But if none of the god knows how many who take care of the first patient didn't get sick what are the odds?? And note the 2nd patient came with whatever he came with originally from outside right.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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But if none of the god knows how many who take care of the first patient didn't get sick what are the odds?? And note the 2nd patient came with whatever he came with originally from outside right.
My wife was one of the nurses who took care of the 1st patient.
I’ve PM’d you some more details.
Allright. What happens to the banks if everyone withdrew all of their money? I guess physical paper money might not be worth much down the line? I'd imagine there would be an influx of house robberies too when that became known.
If a few does it. It might be smart?
My understanding is that the US is well provisioned for ICU beds compared to most countries, 20 per 100K I think I saw, compared to 8 in Australia and I think maybe even less in the UK. Probably still not enough but I was wondering if many of these are only going to be for those with insurance? If so there could be a whole other issue in the US if/when things get really bad.
If everyone withdrew their money, the banks would be fecked, the economy would collapse and we'd all have go back to a bartering system of sea shells and shiny rocks. But I don't think there's any chance of that happening. The banks/government will simply come up with withdrawal limits and attempt stimulus packages.
But it's always a good idea to have a bit of extra cash in your pocket for a rainy day. I wouldn't want to bet my survival on VISA or Mastercard in the event of banking crisis.
I think robberies and looting of shuttered stores are inevitable. They were happening before the virus, so they'll only get worse as people get more desperate.
.I see your Italy and raise you...
I might be naive, but if the whole world goes into lockdown for 2 weeks, doesn't that mean that the virus would stop spreading in public and only those affected would need medical care?
Ignoring the fact that the logistics of that would be incredibly hard that it's not going to happen in the real world.
Ignoring the fact that the logistics of that would be incredibly hard that it's not going to happen in the real world.
Offered an option to terminate my internship, continue my internship, or returning to Italy and doing work from home there. I am seriously considering getting the third option, but I am scared to death that I might catch the virus and then infect either my mum (65) or my brother (in a wheelchair after an accident 26 years ago, so has a weaker immunity).
At the same time, I am a bit scared that the system might crash hard, and then being stuck in the US without a home (and potentially without money) is not an ideal scenario. Still thinking to stay but seriously considering returning. One of the toughest decisions I have made in my life.
At the same time, I am a bit scared that the system might crash hard, and then being stuck in the US without a home (and potentially without money) is not an ideal scenario. Still thinking to stay but seriously considering returning. One of the toughest decisions I have made in my life.
If literally everyone stays at home yes (though probably it needs more than 2 weeks). But some cannot do that (doctors, nurses, police, etc), and some of them will be inevitably infected, so the cycle would continue.
Everybody can't withdraw their money. The banks reinvest in Mortgages, Loans etc in order to make money so the capital would not be there for all of their customers to empty their accounts.
They would have to impose limits (as you said).
I wouldn't be surprised to see a run on the banks (based on the shopping habits that are being put out) so sea shells and shiny rocks are looking like a viable currency if the situation deteriorates.
if it was me I'd get out of the US asap, so much potential for carnage there
You are right. Simple as If one person (me) is infected and another isn't (my neighbour) if we keep distance for two weeks, we can meet up and have a drink when I'm cured without any of us having to worry about the virus. If everyone treated the situation as if you were infected by it even if you're not, just for two weeks, it'll stop spreading. Governments making this basic concept absolutely clear everywhere would at least help masses understand the importance to take precaution, but making it into a solution world wide is the hard part.
Do y’all have something like we do with the FDIC (Federal Deposit Insurance Corp.) where the gov’t insures bank deposits for every account up to $250,000?
Yeah, up to £85k per banking group.
But if push came to shove, the Tories won't let the banks fail. I'm not afraid of the system collapsing.
I just think it's wise to have a bit of paper cash to tide me over in case funds are temporarily frozen for some reason.
Oh, I didn't tell you that home is Italy
I am very much towards the third option, but the possibility of infecting my family is non-trivial, and if something bad happens, dunno how I would then deal with it. At the same time, if it gets here really bad (like no job or crashing of the system), it would be the worst place to be. If things are somehow normal, it should be okay (I am quite healthy, under 30 and have quite good health insurance).
Such a terrible situation to be.
Many counties in California have implemented shelter in home policies. Hopefully it will help
Gotcha. I’ve always wondered who else had something similar, but have never actually looked it up.
Oh, I didn't tell you that home is Italy
I am very much towards the third option, but the possibility of infecting my family is non-trivial, and if something bad happens, dunno how I would then deal with it. At the same time, if it gets here really bad (like no job or crashing of the system), it would be the worst place to be. If things are somehow normal, it should be okay (I am quite healthy, under 30 and have quite good health insurance).
Such a terrible situation to be.
Yeah I knew it was Italy, I just have a terrible feeling the situation in the US will get much worse. First of all a lot of Trump fans think it's a hoax and aren't taking it seriously, and secondly 10% don't have healthcare.
Obviously just guessing at this point but it just isn't a country I'd like to be stranded in during a crisis.
