SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

Wife works in gordons chemists, one of the main pharmacists in the town. 3 people are showing symptoms including he who is responsible for the home deliveries of subscriptions and all 3 have been told they have to keep working
 
My cousin has been intubated and admitted to ICU, suspected covid 19, incidentally had a negative test but signs and symptoms point to it and treating him as such and suspecting false negative. Was in daily contact with him for 2-3 days prior, dramatic deterioration with shortness of breath. Has two kids and wife who are shocked. Mid-30s, no previous medical issues, previously fit and well. Not allowed to visit either but can get updates via phone from ward.
 
My cousin has been intubated and admitted to ICU, suspected covid 19, incidentally had a negative test but signs and symptoms point to it and treating him as such and suspecting false negative. Was in daily contact with him for 2-3 days prior, dramatic deterioration with shortness of breath. Has two kids and wife who are shocked. Mid-30s, no previous medical issues, previously fit and well. Not allowed to visit either but can get updates via phone from ward.

I'm sorry to hear that. The bolded part is intriguing because the deterioration is supposed to be gradual not dramatic.
 
I'm sorry to hear that. The bolded part is intriguing because the deterioration is supposed to be gradual not dramatic.

Not from what I've read and heard. It can be very sudden, even coming after a period of improvement of the initial symptoms.
 
I'm sorry to hear that. The bolded part is intriguing because the deterioration is supposed to be gradual not dramatic.

Friend of mine has an autoimmune disease, went from nothing to full on disaster and admitted to the hospital.
 
Not from what I've read and heard. It can be very sudden, even coming after a period of improvement of the initial symptoms.

What I'm saying comes directly from the person in charge of the Covid-19 at Arnaud de Villeneuve CHU's. Their cases, as long as italian and chinese cases are gradual, not dramatic which is why his remark was interesting because if he indeed is infected by Covid-19 then it adds uncertainties.
 
I'm sorry to hear that. The bolded part is intriguing because the deterioration is supposed to be gradual not dramatic.

Initial symptoms were gradual then one day morning onwards was quite short of breath, taken to hospital into isolated side room, oxygen saturations were 91% on room air (usual targets are 94-96% in unwell patients), started on nasal oxygen, was fine, then around midnight suddenly oxygen requirements went up in a few hours to needing venturi masks, not maintaining sats, intubated and taken to ICU within the hour as was reaching respiratory arrest.
 
Initial symptoms were gradual then one day morning onwards was quite short of breath, taken to hospital into isolated side room, oxygen saturations were 91% on room air (usual targets are 94-96% in unwell patients), started on nasal oxygen, was fine, then around midnight suddenly oxygen requirements went up in a few hours to needing venturi masks, not maintaining sats, intubated and taken to ICU within the hour as was reaching respiratory arrest.

Thanks that makes more sense, it was gradual until the beginning of respiratory difficulties.
 
I work in a private independent school and we've just been told we won't get paid if/when a quarantine happens.

I'm fuming and honestly don't know what I'm going to. I cant afford to pay my bills on SSP.

Anyone else having similar issues?
That’s the danger of certain independent sectors, how are you protected without union representation? Surely they should. After all school fees will still need to be paid

You can bet the elites like: Eton and Harrow have enough surplus to protect salaries
 
Offered an option to terminate my internship, continue my internship, or returning to Italy and doing work from home there. I am seriously considering getting the third option, but I am scared to death that I might catch the virus and then infect either my mum (65) or my brother (in a wheelchair after an accident 26 years ago, so has a weaker immunity).

At the same time, I am a bit scared that the system might crash hard, and then being stuck in the US without a home (and potentially without money) is not an ideal scenario. Still thinking to stay but seriously considering returning. One of the toughest decisions I have made in my life.

Dude, get the hell out of there. Do it now.
 
Cloth nappies and a flannel.


Yes I know. I was trying to make the point that young people are daft and that maybe old people have some good ideas after all. The world doesn't end if you can't get disposable nappies and baby wipes which are fecking awful for the environment anyway.
 
What I'm saying comes directly from the person in charge of the Covid-19 at Arnaud de Villeneuve CHU's. Their cases, as long as italian and chinese cases are gradual, not dramatic which is why his remark was interesting because if he indeed is infected by Covid-19 then it adds uncertainties.

