers tell them to get stuffed.
 


Seems messed up this. There are so many kids who will have performed poorly in mocks due to many different reasons but will have been trying to knuckle down in the final exam. The whole point of an exam is it is a one off. You could be shite throughout the whole year but study for that exam and do amazing in it (also a reason why I’ve always hated exams for judging people’s ability but that is the system).

Hope they have a rethink on this and teachers tell them to get stuffed.

Yeah that's shite. Not a massive deal to be kind with GCSE results and give them the benefit of the doubt as they'll be either going to college or not anyway, but A-Levels is a different kettle of fish and can potentially have a big knock on effect.
 
Humans are the virus.

Covid19 is the cure.

Discuss.

Well who would have hoped you would return under different account even more negative than you were before?

So last Wednesday my son was not feeling well and we thought he had some kind of stomach bug (came out both ends), which later just became a fever/cough. Then it his the missus with the same symptoms, just in the other order, cough/fever first, then stomach problems.

I on the other hand was fine, maybe some light headache and a bit low energy, but not too bad. Then yesterday it hit me full force and it feels like my lungs are on fire.

None of us has gotten the chance to get tested, but i am pretty sure we all have it now. Oh well. At least we wont have to worry about getting it later then :)

Crap! Get well soon, good luck!
 
The UK is hardly carrying out any tests, of course the death rate has been higher.

We're really upping them over the couple of weeks and that will be telling.

That's the number of deaths charted not the rate, testing isn't relevant.
 
Do government seriously think people are going to live like this for 12 months? They’re having a laugh if they think billions of people will accept it. I expect things to get ugly in about 6-10 weeks times. Riots, shopping lifting. We will become a nanny state over a virus which is killing the elderly and people with prior illnesses. Some people will think I’m being harsh but so far 10k people have died on a planet with nearly 8 billion people. Even if we got to a million people the numbers are relatively small given how dangerous this virus is being implied to be.

This to me is a concern, it’s something still a bit taboo at the moment but at the moment most people are scared and are listening and so the social distancing is working. But once people understand and figure out that the probability of them getting ill from the virus is actually extremely low, coupled with not working, Not socialising, no income etc the tide will turn without question.
It’s a rubbish situation and despite what the experts on here say (a lot seem to be missing the long term mental health ramifications of what measures they want) there is literally no right or wrong way to do this. Because whatever happens people are going to suffer one way or another.
 


Seems messed up this. There are so many kids who will have performed poorly in mocks due to many different reasons but will have been trying to knuckle down in the final exam. The whole point of an exam is it is a one off. You could be shite throughout the whole year but study for that exam and do amazing in it (also a reason why I’ve always hated exams for judging people’s ability but that is the system).

Hope they have a rethink on this and teachers tell them to get stuffed.


Completely fecked up. I was a pain in the arse in School and did next to no work (undiagnosed ADHD) and was predicted Es, Ds and Fs by my teachers because my coursework was half arsed or non-existent. I smashed the feck out of the exams and got mostly Cs with a couple of Ds.

I know for a fact that my teachers would never have given me the benefit of any doubt and wouldn't have awarded me a single C. I guarantee there is tens of thousands of kids just like I was who will be given absolutely zero respect from their teachers who now get to decide their future based on their opinion of the student rather than what the student is capable of given the chance.