If you could somehow minimise the risk by traveling at the right time, and somehow have a situation prepared when you arrived back home, to be isolated from your family for two weeks or so, maybe in a rented apartment nearby or similar? Then you would be prepared to take care of the situation for everyone. Tough situation man, I truly feel for you.Oh, I didn't tell you that home is Italy
I am very much towards the third option, but the possibility of infecting my family is non-trivial, and if something bad happens, dunno how I would then deal with it. At the same time, if it gets here really bad (like no job or crashing of the system), it would be the worst place to be. If things are somehow normal, it should be okay (I am quite healthy, under 30 and have quite good health insurance).
Such a terrible situation to be.
Travelling at the right time is a bit hard to manage, very hard to predict. Quarantine might be somehow an option, but easier said than done. I know my mum, she would still try to pass my quarantine. Also my brother has a little son, so he would not understand that the nearby room/bathroom is off-limits.
I think I need a good sleep, some chats tomorrow, and then roll the dice. Both options can go really bad.
I'd imagine that airbnbs and hotels are empty at the moment. Could you afford to put yourself up in one for a week, then test your temperature before moving back home?
That is not a bad option at all. I don't know if hotels are allowed to operate though (and if they offer food).
If I do it, this is probably the best option.
Oh, I didn't tell you that home is Italy
I am very much towards the third option, but the possibility of infecting my family is non-trivial, and if something bad happens, dunno how I would then deal with it. At the same time, if it gets here really bad (like no job or crashing of the system), it would be the worst place to be. If things are somehow normal, it should be okay (I am quite healthy, under 30 and have quite good health insurance).
Such a terrible situation to be.
As long as your internship is secure I'd think about staying in the US.
Where you are in CA may be a factor as some SF counties have already gone into a lock-down of sorts. Another factor is if you have the capacity to work from home as I think many companies will mandate this soon for anyone who can.
Some people here came back from Mecca and were quarantined. They've been trying to escape since then.
Sometimes police brutality isn't a bad thing.
Sometimes police brutality isn't a bad thing.
Oh, I didn't tell you that home is Italy
I am very much towards the third option, but the possibility of infecting my family is non-trivial, and if something bad happens, dunno how I would then deal with it. At the same time, if it gets here really bad (like no job or crashing of the system), it would be the worst place to be. If things are somehow normal, it should be okay (I am quite healthy, under 30 and have quite good health insurance).
Such a terrible situation to be.
Find a friend to move in with? You should have enough savings to tide you over for 3 months in the worst case?
Saw some photos of quarantine facilities in India. If I was quarantined in those, I'd fecking run away ASAP as well.
I have Kaiser HPO (and another backup insurance), so insurance is fine. I am already working from home (since the beginning of last week), and since end of last week, the company ordered everyone (bar a few people who need to maintain the system) to work from home. Even if I will go to Italy, I can work from home until beginning of July.
Lockdown has started today, but it is not Wuhan type pf lockdown, so it is still possible to move.
3 months should not be a problem in any case (unless ATM starts working). My fear is that it gets worse than we think, and then I might be stuck until a vaccine comes (mid-end 2021). Quite unlikely, but shit happens.
Going through airports is probably a great way to catch the thing. That's why I'm staying in Ethiopia. No point going back to Denmark to sit in quarantine while at the same time increasing the risk of me catching it (on the way there) and thereby spreading it to others. Might as well just hunker down here.
Yep, that is my thinking too. I've sat home since last Tuesday, to only go to this does not look very smart to me (though maybe the other way around might be better).
So just on my way to work and got on the train. Woman say right across from me on the opposite side of the carriage coughing like a dog barking. Literally everyone got up and moved with people fuming at her.
What the feck is wrong with people? Selfish cnuts.
What the feck is wrong with people? Selfish cnuts.
Steady on.
It isn't on from her certainly, but she could be an hourly paid worker with no job security. No amount of compassion she shows by staying at home is going too help her keep the lights and heating on, let alone food on the table.
It always makes you wonder what it means to be a citizen then. Meaningful when the national anthem is on, hand to heart and all that? But when it comes to the practicality of being considerate to your fellow American, European, British citizen etc, it seems to fall way short.
It only shows how much people are being manipulated by governments to feel patriotic for their own needs -- gov't control and your own personal identity. But when collective national conscience is required other fellow citizens and their health, many just dont give a feck. And will be they will be first to wrap themselves around the flag.
Just good old human stupidity in this instance.
Yesterday one of my line reports came into work to report symptoms and ask if she should work from home.
I'm livid. I doubt she has it but it's scared others in the office. She said she wanted to 'show her face in the office' before asking. For fecks sake
I'm livid. I doubt she has it but it's scared others in the office. She said she wanted to 'show her face in the office' before asking. For fecks sake
Exactly. Normally you'd get an 'ok boomer' for that reply.
Nah. It's selfish. Just had to settle some guy down who has had a go at her but you know what I can't disagree with him. She could literally kill someone by spreading. You can't tell me that's okay, I'm sorry.
It's as if people need to see the actual consequences for themselves before they take note. A lad I know has been posting things about a conspiracy theory based on all of this. I'm not going to go into the bollocks but I'm sure he's not the only one which in turn gives him a blaise attitude about it all.