No, it's not about finances at all.
I do think there would be no harm in calling off public events, things like sports and crowds. I don't understand why they haven't been outlawed.
But closing all the schools and isolating towns and hotspots needs to be done at the right time, if we do it now, and people isolate for 3 weeks, they'll head back out into the world *before* the virus has peaked - it's all about metrics, to start the isolation right as the virus begins to peak, to mitigate the number of affected people at the right time.
You know where there’s probably no COVID-19? North Korea.
Whatever they’re doing...its working.
I assume he was being sarcastic.What makes you think that? It's not like they will report it. No chance of them not having it considering their close relationship with China.
What makes you think that? It's not like they will report it. No chance of them not having it considering their close relationship with China.
True. U.K needs some kind of proper leader to emerge about now.
Someone with influence who turns the pressure up on this ridiculously decadent Downing Street debacle.
We're being guided through a fecking pandemic by the Bullingdon Club - think about that.
Yeah good post.
If you go too early with a full lockdown it's totally unsustainable. It's all about timing and thus far I don't think you can criticise the UK (even though all the cool kids want to).
No we're not - again, I refer you to Professor Vallance - chief science advisor to the government, and pretty much the architect of the path we're following in the UK, who points out that the most stringent methods of community isolation must only come at the right time, or they won't be effective.
Isolation works only until some point. Because in order for society to function, some people won't be able to get isolated (doctors, nurses, people who work in the supermarkets, policemen etc). When there are thousands of people infected, or even tens of thousands, the isolation would have some effect, flatten the curve, and delay the spread, giving the doctors a chance to save us, and giving the scientists enough time to make anti-virals and a vaccine before more than hundred million people die. If millions of people get infected (and the peak will be millions of infected at the same time, if the government does not act fast), isolation won't do much.No we're not - again, I refer you to Professor Vallance - chief science advisor to the government, and pretty much the architect of the path we're following in the UK, who points out that the most stringent methods of community isolation must only come at the right time, or they won't be effective.
Compliance to isolation inevitably starts to fall away over time. Such measures must begin right before the virus peaks.
This is nothing to do with supporting Boris, or the economy, or being pro or anti Tory, this is literally about critical timing advised by the scientists who are clearly apolitical. Listen to reason, they know better.
The bloke who worked for Glaxo? He's a professor?No we're not - again, I refer you to Professor Vallance - chief science advisor to the government, and pretty much the architect of the path we're following in the UK, who points out that the most stringent methods of community isolation must only come at the right time, or they won't be effective.
Compliance to isolation inevitably starts to fall away over time. Such measures must begin right before the virus peaks.
This is nothing to do with supporting Boris, or the economy, or being pro or anti Tory, this is literally about critical timing advised by the scientists who are clearly apolitical. Listen to reason, they know better.
Does anyone even get in to their country? I don't think so. I thought it wasn't allowed.
Does the test include needles because I could see him being squeamish, or then again he is infected and we'll start seeing the panicking side of him.
He probably pissed the doctor off.A guy I know was in hospital for a few days in February and got tested for the COVID-19 twice.
He claims it involves a rectal swab, which would probably be something Trump would be massively uncomfortable with.
Make the isolation period longer if needed.
Loneliness for a bit longer isn't going to kill anybody.
The only reason it's not happening now is for economic reasons.
He probably pissed the doctor off.
My partner's mum just had her mouth swabbed.
But if they isolated now wouldn’t that prevent a peak and if they do wait for it to peak, people are still going to get bored which could cause a double peak.this is easily written but in reality not accurate. loneliness does kill people. people can only sustain isolation for so long. it's all about timing, and we are nowhere near the peak of this epidemic.
It's not really Boris' plan though. It's Professor Vallance at the wheel, and I trust him. The virus has not yet started to peak here, if we start shutting down the country now, we could do more harm than good. Any drastic measures need to be at the right time.
Watch from about 34 minutes -
This guy speaks sense. I'm not sure I trust Boris either, but the two scientists speaking on behalf of the government - I buy them absolutely.
True. U.K needs some kind of proper leader to emerge about now.
Someone with influence who turns the pressure up on this ridiculously decadent Downing Street debacle.