What I'm saying comes directly from the Italian government... The virus is unpredictable and can be incredibly dangerous. Not always, but it can be.

The first patient here, a 38 year old, had a fever then recovered. A week later he woke up in the middle of the night unable to breathe and spent the next month in ICU.
 
Are people’s organisations paying people if they are self isolating or will have to have time off if schools close or is it unpaid leave?

In Ireland the govt are paying people illness benefit for the two weeks which is 50% more than the regular sick leave.

There's also emergency social welfare for those who've been laid off.

My job are thankfully very good with sick pay and pay you your regular pay.
 
I don't understand why i keep hearing MPs saying we can't close schools because of NHS workers. Well yeah open a limited amount of schools to allow only these children to go as other countries are doing.

It's like they can't think beyond a script. Do your fecking job and plan contingencies like every private company is doing.
 
What I'm saying comes directly from the Italian government... The virus is unpredictable and can be incredibly dangerous. Not always, but it can be.

The first patient here, a 38 year old, had a fever then recovered. A week later he woke up in the middle of the night unable to breathe and spent the next month in ICU.

What I said doesn't mean that the virus is predictable or not dangerous. But based on what emergency services in France, Italy and China witnessed, what you are describing is supposed to be anecdotal, it's interesting and worth being kept in mind but it's seemingly not how it generally works. Now, the more dramatic deteriorations happen, the more health services will have to revise their current organization.
 
London is going to be an absolute state. Lots of low wage people living in high priced rental accommodation. My friend is a chef and still says the restaurant is still full. It’s going to spread massively and then the hospital won’t be able to cope. I don’t usually blame the government for much but their lack of foresight on this is ridiculous. Everything should be closed now for two weeks.
 
Exactly, I know people who’ve taken pictures of themselves hooked up to machines in a hospital to prove to work they were ill.

Exactly. The focus is always on the one who cheated the system, rather than the vast majority of people who are genuine.

People aren't going to change behaviours that this toxic culture has entrained into them, overnight.
 
In LA they have enacted a local law that landlords can't evict anybody because of this. I'm sure that will happen here. I'm not sure how I'd even do that from my rentals...not that I would even consider that though. I'm anticipating not collecting rents for a while but that's fine.
 
Curious how India, the world's second most populated country with 1.3 billion, has managed to largely avoid all of this (only 119 cases according to the Johns Hopkins site).
 
With the new legislation SSP kicks in from day one so equates to about £114 a week now. That's the minimum, employers can choose to pay more.
Dont think thats how it works. Day 1 to 3 was zero. The next 7 days was 94 then the next was 94 and so on.

It literally means days 1 to 7 is 94. Days 8 to 14 is 94 and so on.

Its not additional money. It just starts earlier
 
London is going to be an absolute state. Lots of low wage people living in high priced rental accommodation. My friend is a chef and still says the restaurant is still full. It’s going to spread massively and then the hospital won’t be able to cope. I don’t usually blame the government for much but their lack of foresight on this is ridiculous. Everything should be closed now for two weeks.
Catch 22.
 
Curious how India, the world's second most populated country with 1.3 billion, has managed to largely avoid all of this (only 119 cases according to the Johns Hopkins site).

Lack of testing I expect.
 
Curious how India, the world's second most populated country with 1.3 billion, has managed to largely avoid all of this (only 119 cases according to the Johns Hopkins site).

They haven't. It's just inadequate testing.
 
I don't understand why i keep hearing MPs saying we can't close schools because of NHS workers. Well yeah open a limited amount of schools to allow only these children to go as other countries are doing.

It's like they can't think beyond a script. Do your fecking job and plan contingencies like every private company is doing.

No fatalities in the under 10's, tiny ammounts in the under 20's indeed there is a thought that you cant contract the virus until you are a certain age. The people we need to worry about is the older population and the ones with underlaying health concerns. NHS needs to be protected at all costs, when the health service goes to shit the numbers that die sky rocket.
 
Good point, hadn't thought of that.

If they are severely underreported then it could get out of hand once the real numbers come out.

The scale of it is going to be mental in India once it does 'peak'. I was there in October and the combination of population density, poverty and lack of access to care is a recipe for disaster.

I'm scared for my family left there, but in many ways they'll be okay as they live in farms way out in the middle of nowhere. They don't really need to go out into villages as they can self sustain their lives on the farm.