We're being guided through a fecking pandemic by the Bullingdon Club - think about that.
| Country, Other | Total Cases | Active Cases | Tot Cases/ 1M pop |
|---|---|---|---|
| Italy | 15,113 | 12,839 | 250.0 |
| S. Korea | 7,869 | 7,470 | 153.5 |
| Norway | 800 | 798 | 147.6 |
| Iran | 10,075 | 6,370 | 120.0 |
| Denmark | 674 | 673 | 116.4 |
| Bahrain | 197 | 162 | 115.8 |
| Switzerland | 868 | 857 | 100.3 |
| Qatar | 262 | 262 | 90.9 |
| Sweden | 687 | 685 | 68.0 |
| Spain | 3,146 | 2,871 | 67.3 |
| China | 80,796 | 14,791 | 56.1 |
| Slovenia | 96 | 96 | 46.2 |
| France | 2,876 | 2,803 | 44.1 |
| Austria | 361 | 356 | 40.1 |
| Netherlands | 614 | 607 | 35.8 |
| Belgium | 399 | 395 | 34.4 |
| Germany | 2,745 | 2,714 | 32.8 |
| Singapore | 187 | 91 | 32.0 |
| Estonia | 27 | 27 | 20.4 |
| Finland | 109 | 108 | 19.7 |
| Kuwait | 80 | 75 | 18.7 |
| Hong Kong | 130 | 50 | 17.3 |
| Ireland | 70 | 69 | 14.2 |
| Israel | 109 | 105 | 12.6 |
| Greece | 117 | 116 | 11.2 |
| Czechia | 113 | 113 | 10.6 |
| Lebanon | 68 | 64 | 10.0 |
| UK | 590 | 562 | 8.7 |
Who the feck is this?
Yeah we're doomed.The grauniad have an article up with 4 different expert perspectives on the UK course of action ranging from positive to negative, so maybe we can dispense with the "all" or "most" experts agree with Boris bollocks. It seems there is a range of opinion, a weighing up of pros and cons of the severity of restrictions and a timing issue.
We're in it now so I guess we've just got to hope those in charge have our best interests at heart and have sound judgement.
Oh feck.
Mike Pence Embarrassingly Stares As Trump Tries To Explain Sickness
Just put him out of his misery .
Do you have the same thoughts about Germany? So far they've done the same thing and Merkel told the country most of them will get it.
I can't imagine the hysteria and glowing praise heaped on France if they had for example 500 cases with 8 deaths and England had 2500 cases with 65 deaths. People love waxing lyrical about France's healthcare spending.
UK is very low still on cases and deaths per million and the country which is advised by experts will make moves when we hit the rates others have done probably, and those others are not shining examples of anything yet. Follow Spain or France's timeline, Spain still added 500-700 cases per day.
You have way too many posts simply lambasting the government.
Country,
OtherTotal
CasesActive
CasesTot Cases/
1M popItaly 15,113 12,839 250.0 S. Korea 7,869 7,470 153.5 Norway 800 798 147.6 Iran 10,075 6,370 120.0 Denmark 674 673 116.4 Bahrain 197 162 115.8 Switzerland 868 857 100.3 Qatar 262 262 90.9 Sweden 687 685 68.0 Spain 3,146 2,871 67.3 China 80,796 14,791 56.1 Slovenia 96 96 46.2 France 2,876 2,803 44.1 Austria 361 356 40.1 Netherlands 614 607 35.8 Belgium 399 395 34.4 Germany 2,745 2,714 32.8 Singapore 187 91 32.0 Estonia 27 27 20.4 Finland 109 108 19.7 Kuwait 80 75 18.7 Hong Kong 130 50 17.3 Ireland 70 69 14.2 Israel 109 105 12.6 Greece 117 116 11.2 Czechia 113 113 10.6 Lebanon 68 64 10.0 UK 590 562 8.7
I'm just sceptical about someone touting the below credentials and everyone posting random tweets like they are revealing new facts.Dunno but she makes a good point. Get it right and you could cop criticism for overeating.
"We shut the world down and it wasn't that bad"
And we all know that to politician that the only worse thing to people doing is them getting criticised.
